Samsung demands Apple's iOS 6 source code in patent case
In the latest chapter in the ongoing global patent litigation between Apple and Samsung, the South Korean company has asked a local court to grant it access to the source code to iOS 6, claiming that only the code will tell whether Apple infringed its patents. According to a report in The Korea Times on Friday, Apple's legal …
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Re: Karma's a bitch
Which came first? oh yes, iOS did.
Android phones would have looked like a qwerty blackberry device without the iPhone.
Re: Karma's a bitch
@Steve Knox: I just upvoted you for amusement value, but...
thou hath => thou hast. "Hath" is third person singular, as in "he hath" - you got it right with "dost thou".
Bored
So so so so insanely bored of this now. If they want market share then make a product that earns it.
Re: Bored
They did. Unfortunately, someone else is now claiming it was *their* product.
Patent a Patent Trial process?
Maybe Apple should try to patent the process by which they require source code from another company to fight a patent trial. Since they tried to do it before, it must be ok. But OMG if someone tries to do it to them.
If Apple does have to disclose the source code, anyone care to wager that an out of court settlement will be reached quickly? The $1 billion that Apple won will go away and Apple could end up paying Samsung off.
My guess is...
...that Apple will do the same as SCO.
Hand over fifteen CDs packed with code to the courts and tell them to sort it out amongst themselves.
Re: My guess is...
It was IBM with AIX. SCO were the ones who demanded the source code. If memory serves me correct IBM gave them print outs as no specific format had been requested.
Re: My guess is...
If i was IBM I would have dug out an old punch card machine and gave them the source in that format then :)
Re: My guess is...
I can imagine some truck driver with pallets of punch cards "delivering" that source code.
Oh, and BTW, insure that it is NOT delivered in the correct instruction sequence, either. (i.e. Shuffle the deck first.)
Re: My guess is...
> If memory serves me correct IBM gave them print outs as no specific format had been requested.
Nope. IBM gave them servers.
SCO had IBM's AIX source code in an easily-searchable form. THe reason they found no infringement is that there was no infringement to be found...
Vic.
Source Code
Apple are terrified they'll be forced to reveal that iOS is actually written in ActionScript.
Apple should ask for plans for the Death Star.
I mean seriously seems Samsung copy most things from Apple - so what next iiOS or sOS on one of their devices. Why not ask for plans and prototypes of all new Apple gear so they can get a head start.
Apple Advantage
If Apple want to review Samsung's source code all they need is, to paraphrase Andy Rubin:
mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ;
Re: Apple Advantage
It was TouchWiz that triggered The Great Patent Wars and I'm pretty sure that's not included in the Android source. At least I hope it's not.
Re: Apple Advantage
Having had to work with TouchWiz, the bits I've seen and the way it breaks standard Android, I have every reason to believe Samsung use the infinite monkey approach to writing code.
Re: Apple Advantage
>have every reason to believe Samsung use the infinite monkey approach to writing code.
Seems to be the case in most companies but especially in companies outside of western Europe and North American. First thing comp sci majors need to learn when going out in the real world is never reuse code off the internet from someone whose last name contains more than 15 consonants.
Samsung bribes to steal from Apple ...
...if the judges are corrupted then Samsung will get away with it.
That is called mafia.
Re: Well do some work then!
he is lucky that he isn't trolling CW's Shark Bait, otherwise JIM THE BSOS would FRIER HIS SRORY ASSK.
That got me wondering...what is the collective noun for...
....iTards, you know like a Vectra of salesmen or a glaring of cats. Maybe a denial of iTards and a shiney of fanbois.
Politician line on crime
If Samsung was politician the line would be..
"If you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to fear."
Re: Politician line on crime
The trouble with that is another rule which starts something like this:
"How do you know when a politician is lying?"
Come to think of it, corporate lawyers seem to be heading in the same direction, ne?
Neither here, nor there...
Don't you just hate it when a typed word just looks wrong? Neither, Niether, breaks rule i before e yada... moving on.
Vastly amused by comments this morning - there is a high volume of generational 'there was nothing before this product' folks out, especially concerning these products. Funny how that is, what ever you, personally, grew up with, that was the pinnacle of whatever it was, and has gone down ever since.
Ya'll have fun, I'm off to figure out why we can finish a quest we started in EverQuest last night/this morning (Vergalid Mines if you must know) and will toss off a prayer to those people at RIM that they know what they are doing and produce a good 'un with BB10.
;)
Re: Neither here, nor there...
and going delightfully off topic:
I learned the rhyme as "i before e except after c or when sounded like A as in neither or weigh"
Now, I have no clue who on earth says "Nayt-her"-- I do know people who say nigh-ther. And what about weird? Probably this all made sense at one point when germanic influences on English pronunciation were stronger, but it seems an overhaul to the mnemonic is overdue. How about: "i before e/except when you see/some long since dead guy/placed e before i" ?
Re: Neither here, nor there...
According to an unimpeachable source* there are more words that break the rule than follow it.
* Oh all right, Stephen Fry on QI. And most of the examples he gave seemed pretty tendentious.
Perhaps Apple put it's fangs in a something the should not have?
Apple should have done their homework on Koreans and war before Apple went to all out war against their partner Samsung. Sucks to be Apple.
Maybe Samsung's code review would help Apple fix a few of their stupid bugs
Posted from my imperfect iPhone.
Nicer Company
I wonder if Apple really anticipated such a vigorous response from Samsung in courts worldwide?
I wonder how much it is costing Apple to switch CPU's and switch to a different memory supplier?
I wonder how anxious Samsung will be to have Apple be among the first customers for it's (possibly game changing) new flexible screen tech?
I wonder how Apple management feels now that their lawyers have made them look ridiculous with their crazed patent claims?
I wonder what it is like to be the most avaricious company (Apple) in tech? (and that is saying something given Intel's near monopoly in some market segments)
I wonder how all the Apple fanbois would feel if Microsoft/Intel acted like Apple is acting?
Apple = Stifle Innovation
Like most of it's products Apple is all talk and no trousers!
The trousers would be supplied as an overpriced add-on, ne?
How much
"Apple and Samsung are currently embroiled in more than 40 lawsuits in the US, Europe, Asia, and Australia, as each tries to use the courts to gain market advantage over the other"
And who's paying for all this. Maybe if they stopped all these stupid, pointless law suits which cost millions, they wouldn't have to charge such ridiculous prices for the bloody phones in the first place. Ultimately its us, the muggins, that pay for these bloody expensive lawyers.
"It doesn't make any sense. Samsung is saying that we should give up our most important data,"
At least Samsung are asking a court for it, instead of the Apple way of procuring it... Theft!
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