Nokia axes 300 IT bods, outsources 820 to Tata, HCL
Nokia will outsource 820 IT staff and make 300 more redundant, leaving a skeleton IT operation at the troubled phone maker. Up to 560 staff will transfer to Tata Consultancy Services and 260 to HCL Technologies, both of which are headquartered in India. Nokia says it has a relationship with the pair. Only small teams will …
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Well I will start with
http://wmpoweruser.com/the-us-windows-phone-market-share-grew-50-between-q2-and-q3-2012/
And apple market share to be overtaken by 2016 -
http://www.dazeinfo.com/2013/01/16/sales-of-windows-phone-smartphones-in-q4-2012/
Re: When was the last time saw anyone with a Nokia smartphone
I have an N9 (I am sure that rates) and I like it a lot.
OTOH, I have only ever seen 1 windows phone "in the wild".
Make of that what you will!
> http://wmpoweruser.com/the-us-windows-phone-market-share-grew-50-between-q2-and-q3-2012/
According to that:
"""This would mean Windows Phone added around 1 million users from Q2-Q3 2012, while iOS added 4.3 million users, and [Android] 5.8 million users."""
It doesn't seem that WP is gaining ground.
> And apple market share to be overtaken by 2016 - http://www.dazeinfo.com/2013/01/16/sales-of-windows-phone-smartphones-in-q4-2012/
There are always going to be crap predictions by companies that sell these to the highest bidder. For example previous predictions were that WP would have 9% share in 2012 and would overtake Apple by 2015.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/19/isuppli-agrees-with-idc-gartner-windows-phone-to-surpass-ios-by-2015/
Her's an earlier prediction that had WP at 3.9% by 2014 (and Symbian at 30%). They just make stuff up.
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1434613
I am thinking you are an accountant, because you can't look at a change in systems and see what it means unless you have links and spreadsheets.
Imagine we outsourced the British Army to Pakistan. Less cost. Guys can shoot just as good. What would the change be to the effectiveness of Britain's national defense?
Do you need links and spread sheets to tell me that?
It has nothing to do with Windows for phones, Android or iOS. It has everything to do with outsourcing key parts of the business.
It is not that Windows means no need for programmers, it is hiring programmers whose loyalty is to boosting their billings to Nokia.
"The US Windows Phone market share grew 50% between Q2 and Q3 2012" that seems like gaining ground to me.
" about an OS that isn't tied to one specific hardware manufacturer"
er, like Android, do you mean ?
Re: When was the last time saw anyone with a Nokia smartphone
Hmmm, seems to be a lot of ex-demo white 64GB ones on sale in these here parts for about 220UKP, or 185 for the 16GB one. If I had that sort of dough sitting... trust me ...... add-to-basket ahoy!
prophets, oracles and technology visionaries
Or you could just actually read the whole article and follow the links -
Here's a URL - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/11/nokia_q4_2012_preliminary/
Go read the facts and figures.
If this article is still writable on the 24th I'll add a link to their woeful financials (That's prophecy!)
So, these are supported speculative claims then?
Worthless shill crap ...
Ive used both those companies
...and they're not very good. Polite, yes. Very good? no.
For companies that are a good four hours ahead of us, they never emailed or replied or did any work on the system, before I got in UK time, even if I tasked them with work the evening before.
Like a lot of Indian outsourcers, some gifted staff, mostly dross though.
Re: Ive used both those companies
Still look on the bright side, must have massively boosted the takings of some restaurants in Espoo for a few days. Which will be going down below normal longterm afterwards, of course ;)
The outsourced IT department's job #1 will now be boosting billings
In general, the problem with outsourcing IT is that other people's staff have different objectives than your own staff.
Rather than boosting your own company's profits, the outsourced IT staff now want to boost the bodyshop's profits.
That means hazy project objectives, specification creep, hard coding variables, hard to maintain code, reduced documentation, failure to streamline procedures, not passing on savings from when procedures are streamlined.
All the wasteful stuff your own IT department tried to fight are highly desirable billing opportunities for your newly outsourced IT department.
Nokia, will be a textbook case of how to completely ruin a once successful global company. From #1 to 0 in record time.
lol
I remember when Nokias were desirable, now talking about your Nokia is like knowingly giving someone AIDS.
Nail/head
...soundly connected by WatAWorld.
The bottom line is that at a time when Nokia needs every employee to give 110% or more in order to survive they will now get what they contracted for and nothing more (unless it's additionally billed). The survival of Nokia is now only of secondary concern to a large group of people.
Re: prophets, oracles and technology visionaries
As promised -
Well, nearly good news in fact, $270M profit. The bad news, all made by cuts to production facilities, research facilities and 20,000 jobs.
In terms of real business - "...revenue dropped to €8 billion ($10.6 billion) from €10 billion as smartphone sales plunged 55 percent..." and when they made that €10 Billion revenue the previous year, they made a $1 Billion loss with twice as much sales, so this is clearly a 'good' report driven by cuts.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/21683/nokia-earnings-show-some-hope-windows-phone-lumias-lag-us-get-killed-china
Re: prophets, oracles and technology visionaries
Look at when the Lumia 920 was released. In 3 weeks it sold 4.4 million phones in China.
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