US President Barack Obama has used a “Fireside Hangout”, captured on YouTube, to label patent trolls as leeches who extort money from their victims. Asked about the potential for patent trolls to hamper innovation, Obama said his administration's attempts at patent reform “only went about half way to where we need to go” and …
Re: Or we could try to fix it
Not necessarily. Software patents because algorithms aren't necessarily specific enough to be covered by copyright. Consider the idea of "clean room engineering". This was the method Compaq used to bypass the copyright on the IBM BIOS because they basically came up with an alternative implementation of the BIOS without any inside input. Patents cover that angle by protecting the process in general. If the IBM BIOS had been patented, Compaq would've had no way to legally clone the BIOS, just saying.
Having said that, the length of software patents are not in line with software product lifecycles. Current patent terms were made for when product lifecycles were measured in years (usually around a decade or so) while software tends to cycle every year or so. If software patents are to be issued, then they need to be issued for a much shorter length of time to reflect the pace of change.
This man featured Tim Cook in the State of the Union speech
Is there a bigger patent troll? Or is he the good sort of patent troll, that is to say, a supported of the Democratic Party?
So Obama's going to get tough on those fuckers at the MPAA and RIAA, eh?
RE: So Obama's going to get tough on those fuckers at the MPAA and RIAA, eh?
NOT A CHANCE IN HELL!!!!
(Reason: "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks!")
A promise is a great thing.
It means you can say you're going to do something, without, you know, actually doing it.
Politicians appear to be really good at that.
"“I want to make sure they know how to actually produce stuff using computers, and not just consume stuff,” Obama said"
What has Obama produced except political BS?
Inventors do produce something, their inventions. And those who make things need those inventions but they do not want to pay those who often work for decades to produce the inventions.
Most young successful companies are quite belligerent towards inventors, and Google is well known for ripping off anyone that they think they can get away with doing so. In other words Google and other Coalition for Patent Fairness (& PIRACY) members are all thieves.
The legislation Obama signed actually promoted transfer of American ingenuity to other countries. It was written by invention thieves so that they could pretty much take others inventions to the same places they have been taking all the other jobs for the last few decades.
Patent Reform was really a bigger giveaway than the bailout. It gave transnational corporations most of the tools they wanted to socialize all American inventions because it allows those companies to bankrupt independent and small business inventors. When they talk about innovation what they mean is taking others inventions and including those inventions in their products. Shortly thereafter they thump their chests and declare themselves innovators.
What are developed country's prospects if all their inventions are commercialized in developing countries?
Is Obama really this stupid or has he been bought by the likes of Microsoft, IBM, GE, Apple, Cisco, Oracle and a bunch of other similar big business interests?
@ Ronald J Riley
Nice rant, shame about the comprehension fail...
The sentence you quote has nothing to do with Obama's view on patent trolls, it is talking about teaching programming in schools.
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Asked about the potential for patent trolls to hamper innovation, Obama said his administration's attempts at patent reform “only went about half way to where we need to go” and have not “captured all the problems”.
Some would tell you that his US administration …[if the buck does stop with the POTUS in the White House, and they be not just media puppets for the Unseen Hand and Crazily Minded, which is where the puck stops in that reality] attempts to patent reforms with wacky wild western applications that cause major problems and disruptive chaos in foreign reprogramming projects with industrial military complexity …. Fabless Alien Ventures. And that is something completely different and can be used to destroy innovation so that status quo powers remain somewhat in control
It is difficult to almost impossible though, not to class that and those, in their present configurations, as epic fails for a Renegade Renaissance partnership which pimped and pumped to the masses, Hope and Change you can believe in.
Obama also said he hopes to “ensure the internet stays open” so that entrepreneurs can enjoy low barriers to entry.
:-) Try to close doors and/or windows and openings and opportunities, which might be all classed as magic zeroday vulnerabilities to exploit internetworking, and see how far that mad beta gets you, whenever everything relies on the phishing that IT provides from that ethereal pool of universal knowledge for word and works of the future. Methinks, only a raving idiot, in dire straits need of due care and dutiful protection and stronger medication or sectioning would want to close that avenue down or restrict access to ITs goodies and gems of engaging wisdom in liberated and empowering thought.
A promise is a great thing. It means you can say you're going to do something, without, you know, actually doing it. Politicians appear to be really good at that. …. John Tserkezis Posted Monday 18th February 2013 03:34 GMT
Which is why no one heeds or needs their pontifications, nor votes them a working majority to squat and conspire in high offices they aspire to and why they need to covet dumb media and dodgy magnates to survive in the cesspit of their lies, John Tserkezis? You can be sure though that smarter intelligence services are rendering their current and past shenanigans, a hit show for presentation of the future in programs which show how human administrations really work in a time and space of remote virtual global command head quarter control.
* That's the New Real Virtual Deal you're avoiding confronting and/or acknowledging El Reg, although you be definitely not alone in that 0Mission. Grow a pair is a challenge in a resident quest to try and prove IT is not a Farce, in the face of IT demonstrating to All, the Virtual Reality Presenting to All, the True Surreal Nature of Fab Fabless Existence for Absolute Sovereign Power in Ultimate Control Systems.
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And, as difficult as it may be to believe, I Kid U Not, and this is for Real and a Live Operational Virtual Environment BetaTest of Human Intelligence and Intelligence Communities and Agencies/Spooky Stables for their Fitness to Lead and Exercise Progress.
Oh no, in the polarized atmosphere of U.S. politics, this means the patent trolls will now have the special protection of the Tea Party and other right-wing Republicans.
Opposing ridiculous software patents will be equated with pushing socialism, and any critics of the U.S. patent system will be asked to move to North Korea.
In as much that the question was put to him by limor fried of adafruit industries, engineering badass and all round awesome gal.
Re: slight ommission
I was wondering exactly why, on a Tech site, that Limor wasn't mentioned by name.
"label patent trolls as leeches who extort money" - so there goes a good chunk of Apples income
Older readers, with a good memory, will likely recall all the 'adopting' (plagiarisation) Apple has done over the decades starting with both the corporate logo and name, followed by purloining Xerox designs, Japanese connectors, Creative of Singapore, etc.
Not all the problems are of Apples doing, many stem from the poor law that implements and governs the USPO activities. What stupidity awarded a patent for corners and curves? And pixel formations in icons/avatars?
In areas of fast development, where inventions have short Best Before times, they should patentable duration of five years.
I remember visiting George Barnes Boot Factory, Chesham, Buckinghamshire, and there were all these ancient machines for boot and shoe manufacturing. I asked why not more modern machinery and was told they had to rent the machines from an American company dating back to the 1800's.
They couldn't improve the designs as every which way was covered by patents.
No wonder the Chinese don't pay too much attention to patents. Can't really blame them.
Surely the worst patent troll is Apple?
But aren't the patent trolls themselves "stakeholders"?
Should be used to fund a drone strike against the ultimate patent troll - Microsoft, rather than funding a company that hinders innovation for all.
'Obama says patent trolls 'extort money', pledges reform'
Obama is severely duped or severely bought. Impeach him.
infringers and their paid puppets’ definition of ‘patent troll’:
anyone who has the nerve to sue us for stealing their invention
Call it what you will...patent hoarder, patent troll, non-practicing entity, shell company, etc. It all means one thing: “we’re using your invention and we’re not going to stop or pay”. This is just dissembling by large invention thieves and their paid puppets to kill any inventor support system. It is purely about legalizing theft. The fact is, many of the large multinationals and their puppets who defame inventors in this way themselves make no products in the US or create any American jobs and it is their continued blatant theft which makes it impossible for the true creators to do so. To them the only patents that are legitimate are their own -if they have any.
It’s about property rights. They should not only be for the rich and powerful. Show me a country with weak or ineffective property rights and I’ll show you a weak economy with high unemployment. Does that remind you of any present day country?
Prior to eBay v Mercexchange, small entities had a viable chance at commercializing their inventions. If the defendant was found guilty, an injunction was most always issued. Then the inventor small entity could enjoy the exclusive use of his invention in commercializing it. Unfortunately, injunctions are often no longer available to small entity inventors because of the Supreme Court decision so we have no fair chance to compete with much larger entities who are now free to use our inventions. Essentially, large infringers now have your gun and all the bullets. Worse yet, inability to commercialize means those same small entities will not be hiring new employees to roll out their products and services. And now those same parties who killed injunctions for small entities and thus blocked their chance at commercializing now complain that small entity inventors are not commercializing. They created the problem and now they want to blame small entities for it. What dissembling! If you don’t like this state of affairs (your unemployment is running out), tell your Congress member. Then maybe we can get some sense back into the patent system with injunctions fully enforceable on all infringers by all patentees, large and small.
Those wishing to help fight big business giveaways should contact us as below and join the fight as we are building a network of inventors and other stakeholders to lobby Congress to restore property rights for all patent owners -large and small.
For the truth about trolls, please see http://truereform.piausa.org/default.html#pt.
Abject comprehension fail there, sorry
To start with, you're using an invalid term - it is legally impossible to commit "theft" of any form of intellectual property.
By definition, IP cannot be stolen - only infringed.
Not true Obama
Stopping patent trolls in their tracks is exceedingly simple: Make it so that in order to enforce a patent you have to show that you are actively marketing, selling, and/or developing a product that uses it. Also, make it so that if you are only developing a product and don't bring anything to market in some reasonable timeframe, say 5-10 years, then you have to pay back double what you won in the lawsuit. Granted that solution doesn't fix the rest of the problems with the US patent system, but it would kill the trolls dead.
No mention of.....
Apples dominance of the Patent Legal arena.
I may be wrong, but I'm guessing Obama and his family totes the newest IPhone products.
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