Microsoft introduces warning on child abuse image searches Microsoft is warning Brits who use its Bing search engine to hunt down child abuse content that they are attempting to view illegal material online. The company debuted the pop-up message on Bing in the UK following pressure from the Prime Minister David Cameron, who has been pressing internet firms to do more to help prevent …
I had to look that up. And got the following:
PTHC Percutaneous Transhepatic Cholangiography
PTHC Peterborough Town Hockey Club (UK)
PTHC Personal Touch Home Care, Inc.
PTHC Pre-Teen Hard Core (illegal child pornography)
PTHC Peripheral Thyroid Hormone Conversion
PTHC Peters Township Hockey Club (Pennsylvania)
PTHC Palm Trademark Holding Company
PTHC pigmented terminal hair cysts
PTHC Panning the Thames for Humble Contributions (Birchgrove Group)
PTHC Pressure, Temperature, and Humidity Control
PTHC Professional Tree Health Care, LLC (Bradley, WV)
...then I had to look the first one up, because I couldn't even guess at what the fuck that meant.
Wikipedia:
Percutaneous transhepatic cholangiography (PTHC or PTC) or percutaneous hepatic cholangiogram is a radiologic technique used to visualize the anatomy of the biliary tract. A contrast medium is injected into a bile duct in the liver, after which X-rays are taken. It allows access to the biliary tree in cases where endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography (ERCP) has been unsuccessful. Initially reported in 1937, the procedure became popular in 1952.[1][2]
Because the reason paedos access it is that they didn't already know this right? Thankfully the government stepped in quickly using the same technical know-how and understanding which they used to stop online cookies tracking our every movement - yey for pop-ups, the criminals must be shitting themselves.
If I saw a bike chained up with such a sign, I might find it very difficult to resist the temptation to nick the sign just for the ironic value.
Really though, we should pressure our MPs to make sure that every bomb comes with a health warning label on it so that those who would use it understand the consequences....
I saw a police one like that. All I was thinking is I am fairly sure something could get through that lock. (Angle Grinder / Thermite / pneumatic drill bet there is a chemical that will as well).
I have no interest in stealing bikes but especially when it is the Police who many people trust I don't like them spreading disinformation which they do all the time.
"If I saw a bike chained up with such a sign, I might find it very difficult to resist the temptation to nick the sign just for the ironic value."
Back in my misspent youth, I was walking home from a friend's house when I noticed that someone had put a chair out by the road, accompanied by a sign saying, "FREE".
I took the sign and left the chair.
My inner-vandal has also long wanted to go around finding those road-side places that sell vegetables, tacking on 'RE' to the beginning of the 'PRODUCE' signs.
It does rather depend on how "CHILD PORN" is defined.
FYI, in the UK, even though it's legal for someone to have sex between the ages of 16 and 18, "sexual" images of someone between those ages could get you locked up unless you can demonstrate that you are in "an enduring relationship" with the person involved.
Similarly, images of children in swimming costumes etc, could be classed as child porn depending on the "context" in which they are stored. That's a nicely nebulous term because it's not clear if that's "in the same folder as other porn" or "in a folder that's held with several others in a general classification 'porn'" or "in a folder as a sub-set of the folder 'images' which also contains a folder called 'porn'" or even "on the same hard drive as other porn.
And, of course, there's cases such as the one of Julia Sommerville who was arrested for taking "child pornography" photos because her partner had taken pictures of her and her kid in the bath together and then got them developed in Boots.
(I think those are the right details of that case, but I don't dare search for the relevant terms in case it tells me I'm engaged in an illegal search...!)
Blocking paedo searches is ridiculous. These people will find other ways to obtain what they are after and most likely in a way which makes it harder to detect, investigate and prosecute.
It would be far more sensible to let them search away and the results they clicked on. Then when some threshold of confidence is reached that they are engaging in illegal activity, notify the police and assist them in the investigation that follows. In other words let the creeps hang themselves with their own searches. They'll be caught a lot more quickly that way.
"It would be far more sensible to let them search away and the results they clicked on."
Sorry, but I don't agree with you because this would require that all our searches are not merely monitored, but all the websites we visit tracked *and* then all our activities recorded *just in case* someone has buried a secret cache of kiddie porn in a folder on the site "Humorous Anecdotes of the Great Accountants".
"Sorry, but I don't agree with you because this would require that all our searches are not merely monitored, but all the websites we visit tracked *and* then all our activities recorded *just in case* someone has buried a secret cache of kiddie porn in a folder on the site "Humorous Anecdotes of the Great Accountants"."
Google and Bing already monitor your searches (in order to improve search results, sell advertising). That's what I'm referring to. They install also click handlers so when you click on a result they know which result you chose. Therefore, put a trigger on the kiddy porn search terms,. log the IP, install a tracking cookie and log the links they click. If the trigger fires more than some quality threshold and the search is determined to yield child pornography inform the local plod.
Throwing up a message telling the person how naughty they are just motivates them to find other, less easy to detect ways of obtaining the material. The consequence is they'll do it for longer before getting caught, assuming they ever are and it will cost the police and the courts more money to secure a prosecution and conviction.
> Do the government really think your average paedo is searching Bing for kiddyfiddlers.com??
Yes. John Carr, the Govt adviser has said on several BBC interviews since Microsoft's announcement that they know perfectly well the clever ones can get round this, the idea is to deter "newbies" from ever getting involved.
We give the punters one person one vote. There is no need to prove that you are capable of selecting the politicians that have their head screwed on right.
Therefor the politicians that get elected are those that provide policies which the Great Unwashed think sound right, or desirable with no valid reason for thinking the way that they do. The politicians who say stuff that is scientifically validated or has the best outcomes do not get votes.
Therefore, in order to get votes, politicians ignore the scientists and experts. They just do what sounds good to the voters.
Net result: crap laws, countries going broke because the voters don't want the merry-go-round spending to stop and funding for stupid social programs which have public appeal, but the scientists tell us are pointless.
We were talking about this in work and someone came up with a good point:
What if an abused child searches online for help? Something along the lines of "my daddy..... " (fill in the blanks yourself) would this trigger the pop-up? Will abused kids become too scared to try to find help online if they think their search will be flagged up?
Cocky Cameron again: "I can tell you we’re already looking at legislative options so that we can force action in this area". Bloke needs to be taken to one side and the net explained to him in words of half a syllable or less. He really does think he's on a roll, doesn't he? Talk about grandstanding, as our "friends" (I use the term loosely) across the pond have it.
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