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The BBC Trust has approved a year-long trial project to show all programmes on iPlayer first. Some 40 hours of content across all genres will be made available online ahead of its TV broadcast, technically making every transmission a repeat. The Beeb has put out online-only content in the past, but this latest green-light means …

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Re: Tories are bad. Labour are good.

Used to be true. Since Blair they are so close that it's hard to tell the difference, so bias is, really, pretty difficult.

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Re: Tories are bad. Labour are good - not quite.

Blair they are so close that it's hard to tell the difference

Not really. New Labour is basically Labour with any shred of decency and ethics removed - I've watched them operate from up close and it wasn't pretty. Now I cannot talk about that, but just ask yourself how they got from a budget surplus to the largest gaping hole of a deficit when they were finally removed from office, and that was AFTER selling all the gold and raiding the pension funds to a point where people now have to work longer - and found it funny rather than deplorable to leave a note that basically said "we spent it all" for their successors.

The only politician who was possibly worse was Ken Livingston - a member of the same club, but so focused on his own pet projects that it even got too much for his fellow goons at No 10. I've seen him at work in West London where one of his scams would have resulted in the total destruction of an area including thousands of mature trees. The whole money making scam was so badly thought out that it pretty much derailed when people started asking where emergency vehicles would go - it had not been considered..

If you want any hint of just how much these guys took from the tax payer, just have a look how badly a certain Mr Tony Blair is doing these days. We paid for that.

End of political opinion..

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Re: Endless repeats of Pro-Labour Communist propaganda

you need something to counterbalance the Daily Mail, and the Express...and the Sun

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Re: But... But... The Tories...

The Tories, deep down, are just plain evil.

How ever much they pretend to change, as soon as you elect them they start doing stuff like eating babies that have been born in NHS hospitals. They can't help it. And when they've eaten all the babies, they sell the hospital.

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Interesting that this seems to coincide with the Trust's reviews of the BBC channels.

Now bearing in mind that it's long been talked about that the BBC has too many channels and needs to axe some - I wonder if this is the start of the BBC looking at creating "online" only channels.

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Axe BBC3 and move the few interesting programmes back to BBC2. Make News 24 audio only between midnight and 6am. Stop buying the rights to the horse racing, anybody who's interested goes down the bookies.

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@Fibbles

"Axe BBC3 and move the few interesting programmes back to BBC2. Make News 24 audio only between midnight and 6am. Stop buying the rights to the horse racing, anybody who's interested goes down the bookies."

Now, please tell me what programmes you are interested in, so I can make an excuse to get rid of those too

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er? horse Racing on the BBC?

Not any more it aint.... All gone to C4 along with Claire Balding.

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Re: er? horse Racing on the BBC?

@Steve: Hah, shows how little TV I watch these days.

@Jamie: My point was not that the BBC should cancel programmes on BBC3 that I don't like. I was pointing out that they have so little programming for their multiple channels that they have to show a lot of repeats. You could make room for Family Guy, Russel Howard and the rest on BBC2 simply by scrapping these. If people desperately want to see repeats there is always the iPlayer.

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Re: er? horse Racing on the BBC?

Family Guy is not on iPlayer presumably because Fox would not provide streaming rights.

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I want to get rid of my television. When it's on, it's usually just playing DVDs or recorded programs on the PVR.

I don't have SKY or Virgin, just bog standard Freeview, and the programs that are worth watching can be counted on one hand. And even those are recorded as they are broadcast at inconvenient times. Sometimes the PVR forgets to record, so then we use iPlayer.

So, hardly any as-it's-broadcast programmes.

Just writing this has persuaded me. Goodbye television!

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recorded programs on the PVR.

If your recording programs to watch later, you still need the licence.

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shame iplayer is so rubbish on android. Seems daft that I can view live news 24 but not yesterdays news as iplayer is not a good android app.

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at least you have it on Android, can't even get it on Winphone, although you can watch BBC channels with TVCatchup on winphones. Time the BBC started to support other vendors apart from Apple properly, they seem to be VERY Apple bias mind you the clue is in the name "iPlayer"

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I wouldn't count on it happening any time soon. They've only recently forced Rory Cellan-Jones to feature a slightly more diverse range of stories on his Apple technology blog.

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Considering another Register story showing Android with a significantly bigger share of the mobile market than iOS, it does seem odd that so many "apps" are iOS first or only and Android comes a poor second if it's even considered.

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Mushroom

Damn you Microsoft! Die Dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

...oh...hang on, wrong topic, got carried away there!

I do apologise. As you were.

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Re: Damn you Microsoft! Die Dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

No apologies needed. A perfectly natural reaction.

However, if you find yourself screaming this in the street, or in the middle of a conversation about, say, sport, then you just might benefit from a chat with a professional.

But, while you have it under control... As you were.

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So with my duff connection speed...

...I have a choice between blocky, pausey, tiny-vision when its first available, or risking spoilers by waiting for a more watchable broadcast.

Its bad enough when the HD broadcast is a week after the SD one, instead of simultaneous.

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Re: So with my duff connection speed...

It's usually bloody awful on my good 20mbit connection. Freeview quality varies between passably good and atrocious. iPlayer dreams of passably good, with resolutions guaranteed to cause blurring.

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Re: So with my duff connection speed...

"good 20mbit connection"

Your connection isn't as good as you think it is then, or your ISP is doing a bit of jiggery-pokery with the streams. I watched My Polar Bear Family and Me in HD a few weeks ago (on the BBC live replay thingy, the program had already started when I remembered it was on) and the quality was pretty damned good. This is with VM on a 10Mb connection.

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Repeat?

Don't you mean "another chance to see..."?

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Online content charges

So how long do you thing before BBC and ITV/C4 et al actively charge for accessing their content?

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State competing against private business - not right

So the BBC are using the power, force, and control of the state (cause they pretty much a part of the state/government) to setup a business in competition with other companies such as NetFlix. Not quite a fair battle.

It's not fair that the BBC can use the power given to it by the state to extract money from its customers even if they don't watch any of its output. Now it can use the power to muscle its way into other businesses.

Scrap the license fee. Make the BBC the same as any other private broadcaster.

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Re: State competing against private business - not right

Ah, yes, the EVIL BBC (budget: £5bn):, dominating the entire broadcast market. Those poor little independent guys at Netflix (revenue: $3Bn) and News Corp (Revenue: $33bn, BSkyB revenue: £6.8bn) must be quaking in their boots at the rampant statism.

Get in the real world. The BBC's budget is smaller than Sky's revenue, and Netflix are in the same ballpark without any of the costs of commissioning programs (new, notable projects aside, of course) or running a broadcast network.

The BBC pushing IPTV is a good thing. They are partially insulated from market forces and they're doing exactly what they're supposed to: developing new and cutting edge technologies, bringing them to the market in a state of maturity, with massive cross-benefits for all involved. Do you really think Netflix are that bothered that the BBC are using their clout to push the television market away from broadcast over the air and towards IP? Are they fuck, they're dancing round the room dreaming of their piles of money.

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Re: State competing against private business - not right

AC @ 04:19

All true, but you forget subscribers to Sky, Netflix, etc... pay for the service. People who have a TV, even those who actively avoid using the BBC service, pay for the BBC service. So yeah, the paid for services ARE at a disadvantage,\ in that they need to provide a GOOD service, but the BBC get an unlimited revenue for running endless re-runs of crap.

But yeah, other then that, you make sense!

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They've been moving towards this for a while. The beeb toyed with allowing viewers to "binge" on their more high brow drama imports a couple of years ago, as NetFlix are doing now with House of Cards. They found almost as many people were watching Mad Men in 2-3 episode batches off iPlayer as were watching it on broadcast, and it wouldn't surprise me if the same were true of Borgen and The Killing. Sky paying well over the odds for the Mad Men rights killed off that plan, though. It also killed off Mad Men's viewership, which is a bit of a pity.

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Cable networks in the States have 'em beat

Over here in the Colonies, pretty much everything is a repeat. If you find yourself in the States sometime, check out how many network promos end with "on an all-new (insert name of program here)" in order to let viewers know that they've actually produced a new episode of something, instead of the same episode they've been running every six hours for the past month.

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Quality

As long as it supports 1080p with 5.1 sound- then no problem.

i suspect it'll be some heavily re-compressed 720p stereo offering sold as HD.

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Terrestrial TV doomed

The days of terrestrial broadcast TV are numbered. Once 90% of the population can get their TV through broadband, then Ofcom will no doubt want to flog off the entire TV spectrum. The proportion that either can't get broadband at the right speed, or don't care to pay for it can be serviced through freesat.

Only radio will survive as a terrestrial broadcast service.

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Great idea, as a license payer, I am very happy with the Beebs content, and getting it first online would be very cool, having more access to their back catalogue would be even better!

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Best of all

It would be great if the Beeb could just offer us a high quality "digest" of its programmes, on a regular basis. Then we could see our favourites without hunting, recording, surfing and so on. This high quality digest, call it a "channel" if you will, could be broadcast over the air, thus easily received everywhere, and-

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YouView tail wagging the BBC dog?

A beneficiary of the arrangement described in the article seems to be YouView. YouViewers will be able to record on-line content that will not be available to vendors supporting terrestrial broadcasts until later. What are the relevant commercial arrangements? Do other channels such as Virgin Media also get access to the content ahead of the terrestrial broadcast?

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