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Cops have arrested two men following a failed “smash and grab” robbery at Apple’s flagship store on Regent Street, London. Detectives want to hear from anyone who may have witnessed the incident, which took place at 1am on Tuesday morning. Officers told The Register that up to eight people may have been involved in the …

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          1. Rampant Spaniel

            Re: continuously variable gearbox on scooters

            Not that they are the final arbiter of anything really but the US DOT differentiates between scooters and motorcycles based on their controls, i.e. hand & foot brake = motorcycle, both hand controlled brakes = scooter.

            The lines are very very thin these days, honda's nc 700 series have DCT (not cvt) as does their larger 1300 (fj?), you can also buy 600+ cc 'maxiscooters' with rumours of liter scoots on the way. You can also get maxiscoots with quasi semi automatic gearboxes but these are basically fancy cvt's which lock the ratio.

            Does riding a scooter make you not a 'biker'. I'm so past caring, apparently it does matter to some folks. I have a 'maxiscoot' and a ds and have ridden a motley assembly of various bikes over the years. I got the scoot because it was 45% off list with no out the door costs as the garage was closing. Went to buy a cbr and it had sold already, the guy offered a test on the scoot and told me to thrash it. Hard to argue when it will get either wheel in the air and loves humped back bridges and will lean like crazy. It's no superbike but it is fully capable of inducing ear to ear grins which is all that matters. I always used to laugh at the whole better to ride a slow bike fast mantra, having experienced 'third world roads' and the most random of road hazards (hey last night we had a storm and nature created an impromptu river on this blind bend leaving all sorts of crap on the surface, or palm branches randomly in the road, or dead deer and worst of all those perverts in lycra who insist on running in the road) I am quite happy keeping it under 120mph, plus I don't miss the fuel consumption at 170+.

            I guess island life made me soft lol, most of the time there isn't any friction between anyone on two wheels no matter what the type of vehicle (especially as many folks have more than one type), you are just all happy no one got killed by a drunk in a truck. I am constantly amazed how the guys with ape hangers manage to stay alive on some of our twistier fast road.

            1. Rampant Spaniel

              Re: continuously variable gearbox on scooters

              just checked, it's the honda vfr1200 with dct :)

    1. Andrew Newstead

      Re: Correction

      Glad someone got in with this observation.

    2. Huw D
      Pint

      Correction Re: Correction

      All bikers ride motorcycles. However, not everyone who rides a motorcycle is a biker either.

      Now enough of this, I'm off to the Farmyard Party.

      1. Jason Bloomberg Silver badge

        Re: Correction Correction Re: Huw D

        All bikers ride motorcycles.

        In my experience bikers ride in the back of transits and only put their helmets on when they arrive in the pub car park.

        Okay, not all bikers, and I don't begrudge them doing that. It is however quite amusing to see and I'm sure I'm not the only one who has seen it.

        1. Huw D
          Devil

          Re: Correction Correction Huw D

          No,

          Bikers live and breathe bikes.

          Motorcyclists have bikes, but aren't necessarily bikers.

          Blokes who turn up in cars and then put their full leathers/helmets on are collectively known as tossers.

    3. Velv
      Headmaster

      Re: Correction

      Pedantry alert.

      If it's got two wheels and an motor, it's a motorcycle. That includes mopeds, scooters, and motorised bicycles.

      If you're going to associate the term "biker" with "motorcycle" then all riders of motorcycles are bikers.

      But I absolutely understand your original sentiment! :)

      1. Hodders

        Re: Correction

        Nope.

        Just because it has two wheels and a motor, it doesn't qualify as a motorcycle - otherwise cement mixers would qualify. At best they can be called a motorised vehicle (cement mixers apart)

        A moped or a scooter is NOT a motorcycle - that's why they are CALLED mopeds and scooters...

        A Motorcycle will always elicit a positive emotional response from a Biker - that, if anything, is why Bikers ride motorcycles..

        And - yes, Mopeds and scooters ( and even cement mixers) will elicit an emotional response - but not in a good way

        1. gazthejourno (Written by Reg staff)

          Re: Re: Correction

          Someone NEEDS to build a driveable cement mixer. Possibly one for El Reg's SPB?

          1. Brenda McViking
            Thumb Up

            Re: Correction

            Yes. Then to prove it is properly robust, enter it into the Mongol rally.

          2. Blofeld's Cat
            Thumb Up

            Re: Correction

            "Someone NEEDS to build a driveable cement mixer. Possibly one for El Reg's SPB?"

            How about this one.

        2. Elmer Phud

          Re: Correction

          It's gonna go all Trikes v's Sidecar rigs next.

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          2. Huw D

            Re: Correction

            Depends.

            Are we talking bike based trikes or car based trikes? :D

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Correction

          I know a priest who rides a scooter. Apparantly all (or a large proportion of) undertakers ride motorbikes and they don't really have anything to do with priests but they are ok with him because they think he is a biker so how does that work ?

          Only the 1%er bikers have an opinion worth caring about anyway.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Correction

        Ultra-pedantry alert

        According to the classification on the tax disc of my Daytona 955i (a far cry from a pedal cycle), it is a bicycle... Motorised or otherwise, it is the number of wheels and approval for use on public roadways that defines its classification...

      3. JulianB
        Headmaster

        Re: Correction

        Further pedantry alert:

        "a motor" not "an motor"

    4. Don Jefe

      Re: Correction

      Here in the States the bikers do call their bikes scooters, in a form of Hipsteresque Irony. Thought maybe the trend had spread over there.

    5. Elmer Phud

      Re: Correction

      "Can I just point out that people who ride scooters are not "Bikers" "

      I would assume that the AXE-WAVING BIKER GANG is in proper Sun/Mail full caps which would indicate a knowledge of the difference between a fat-arsed commuter device and a machine that can rip yer face off when operated correctly.

      But I do agree that the standard press 'motorcyclist' grates a lot (and I don't even ride one).

    6. Stevie

      Re: Correction

      "Can I just point out that people who ride scooters are not "Bikers""

      Pft. Hacker/Cracker.

    7. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re: Correction

      Can I just point out that people who ride scooters are not "Bikers"

      That's the gag.

      C.

    8. Fink-Nottle
      Paris Hilton

      Re: Correction

      Can I just point out that people who ride scooters are not "Bikers"

      Bikers are the kind of people who look like Lemmy from Motörhead and, as far as I'm concerned, when you look that scary, you can ride any damn form of transport you please - no questions asked.

      /paris, coz she'll ride anything too

  1. Jack Project

    Afterwards the burglars used Apple maps to help with their escape and were never seen again.

  2. frank ly

    "...the fashionable North London borough of Islington"

    When I commuted to/from the Angel, many years ago, Islington was a dirty, seedy area. What happened?

    1. Number6

      Re: "...the fashionable North London borough of Islington"

      Tony Blair happened. Any criminal with self respect went somewhere else.

    2. Shagbag

      What happened?

      Nothing. It's still a dump although some Londoners believe it's a fashionable dump.

      It's the sort of place where you can walk down a nice street with (relatively) expensive property only to turn the corner and you're back to a shit-hole.

  3. Kay Burley ate my hamster
    Stop

    As they don't pay their taxes...

    Should the Met send them a bill?

    1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
      Holmes

      Re: As they don't pay their taxes...

      I'm sure Apple pay their business rates for the shop. AFAIK, that is what goes to pay for the met Police.

      Now, if they don't pay their business rates then the more they are robbed the better.

      The rates for that shop on Regent St will be pretty high so they might well be paying a lot of money to Westminster City Council and subsequently Boris (the Spider)

  4. xyz Silver badge
    Joke

    Ha-ha...I didn't realise I was looking at a broken window

    I thought it was a picture of that new snazzy iOS interface...fnar, fnar

  5. mtw
    Flame

    Oh come on

    ... presumably if they'd be in MkII escorts you would have headlined the piece "nostalgic rally gang"? No? Oh well, I rest my case.

  6. Elmer Phud
    Trollface

    Is it a Biker?

    There are, though, the users of the gleaming fully tarted up with fringes on Harleys that are seen on the odd occasion it won't rain out for the five mile commute.

    While I consider bikers to be folks from a rat bike to a near as damn it GP1 bike . . .

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    If...

    If you can't scramble helicopters without breaking eggs, stay out of the kitchen.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Bikers?

    Scooter/moped riders are definitely not bikers.

    However, more importantly, why the need to brandish them "BIKER GANG"?

    What's tomorrow's headline "CAR DRIVER COMMITS ROBBERY"?

    Us bikers/motorcyclists are normal people too. Our choice of transport does not relate to our criminal record. Just think about all the bikers that regularly do egg runs, santa runs etc getting gifts to needy and poorly children. How many convoys of cars do you see doing the same.

    It's about they changed the record and accepted bikes like the rest of Europe do.

  9. Stevie

    Bah!

    Pretty shoddy gang: one axe between all the members.

    When I were a lad the yoofs went properly tooled-up to a meeting of their club, whatever frame shape or wheel size their transport of choice displayed.

    Tsk.

    If they'd had real stones they'd have ram-raided the place in a flurry of two-stroke kamikaze glory.

    1. Danny Roberts 1
      Pint

      Re: Bah!

      ...in a flurry of two-stroke kamikaze glory.

      Excellent, have a beer :-)

    2. Santa from Exeter
      Happy

      Re: Bah!

      Shouldn't that be a fluury of 2 stroke Kawasaki glory?

      http://thekneeslider.com/kawasaki-kh750-2-stroke-triple-cafe-racer/

      My mate had one of these with a quick twist throttle and you could stand it on it's back wheel at 70! (not a cafe racer obviously)

  10. Zaphod_42

    What's this classed as then? (Ramsey sprint day at this years Isle of Man TT)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejpl08sZKKU

  11. DanceMan

    Re: Ramsey sprint day

    I'd love to see that mobility scoot on the sidewalk somewhere, to watch when the rider revs it.

    Fellow at work has a Honda scooter, the one with a raw frame, no bodywork, with the full Yoshimura treatment. He's a rigger. Think you would call him a biker.

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