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BT Sport scores own goal with £897m Champions League footie rights deal
BT massively padded out its investment in the telecom giant's new Sports TV channel on Saturday after it won the rights to show all UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League football matches for three seasons from 2015/16. It has splurged £900m on the TV rights, adding to the £738m it already sunk into 38 live Premier …
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Monday 11th November 2013 15:43 GMT mrfill
Blame Sky then - they were the ones that started all this pay pay pay for TV, so they get subscriptions AND have adverts to grab even more.
BTSport is not mandatory on the Sky platform. If you don't want to pay BT, don't.
Just keep supporting the utterly pure and respectable Murdoch organisation, you know, the one that paid £336m corporation tax on its £6.4bn income....
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Monday 11th November 2013 16:33 GMT Arachnoid
Why do some people
Think they should view sport for free when you need to purchase a ticket to watch it in person?
As for BTs regular invitation to have a "free box" with not much more than paid content on it for "only" £5/month Im not interested, nor am I interested in renewing my 12 month contract just to get "free" sports channels.
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Monday 11th November 2013 16:34 GMT spegru
To be Fair
Line rental and broadband access goes to Openreach, whereas this is BT retail.
(that's also the reason you get two boxes with BT Infinity)
Some might be hard pressed to tell the difference of course, esp as Mr Patterson is CEO of both!
Brings forward the day of a complete split between the two methinks
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Monday 11th November 2013 18:04 GMT Salts
Re: To be Fair
Good points, I think you are correct with a complete split prediction.
BT has always wanted to be a Broadcaster, seem to remember it was Maggie Thatcher that banned BT from broadcasting to allow the cable companies to recover their investment in laying cable, that worked well.
As noted by others almost 10% cut off the value of Sky stock today :-)
BT will also broadcast some of the games free, which is more than Sky ever does, Sky have needed some competition for sometime, lets hope BT can do it, I was a happy customer of BT with BT Vision though sports is of little interest to me it is a massive win for BT, this is how Sky got such a hold on pay tv by bidding high for the premier league or was it First division football rights.
I personally would have preferred if they had invested 1.5 billion into production of some decent content, that would mean drama, comedy and TV like we used to have, rather than line the pockets of over paid footballers. But compared to football fans I am very much in the minority.
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Monday 11th November 2013 18:33 GMT chrspy
Re: BBC
God help us if that day ever comes. The quality of TV has nosedived since the advent of Sky with the BBC having to go downmarket as well to keep up it's ratings (imagine the hoo-ha over the licence fee if the BBC was not still regularly topping the ratings). If the BBC were to go then 24/7/365 X-factor/Big Brother/Get me out of here, etc ..............
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Tuesday 12th November 2013 01:40 GMT King Jack
Re: BBC
The BBC does not need ratings. It gets it's money from the licence fee. It is not nor has it ever been in competition with anyone. The BBC could show paint drying and you would still be forced to pay them. The BBC goes down market to save money on programming to pay the directors millions in bonuses and helicopter rides.
They love it when plebs defend them as if they are the holders of quality standards. TV has gone the way it is because the market allows it. If people hated crap tv they wouldn't subscribe to it.
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Monday 11th November 2013 17:37 GMT Mike Smith
A little more serious than it might appear
Surprised the Reg hasn't picked up on this - frittering money away like this could have serious ramifications for us all.
Y'see, just like the digital TV failures of a few years ago, BT could collapse if they insist on pissing money up against the wall like this without seeing a decent return on investment. Before you all say that the government won't let that happen because BT's responsible for National Critical Infrastructure, just remember this - the infrastructure in question is confined to the PSTN, several dedicated networks that link various government and private NCI sites and the 999 service. The great unwashed like us can whistle if we think we'd be allowed near any of that.
If it did happen, the government would bail out BT, but only to ensure that the NCI they're responsible for is protected. Streaming media, content-free content, overpriced footy matches and all the rest of it are not classed as NCI and they could vanish overnight. So too could home broadband connections - apart from some essential exceptions, they're not classed as NCI either. We'd be back in an instant to the days of 56K dial-up connections. If you've still got that old Pace Linnet in the attic, you might want to hang on to it.
I used to work for BT, so I do (for once) know what I'm talking about.
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Monday 11th November 2013 21:42 GMT Mike Smith
Re: A little more serious than it might appear
Indeed. I think my reaction to the disappearance of football would be somewhere between 'meh' and 'wha'evvah'.
But the loss of most of the UK's home broadband connections is a different matter, because conceivably that's what could happen if BT went bust - and it would take time for the remaining telcos to cherry-pick what they wanted. And you can bet the remains of BT would do their damndest to lose the Universal Service Obligation, so tough titty if you live out in the sticks and want a phone line.
All joking apart, there is a risk of this happening - the bulk of the UK's broadband connections could be at risk of going tits-up just because some cretins though it made sense to blow hundreds of millions on the right to show groups of men kicking a ball about.
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Monday 11th November 2013 18:37 GMT chrspy
Why does the Reg seem always to be in favour of Sky? Anyone who starts breaking the Sky broadcasting monopoly is good for me. Murdoch used his ill-gotten gains from moving The Sun to Wapping to fund Sky for years. Now someone is coming along who can give them a run for their money, unlike the previous attempts which have lacked the background structure .......
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Monday 11th November 2013 19:33 GMT Anonymous Coward
I hear ya, but
I'm not a big fan of the Murdoch monopoly BUT... the constant federation of sports rights is in no way beneficial for the consumer.
If someone happens to be a big football fan they now have to buy a service from Sky, BT, ESPN possibly just to watch their team play.
Surely it would make more sense just to sell job lot to one vendor every year, at least then we'd have time to switch if needs be.
The only people who benefit from the 'competition' are they rights holders as they get silly auctions where idiots from BT burn money on content formerly the paid for by adverts. (in the champions league bit)
Last time I was in the US ESPN seemed to have mountains of channels with each one having a particular sport on, so presumably you could subscribe to certain sports or sport bundles.
With these kind of auctions I can only see the price to the end consumer going up in the long run as the costs have to be recovered so the net result (pardon the pun) will be sports viewing gets more expensive in the long run regardless of the model.
grrr
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Monday 11th November 2013 20:30 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Simple answer...
I guess this has to be viewed as an attempt to shore up their broadband customers rather than making the money back through subscriptions as that would be impossible, so if BT is targeting 5% growth in subscriptions that may cover a good proportion of the cost. Its funny how after 30 odd years of deregulation people now associate competition with price rises as so often all we've done is move from a benevolent monopoly to a malevolent one.
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Monday 11th November 2013 20:51 GMT CCCP
The rights market is broken...
Sorry, no cheers here. But this deal just illustrates how screwed the international rights market is.
From abroad, this now looks properly crazy. Like insane. Weird on a stick-like.
I predict that over time we will see a more individual subscription model, as someone mentioned the US works already. By over time I mean decades btw.
Spotify for TV anyone?
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