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A data scientist says he has settled one of the most pressing conundra of the digital age. He has discovered the difference between geeks and nerds. Burr Settles, software chap at crowdsourced translation platform Duolingo, rooted through millions of tweets to find the sorts of words that were used at the same time as either …

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  1. WibbleMe

    A Geek is someone that knows everything about a subject

    A Nerd is someone that has no social skills

  2. THECADMAN
    Terminator

    So, where do's that leave the Boffins and egg heads ... ?

    and more importantly, how do you begin to categorize the Psycho's at DARPA

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      .. and what about smart arses? how do you define them?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      So, where do's that leave the Boffins and egg heads

      I may have posted this before, in which case sorry, but the compliment I most value is the one once paid to me by a Royal Tank Regiment sergeant in the early 80s. I had turned up for a field trial with boots and a boiler suit.

      "You know, Sir," he said, "you're quite sensible for a boffin".

    3. Kubla Cant
      Headmaster

      The Boffins [sic] and egg heads possibly know how to spell "does", and that there is no apostrophe in the plural of "Psycho".

    4. Richard 81

      Both are just names for scientists.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Mis-read the headline first as "What's the difference between Greeks and Nerds" and was expecting something to do with goats...

  4. Steve Crook

    Who cares?

    Geeks don't care about the difference between Geeks and Nerds, Nerds do.

    Am I the only one that looks at the Cafe Nero sign and reads Cafe Nerd?

  5. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge
    Happy

    Is it just me

    Or are these researchers just begging for an Ig Nobel Prize?

  6. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge
    Coat

    And remember

    Beware of Geeks bearing gifts

    Sorry, couldn't resist

  7. Michael C.

    It's all geek to me.

  8. Mage Silver badge
    Boffin

    Distinction

    Beware Geeks bringing gifts*.

    But don't worry about Nerds.

    (*Remember the "free" USB Mouse exploit?)

  9. ShadowTD

    Very simple

    I've always said the difference is easy to define - geeks get laid (albeit with other geeks). Nerds are too socially awkward.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Very simple

      Sorry, no. I have observed over my years in the business how the sex drive can overcome social awkwardness. You may need to investigate the properties of, inter alia, ethanol and Star Trek conventions. Especially in combination.

  10. OzBob
    FAIL

    And what do you call yourself

    when you fall into both definitions and don't want to be either? I'm going with "arsehole".

  11. RISC OS

    Nerds are american...

    ...geeks are world wide

  12. C 18
    Flame

    In my not so humble opinion

    Both monikers were applied in a derogatory sense originally to those who were seen as 'more interested in the blinkenflashen lightzen'.

    Then those who were named such decided to embrace the terms in the vain hope that they could become 'cool' just as the other minorities embraced their derogatory terms in the not-so-vain hope to do likewise (gay, 'nigga' &c).

    Unfortunately, this didn't really work, but that's not because geeks and nerds are not cool. It's because we know something they don't, and we're comfortable about that while they are not.

    Beware of geeks bearing gifts... The geek will inherit the earth...

    We did create the internet, we're keeping it up and running, we're chasing the dishonesty in the banking system, we're cleaning up all the crap.

    We will make the world a better place...call us whatever the fuck you like, if you're not one of us we don't give a fuck (maybe that's our 'social ineptitude' but then if bringing the world to financial ruin and all the other crap the non-geek and non-nerd types are doing, I'll take social awkwardness over that any day.)

  13. NogginTheNog
    WTF?

    WTF is...

    "Etsy"??

    1. Anonymous Coward 15

      Re: WTF is...

      Like eBay for supposedly handmade crafts, but actually mostly resellers. For the horror stories see Regretsy.

      1. Kubla Cant

        Re: WTF is...

        I too was about to ask "WTF is Etsy?".

        Now that I know, I can't help wondering where this guy got his data from, given that "Etsy" occurred frequently enough to be significant. I work in an environment populated entirely by people who are geeks or nerds or both, and I see no evidence of a taste for handmade crafts.

        Incidentally, I though a geek was a fairground performer who bites the heads off chickens, though I've never seen a satisfactory explanation of why anyone would pay to see this done.

    2. C 18
      Linux

      Re: WTF is...

      I have been known to refer to the ubiquitous '/etc' directory this way, but I'm not convinced this was the referent in this article...

  14. The Vociferous Time Waster

    The difference...

    At night a geek dreams about having sex in space, a dork dreams about having sex and a nerd is recompiling some tweaks into the kernel of his home made compute cluster.

    1. cortland
      Pint

      Re: The difference...

      "Say the magic word and the duck will come down..." *

      -- Marx

      Here in Michigan we have a self-styled nerd for a governor -- and a computer repair business calling itself The Geek Squad. Possibly better than the other way around.

      Imagine a bunch of earnest young men fixing computers, biting the heads off live chickens for lunch. Or a governor who does. Sets bounds on things, doesn't it?

      Beer -- because there's no tea. *And no Hundred Dollars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Bet_Your_Life

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    geeks are cool

    nerds are not

    it is, as they say, the Age of the Geek, afterall. it's not, and has never been, the age of the nerd.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I like the venn diagram

    The venn diagram seems good enough to me (I don't care if people call me a Geek or Nerd - I take them both as compliments).

    I would change one thing though, and that is to relabel the bit of 'obsession' that does not intersect with other areas as 'fanbois'. To me a fanboy is somebody who has all the obsession but has lost rationality and a sense of logic - therefore they sit outside of the 'intelligence' sphere. As they also love showing off their 'toys' they are normally not socially inept either.

  17. admiraljkb
    Pint

    I always thought the biggest difference was...

    Geek = Intelligent, and all that, and really techno oriented. Probably watches Star Trek and like SciFi.

    Nerd = Geek + "not only goes to Comicon, but goes dressed as their favourite Klingon." (for extra bonus points, the Klingon in question has to be the most obscure possible, and they'd be happy to explain it at length the significance of "ToR", credited as "Klingon #5" played by ..., who was at the back of scene 5, episode 12, on stardate 749024)

    I'm mostly in the Geek category, but I do have Nerdy friends. :) Re-reading the above, I think it could be shortened to:

    Nerd = Geek with Aspergers...

  18. sisk

    Wrong premise

    He started out with the wrong definition for nerd. Nerd, according to everyone I've ever heard from on the subject who has an opinion worth noting (in other words, people who realize it's not an insult to be hurled at people smarter than them) is simply a very smart person with wide ranging knowledge. His definition of geek is spot on, but nerds aren't subject specific.

  19. Mr Spock

    This guy is neither a nerd nor a geek.

    He's just a hipster who wants some friends.

  20. mrfisma

    Nerd definition

    A nerd sees something working in practice and wonders if it will work in principle.

  21. The last doughnut
    Thumb Down

    I don't often bother with comments these days

    Quote "Generally, the data seem to affirm my thinking."

    If you had put this at the beginning of the article you would have saved me two minutes of pointless reading.

  22. AB4CT

    Geeks - Nerds -- We've got that settled - How about BOFFINS???

    So, now we have Geeks & Nerds sorted. How about Boffins??? In the US, we don't use the term boffins, but refer to scientists or engineers or mathematicians or any number of really smart guys and gals. Then what is a boffin and what is a scientist or engineer or mathematician or any number of really smart guys and gals"?

    #I don't claim to be either#

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