Re: Windows 8 FAIL
> but now your [sic] complaining that it's competing with the OEMs.
Surface _is_ competing with the OEMs, _and_ it costs too much. OEMs would find it difficult to make equivalent devices at those prices or cheaper. Apple can make iPads at those prices because it has built up an effective supply chain and distribution channel and it has the economies of scale. Android tablets can be inexpensive because the specs can be fitted around what is available.
For WinRT and Win8 tablets MS has laid down specs that require specific suppliers and even specific parts. The OEMs can not even choose which ARM suppliers to use, MS dictates that. Also each OEM has to have its own design so the manufacturing cannot get reasonable volumes to reduce costs.
In addition they have to send a fairly heavy licence fee to MS which is around 20% of the cost. By the time wholesale and retail margins are added anything the OEMs would produce would be as much or more than Surface.
Plus MS have cut the OEMs and retailers out of the software reselling market for W8 apps and taken all that revenue for themselves.
> Try to think your arguments through before using them.
Try to grow a clue, Surface (and other WinRT and Win8 tablets) are too expensive to compete in the iPad and Android markets, or even against laptops, _AND_ MS is trying to take OEMs' and retailers' revenue both with hardware and by locking in software sales to itself.