Unsweetened Pr0n

Dare I say it but if you look at the muscle tone of the prostitutes in that trade, you can easily tell the ones who drink too much sugar.

(So a friend told me.)

Have a look at the TED talk "Sugar The bitter truth". (No porn there.)

Re: Deadly

@Lee

"You can watch a tooth dissolve overnight if you leave it in coke"

Except this is patently, observably false. I didn't read the rest of your (probably) bullshit rant after that bit.

Nice one Mr Kent

But can you confirm for us that there are 7 spoonfuls of sugar in a can.

Not that you are entirely to blame:

"There is glucose-fructose syrup in one organic yogurt; organic sugar and organic invert sugar syrup in another. There is fructose in Müller Light. There is sugar in Hovis bread, sugar in healthy-looking Burgen bread, dextrose in Warburton’s wholemeal bread. There is fructose syrup in my Forest Feast dried berries. There is sugar in the steak pie. There is sugar in the smoked salmon. There is sugar in the seafood sticks. There’s a cheese I like, Wensleydale with apricots, which is delicious – thanks to the added fructose. There are sausages with sugar. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/dietandfitness/9160114/The-bitter-truth-about-sugar.html

Obviously you don't have the leptin problem spoken of here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

But you do have the skin tone of someone who would be putting on the 15 lb annually that a can a day has given you.

Re: Deadly

Kids are not free at school, in case you noticed :)

They're not free to think? More's the pity. It's nice to know we'll continue treating all teenagers as if they're complete morons.

Perhaps education is the key to solving problems, and would allow for freedom and personal choice, rather than simply banning anything that might ever cause the slightest harm to anyone. In fact, I seem to remember a form of institution dedicated to such education. What were they called again?

If you're honestly implying that our children - some of the oldest "children" in the world - are completely incapable of figuring this kind of thing out until the same age at which they magically become capable of understanding sex and alcohol, then I think that's very patronising.

In any case, drugs are not allowed in society - in general, when substances are addictive and have adverse side effects, it's best not to feed them to kids.

I think there might be a little bit of a difference between sugar and heroin, ta. But then, I'm one of those children-hating bastards who thinks drugs should be legalised.

Re: Deadly

Kids aren't free, they are still in the process of learning. Schools act in loco parentis. My parents wouldn't allow me sugary breakfast cereals every day, would only allow me two biscuits at a time- nor would my mum allow me to use my toboggan head-first when it snowed. My grandmother slapped me once when I started to cross a road without looking. These sorts of things are the job of parents.

My dad did try to encourage me to drink beer from a young age, but after he gave me a couple of pints as a toddler, I didn't touch it again until my late teens (I think my palette changed from sweet to bitter). Beer is good for you, as the malt has long chain sugars, cheap UK lager has added sugar and is piss.

Re: Deadly

"In any case, drugs are not allowed in society"

Only certain drugs, and only if a politician thinks banning them will help their election chances. They aren't banned to prevent kids getting their hands on them despite what you've been told. If that were the case, alcohol and tobacco would have been outlawed years ago.

Re: Deadly

" Has no child ever survived the terrors of a childhood filled with fizzy drinks?"

Many have. But lots of them have developed serious health -e.g. diabetes, overweight, kidney damage- problems later in life due to said fizzy drinks.

To put things in perspective, they don't want to ban fizzy drinks, they just want to prevent children from getting addicted to them when they are more vulnerable. If they parents want to exercise their right to destroy their children's healths, they are free to do so at home. I know some people who do just this, by giving their children a can of coke with every meal, but usually these parents aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

Re: My parents wouldn't allow me sugary breakfast cereals

Well that explains the constant dour demeanor at least...

Re: Deadly

It is the only way to preserve one's Purity of Essence, after all.

Re: Deadly

You can't drill into an iceberg a few millenia old to get the good stuff?

> rain water.

Ack! Sp-ff-ck!

@Dr. 81 Re: Splutter!

Dr. Chen is a double doctor. I wonder if he has a TARDIS? Do you?

P.S. For what it's worth, I consider the man who prescribes my medication to be a 'qualified medical practitioner' (and not a particularly particularly bright one). You da real doc, boffin and all.

Re: @Dr. 81 Splutter!

The medical doctor (GP) who drinks in our beer garden describes those with PhDs as being 'real doctors' as they have written a doctorate.

doctus

Maty, the Latin participle doctus means “taught” (well, really “having-been-taught”, since it’s in the perfect passive). It’s the Latin adjective doctus that means “learnèd”.

Thus, every homo doctus is a homo doctus, but not every homo doctus is a homo doctus. ;*)

Re: Caffeinated vs defcaf?

I switched to decaf for a few years for health reasons. After the initial couple weeks of getting over my caffeine addiction I became much easier to live with according to my wife. Interestingly during that time I ended up switching from normal decaf to Teeccino (which, for those who don't know, is basically herbal tea that tastes vaguely like coffee) because I found out that the decaf is even worse than soda health wise.

Unfortunately my caffeine addiction reasserted itself when I had to start getting up an hour and a half earlier than I have for the entirety of my adult life to start putting a little person on a school bus, but at least I've kept it down to a cup or two a day rather than the four to six pots a day I used to drink (no, that's not an exaggeration).

"12oz cups"?

I drink out of a mug.

Re: "12oz cups"?

Fair enough. 12oz mug, then :-)

Cylindrical ceramic thingie with a handle, holds about 0.35l. Holds the heat in nicely, too. We're more alike than we are different, kids, regardless of which side of the pond we reside in/on ;-)

@DAM, RE: "Listen to this man!"

No, please, do not ... rather, instead, TRY what I suggest & make up your own mind ... I ain't perfect, far from it ... I haven't had anyone bitch about my coffee in the last thirty years, though ;-)

Re: Workplace coffee sucks. Always.

Our workplace coffee comes from beans roasted and milled the second you press the espresso button. Coffee isn't meant to be a drink drunk in gallons, just small powerful shots that you neck - drink water if you're thirsty.

Re: "12oz cups"?

>In a country like Italy, where they understand coffee, a cup of coffee will be small and strong (even if it's >cappuccino).

And they serve it with glasses of water.

Re: "12oz cups"? @Dave 126

"And they serve it with glasses of water." Ditto Greece.

When I was in Thailand the coffee shops served glasses of coffee together with a glass of weak tea, so that you knew it had been boiled.

Re: Sweet Poison

Please no more stuff from neurotics.

Re: Sweet Poison

That would be the same Janet Starr Hull, "Nutrition Counsellor" (not a legally protected term, ever) who takes part in documentary videos about the expanding Earth hypothesis (I refuse to call it a theory)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8cJCvDnlfA&feature=player_embedded

That one? That's your credible source on aspartame? The bullshitter who sells diets based on vague fears over "toxicity" that claim to reduce your cancer risk? (She would never say "prevent", just heavily imply it.)

Fuck off.

Re: Sweet Poison

From what little reseach I have done CocaCola has HFCS (Corn Syrup, not sure about UK bottled ones) in them which is even worse!! and is linked to obesity. so much so when coacola introduced it is sales per year per person want 300 to 600.

Re: Sweet Poison

No HFCS anywhere apart from the US and Japan. Even the Mexicans don't put it in their Coke.

Re: Sweet Poison

Sucralose (aka Splenda) is actually made from sugar. As one of the partners in its development was Tate and Lyle, it's probably cane sugar. I don't know if that makes it better-tasting, or better for you.

HFCS popular in US because it's massively subsidised

"No HFCS anywhere apart from the US and Japan. Even the Mexicans don't put it in their Coke."

That's correct- UK Coke doesn't contain HFCS, in fact it's relatively uncommon here. We still use, er.... sugar. :-)

AFAIK the near-total replacement of sugar by HFCS in the US food industry is mainly due to the massive subsidies their corn industry receives, rendering HFCS (and other corn-derived products) artificially cheap, as well as to their large import tariffs on sugar.

Guessing it'd be a violation of trade agreements to sell it on the world market at the same (subsidised) prices, which would explain its far lesser popularity outside the US (or maybe their own people are consuming all they can make anyway). Doesn't explain why Japan is the exception, though;; if anything I'd have thought Mexico more likely to use it, as that's part of the NAFTA trading block.

Anyway, as long as I don't have to consume that crap.... :-)