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An intruder stole Apple kit worth over $60,000 from the Apple Store in Boulder, Colorado, but caused more financial damage by breaking the door, reports ABC News Denver. The custom-made glass door of the Apple Store on 29th Street in Boulder cost $100K. The Apple burglar - described by cops as a hooded man armed with three …

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Depends on if the insurance company would pay out.

Pay attention @loan - just because you have insurance it doesn't mean they will pay out. Sometimes you (the business) just have to accept the risk, which in this case is fitting a door made out of glass with no protection such as roller door or automated fricken lasers.

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Insured ...

... that's why the broken door is suddenly worth half the store installation cost.

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Only certain parts of the building will be insured, for instance the retailer I used to work for only insured the bricks & mortar, the shop windows where too expensive to insure.

Also, the insurer would only cover stock behind the salesfloor in locked areas, any stock on the salesfloor wasn't covered.

So, a break-in through the glass doors, and stock stolen from displays, and the insurer can sleep safe & sound knowing they won't have to pay out a bean...

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RE: Depends on if the insurance company would pay out.

The first obstacle to a payout would be a policy deductible, and any exclusions. Second, it may not necessarily include replacement coverage, but a standard payout clause.

Methinks Apple is going to have to bite this one.

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$64k of kit stolen - that's a lot of kit to carry. Somehow "a hooded man armed with three rocks" just doesn't quite cut it.

Even allowing for Apples inflated prices your talking 20 laptops minimum. Not exactly going to be spotted running down he street with that lot in your arms, are you!

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No, that's 2 top spec iMacs with 2.4Ghz dual cores and 4gb ram, right? They are quite light, so one in each pocket?

PS, yes, it was a poor joke, downvote at your whim. :D

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"$64k of kit stolen - that's a lot of kit to carry. Somehow "a hooded man armed with three rocks" just doesn't quite cut it."

Nah... it's just three of the new Macbooks.

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Humanity, I'm proud!

After millions of years of evolution, after thousands of years of technological development, its still the rock to which a man turns to when he needs to get the job done...

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OOooh shiny things!

[grabs rocks]

[smash!]

[sound of running]

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This could be a sport

Why can I now imagine people attacking Apple shopfronts with rocks on a regular basis. Bankrupt the company through replacing glass doors?

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@Bankrupt the company through replacing glass doors

Apple has over $100 billion in reserves, and about 363 stores worldwide as at January 2012 (apparently). If each door cost $100000 to replace, and you smashed the doors of every store, every day of the year, and they were able to replace them every day too, and they didn't notice this rather obvious pattern of misfortune, and didn't post a few security guards to stop it, it would still take 7.5 years to bankrupt the company. That doesn't take into account additional cash they raise through sales over those 7.5 years.

That is how much money they have.

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Yup!

The door is definately the most worthwhile/valuable item in any Apple store. It actaully has some use. It's certainly not the baubles inside.

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$100k...

Remember it is the broken door they they have to replace.

Broken windows would have cost less.

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Re: $100k...

"Remember it is the broken door they they have to replace.

Broken windows would have cost less."

Yeah: Those hinges and a push-plate easily cost the other $95,000.

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Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...

All the andrioid fanbois and other virgins stiing in their mothers basement sitting in their underware. Gods sake

whatever happened to proper discussions in this place? :(

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Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...

You're grasp of literacy atrocious is.

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Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...

... and that's why PC pro discussion threads are so boring. There are plenty of proper discussions here, just not attached to articles like this --- why would there be? There is really nothing to discuss here apart from to take pot shots at Apple and make amusing comments about cavemen and rocks. It's entirely up to you whether to read any given story and, even if you do, whether you proceed to the comments.

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Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now... @LPF

If I could understand a word of the drivel you wrote in that comment I'd have a proper discussion with you.

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Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now... @LPF

Anyone else feeling the same drop in the signal-to-noise ratio from that post itself?

Ironically, moderation would be exactly what would be required to stop that user posting drivel like this post.

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Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...

When did El Reg ever have proper discussions?

I've been reading it pretty much since it started (certainly since they start accepting comments) and I can't recall any thread that was what I would consider a proper discussion.

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Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...

"Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...

All the andrioid fanbois and other virgins stiing in their mothers basement sitting in their underware. Gods sake

whatever happened to proper discussions in this place? :("

At least the spellcheck works on Android...

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Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...

"All the andrioid fanbois and other virgins stiing in their mothers basement sitting in their underware. Gods sake

whatever happened to proper discussions in this place? :("

No wonder they're virgins, if they're wearing crockery on their bits.

(I suspect that the "proper discussions" are taking place in Can Spell Corner, just FYI)

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Re: Its thread likes theses which is why pc pro, moderates all posters now...

Proper discussions? We shall have none of such heresy here!

(Paris, because, well, Ugandan discussions.)

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looks like it will have to cough up $100K for the replacements

They don't have insurance in America?

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Re: looks like it will have to cough up $100K for the replacements

If you have a few hundred stores, it's probably cheaper not to buy insurance. What you'd pay in premiums is probably higher than your total annual damage. It's not as if Apple don't have sufficient spare change on hand to cover the odd £100 broken door.

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It's 5k for the physical door material, and 95k for the 'image rights' license to make the Apple logo on the door, image rights owned by a subsiduary company in a low-tax jurisdiction and the cost of which can be deducted from taxable profits in the US.

Have I got that right?

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gaaahh

bean-counters said they needed to spend 100k on Windows and they said phuck no buy doors instead.

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The rocks were made of skullbustium. Lucky they didn't bring the whole building down. Also, cctv shows a huge green guy with torn clothes stomping away from the crime scene.

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So next time the headline will read "Apple store glass doors nicked in don't-smash and grab"

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Stupid, really.

A while back I lived just down the road from an audio place that had a glass front. On each panel, there was a sizable sticker that read:

"Bomb-proof, ram-raid-proof glass"

Seriously. It's like waving a red rag at a bull. Put a bunch of shiny targets clearly on display and of course someone's going to have a go. Normally at about the rate of once a month for said audio place (until it went under).

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Re: Stupid, really.

Like all things, the thing that matters is the weakest link in the chain.

Assume the glass *is* bomb-proof and ram-raid-proof. All that means is that it won't break if you try. But the frame WILL give away. Hell, you could unscrew the damn thing if it came to it. Or just push it through. The glass might be "ram-raid proof", but the brickwork holding it in? Unlikely to be. Hell, you can kick bricks out of a wall if you had enough time, let alone what you can achieve in seconds with a sledgehammer.

It's a comfort to know something is "ram-raid proof" when it's lying, intact, on top of your stock in front of an empty window frame, I'm sure.

You don't need to invite trouble, and if you do then you're an idiot, but trouble will find you if you're not careful. In an ideal world, you can walk down the street telling everyone how expensive your new phone is and it not matter. But in the real world, being "ram-raid proof" just makes me think "What have they got inside that needs protection from ram-raiding?" and "what other way would someone get in if they wanted to?".

Like all things, simple systems make it much easier. DO NOT put stock on display, even behind ram-raid proof glass. Keep it out of sight, lock it away, and don't give customers free reign on it (I would predict you lose more from in-store theft than you do ram-raids, even in the worst part of town). You can't make things impossible to get at but hopefully you can make it slow them down enough for police / yourself to arrive, or have a quick-response security company turn up. Keep cash out of the till and in a safe as much as possible.

Don't pretend you can stop a crime happening to you. Take appropriate action that, when it does happen, your losses are minimised. God knows what it costs to replace ram-raid proof glass and/or the surrounding brickwork but I imagine it isn't any cheaper than just using normal glass and locking stuff away.

You can't stop someone breaking into a car, or mugging you. You can't. It's impossible. Cars are tested for a "3-minute" or whatever test, that they can resist someone unfamiliar with the car for that amount of time when it's first sold. Within months, most cars are compromisable within seconds if someone was really interested in doing so. If you are mugged you can't STOP someone taking your things, all your things, no matter how big and strong and skilled you think you are. At worst, they just kill you and walk off with your gear.

But you can make sure that the car alarm goes off, that they need to break the steering lock, remove the locking device on the gearstick, defeat the immobiliser, or whatever to drive it away and that - in the end - there's nothing of value that they can easily remove before they attract sufficient attention for them to give in. You can make sure that what's in your wallet can be cancelled in a trice (or tracked), that your phone is useless without your PIN code, that your bank cards don't have their PIN's stuck to them, that you aren't carrying a fortune in cash for no reason, that your house keys aren't marked with your address, etc.

Then, it doesn't matter what happens. In fact, every time someone then breaks into a car or mugs someone and comes away with nothing, they are slightly less likely to have a successful outcome which encourages them to try again (given the risks involved). But you can't STOP it happening.

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Re: Stupid, really.

...and that's why you're not making a fortune selling phones and computers.

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@Lee

I was going to say something similar, if shorter. Why advertise the stuff when the shop is shut? Turn the lights off and fit reflective film, or perhaps leave them on and replace the kit with, say, bags of apples...

Temptation is 99% opportunity.

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Late thought - if the perps are nicked, will they be charged with scrumping?

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It depends...

...the sentence could be "Off with their Coxes, and put them in the care of Granny Smith"...

I think my need for my coat is probably greater than yours, James.

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Are the Apple doors supplied to their retail chains by Apple Ireland operating in Cayman Islands? If so that would explain the high costs.

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If that was me . . .

. . . I'd have left behind a single white glove with the Microsoft logo on it

<evil laugh />

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Re: If that was me . . .

...but then there would have to be an office chair in amongst the broken glass, not a rock.

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That should read $100k for half a door.

Only one of the doors wee broken, making it a $200k entry, which is not possible. Even more unlikely is that the local store manager/police would have any knowledge of the cost of the door, unless his brother did the install. If there is any truth to the $100K number, it is for the glass store front, not the door. Architect, former coder.

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$100k for a glass door? Presumably supplied by Apple Store Furnishings (Cayman Islands) Ltd, which coincidentally just happens to be a wholly owned subsidiary of Apple?

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Heh!

Only Apple could put glass doors on a shop full of desirable electrotat and think it would end well.

Someone should tell them to Google "Ram Raid" before they fork out for new ones.

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Re: Heh!

Ram Raid = the act of herding sheep illicitly

* I didn't realise that they had had another iLaunch

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Bartender !

be careful with that - it's my $5,000.00 Apple logo beer glass. It's so incredibily fragile, there are only eight undamaged glasses left in the world. Beer tastes so much better out of an Apple logo glass.

(Disclosure - I'm just kidding. Why are you looking at me like that ? No, it's not real. I made it up. Really ! Stay away, you Apple freaks ! Nooooooo!)

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