Chinese student fails job interview because of iPhone
An incensed university student in China’s Jilin province has taken to the web to vent his frustration at being rejected during a job interview after his interviewer spotted that he owned an iPhone. The unlucky fourth year student, surnamed Gao, attended the interview at the tail end of November in Changchun city, only to be told …
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Re: depends
Possibly.
Or possibly one interview question took the form "So, what have you been doing since your finals?", and the answer was "Writing this iPhone app, see here...". Or maybe it was "How do you manage your time?", and the answer was "I keep my to-do list right here". I can think of a dozen interview questions that might reasonably provoke me to whip out an iPhone, if I had one.
But if I were this guy, would I really want to work for a place that admits to working people like slaves, and appoints peons like this interviewer to positions of authority? I'm thinking he had a lucky escape.
Top Chief Boss Man
He say "NO"....
eheheheheheheheh...........................
Wouldn't happen in the UK
over-privileged fops who have never done a day’s graft in their lives are exactly the sort of people HR bods are looking for!
Re: Wouldn't happen in the UK
"over-privileged fops who have never done a day’s graft in their lives are exactly the sort of people HR bods are looking for!"
Sad isn't it.
iPhone flops need the most supporting, costing more for less output.
Re: Wouldn't happen in the UK
It's simple really, HR loves to hire people like them.
Re: Wouldn't happen in the UK
Really?
Then HR must love to hire Vampires, because that's what most HR departments are composed of. Blood sucking wenches and peters.
Lucky Escape
Working there is pain and suffering? Wow, way to sell the company. I think he got away lightly!
Re: Lucky Escape
I thought that, I was wondering if he had applied to Foxconn.
"Working at our company [...] calls for someone who can take the pain and suffering."
Yeah, you're really selling it to me. Where do I sign?
Really? Is that the best reference you can do?
So according to NariNari, a Japanese website, some story in China is true? Only El Reg would fall for that in their quest to find shit to say about Apple.
Here's the real story (although not news): many fandroids are liars.
Re: Really? Is that the best reference you can do?
@dx 'Only El Reg would fall for that in their quest to find shit to say about Apple'
Actually this sounds like the sort of thing that Apple 'sponsors' in the media to make their overpriced products seem desirable.
A free I-Pad for the journalist and Japanese readers get a story about how Apple products are so exclusive and desirable that their poor oppressed neighbours are 'kicked out of the communist club' for owning one.
Re: Really? Is that the best reference you can do?
"Kicked out of the communist club?" Do you know anything about about China that's more recent than the last 10 years?
Also if you're looking at companies sponsoring the media, maybe you should look at bigger players - like HP, Dell, Microsoft, or the undisputed king of tech advertising, Samsung:
http://www.asymco.com/2012/11/29/the-cost-of-selling-galaxies/
Re: Really? Is that the best reference you can do?
Of course I am aware that China isn't exactly a communist state any more (some would argue it never really was). That wasn't my point - It is all about perception outside of the country.
Apple charge a premium for their products because they are seen as desirable and far from 'Apple bashing' as you implied, this article actually reinforces that impression.. so I smell a rat. Do other large companies do the same? Of course! Apple just seem to be the best at manipulating the media in this way (in my opinion).
Re: Really? Is that the best reference you can do?
"Apple charge a premium for their products because they are seen as desirable "
Apple charge a premium because people will pay. If people wouldnt pay then they wouldnt charge a premium.
Re the cost of selling galaxies
Meh!!! I don't know what the asymco site is saying, however the site does seem to be pro-crApple, so perhaps it is just promoting crApple counter-FUD. The graphs in particular are hard to interpret, there is only a breakdown of SG&A for Samsung. There is also no links to the original company accounts from which the data is exacted.
The article contains two telling paragraphs:-
I think a large part of the margin story is a relatively high level of spending on SG&A....
The author is unsure about the facts and what is expressed, if the author was sure of the facts they would have said something more positive such as "A large part of the margin story is a......."
So one of the more remarkable aspects of Samsung’s success has been their willingness to increase promotional spending. Considering that their other divisions don’t require as much “marketing expense” (semiconductors, LCD certainly, and TVs and Appliances to a lesser degree due to a smaller sales growth) we can imagine that the vast majority (subjective statement) of this promotional spending has been in support of their mobile brands, Galaxy in particular.(very subjective statement)
Earlier in the article the author states In the case of Samsung Electronics, as sales has grown these expenses have grown in proportion. As a percent of sales SG&A have held relatively steady at around 17%. So why is the author surprised that promotional spending has increased at the same rate as sales???
As one of my old lecturers used to say "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit"
Re: Really? Is that the best reference you can do?
Yes, but finding "shit to say about Apple" works on el Reg. Just look at all the commentards and voters falling over themselves to prove how superior they are just because of their choice of smartphone. This place claims to have a "vast IT Professional community". Heaven help the IT profession if the votes and comments here are in any way representative.
Re: Re the cost of selling galaxies
And this is why I wouldn't hire someone with an android phone. The odds of them being an angry basement dweller who will spend all day posting stupid comments here is just too high.
Sounds like....
... a terrific place to work. As someone who is responsible for hiring, I've implemented the same policy (unspoken) for a few years and not regretted it. Always make sure to gave a glimpse of a candidates phone. Keeping out the iChav proletariat has kept the quality of staff high. We only had one worker who subsequently bought a 4s - I made sure to utilise some of my more militant colleagues in a sting - we simply took the piss daily until he resigned. Good riddance.
Re: Sounds like....
sounds like someone's jealous and insecure!
Re: Sounds like....
I'm work in a company >15k employees.
A division that I used to work in have the attitude you have towards technology. Guess which division isn't cutting it?
If you can't embrace technology where you need to embrace it, good riddance your soon being check mated from the competition. And that is exactly what is happening to our company right now, we used to be the best in the world in our market. But as we suck on information management, due to freaks that hate tech, we are today loosing big time.
Yes same people who can't manage with mail, yet even less on a phone. It's really crippling us, and we are loosing customers because of it.
We aren't even in the electronic business, we are in the industrial business. Those same types who says "hard work solves it", but no, hard work does not solve anything if you can't do it right, or even worse do the wrong work at wrong time. I have been in it, doing it their way. Stupid idiots is what they are, thankfully I got into a different division with proper view of technology, this division get things done, but we do suffer due to that other division who can't deliver. And we are partly dependant on them.
Irresponsible idiots, that's what they are, and nothing else.
Re: Sounds like....
That's totally moronic as you have zero data on how and why this person uses that phone. It could be because they are developing code, in which case it's an investment rather than bling, it could be exactly BECAUSE they have worked hard so they earned it - there are so many reasons why being so judgemental is wrong.
I spend quite a bit of time ruthlessly weeding that sort of stupidity out of the people I train in security because it sets them up for very dangerous mistakes. If I find that attitude is too entrenched they can leave - there is no way I permit anyone with that sort of attitude to certify. I have also removed quite a lot HR morons with that attitude because they stop the people I need from getting in.
I found the CV of the best guy I have ever employed in a stack of discarded CVs discarded by HR, and I think he framed the copy I gave him with a big fat "NO" scribbled on it :)
If you want exceptional performance you need exceptional people - in my experience, these are exactly the people HR seems to be hell bent to get rid of.
Re: Sounds like....
You sound like a lovely boss to work for, judging people not on their technical competence, personality and achievements, but on them having the same preference of phone as you!
Which company did you say this was so I can make sure to "look out" for it when looking for jobs?
Re: Sounds like....
Agree with you there. Most HR are only interested in finding drones who will fit in with their idea of what corporate culture should look like. Anyone who looks like they have an opinion that would be outside the corporate norm is instantly disgarded. They usually end up stagnating in a working day comprising totally of meetings where they connect with each other, affirming and sharing each others' out of the box, blue sky thinking...which generally turns out to be exactly the same as old style thinking with a few extra bells and whistles.
Re: Sounds like....
Could be that his phone is .... just a phone. You know, one that you pick up and use now and then, carry for emergencies, and - being an iPhone - one that you don't have to spend half your time tweaking and fiddling with to get it to work properly and keep updated and synced, leaving you free to actually - you know - do some work.
Mine's the one with the iPhone in the pocket.
Re: Sounds like....
"due to freaks that hate tech,"
Informed employees who choose not to fall into the Apple trap are hardly tech haters!
Apple folk cost more due to the incredibly high number of support calls received by them.
Re: Sounds like....
bollocks... Who said it was Apple gear?
Quite the difference here, I help out those PC guys to get their PC to do what they should do at their work place. You know function in the work environment. You know all from fixing faults in the registry (caused by incompetent IT staff) to show them how to work in MS office software.
Imagine you need to be an Apple freak to be able to that, that is just such a big fail for your self-esteem.
Re: Sounds like....
"there are so many reasons why being so judgemental is wrong."
But everyone does, even you!
Re: Sounds like....
"Working at our company is tough. It calls for someone who can take the pain and suffering."
Pain and suffering? Must be Foxconn...
Re: Sounds like....
"sounds like someone's jealous and insecure!"
Sounds more like a piss-take troll to me
Re: Sounds like....
Also known as a dumb phone. Most people manage to get one for about £10.
Re: Sounds like....
No the worst thing for a company are the windows or androids douches infecting the network with their malware infected device.
same here
If you are looking for as software developer then they need to show sound technical judgement so if someone turns up with an iPhone they already have a huge negative to overcome.
Re: same here
..or maybe they know what's really profitable to develop for?
Re: same here
I see. Sound technical judgement ("gasp") and poor writing skills. Wonderful place to enrich your soul...
Re: same here
if someone turns up with an iPhone they already have a huge negative to overcome.
Unless you focus solely on Android that is quite simply stupid.
Pain and suffering?
Was he applying at a Samsung factory?
"Working at our company is tough. It calls for someone who can take the pain and suffering"
At that point, any prospective employer would have failed my interview process. Perhaps I'm an over-privileged fop who has never done a day’s graft in my life. Or a valuable, skilled asset who won't put up with this sort of crap.
"Or a valuable, skilled asset who won't put up with this sort of crap."
No, just a silly old fop with a chavvy "Jeremy Kyle" iPhone!
Well, it makes perfect sense
Using Android is great training in pain and suffering.
He is so misinformed
Having an iPhone is not a sign of having wealthy parents. Maybe he traded a perfectly honest and respectable kidney for one.
Remember, an interview is a 2 way street...
If if looks like a shit hole, then tell them you dont want the job. Done that a few times.
Seems to me he had a lucky escape - its a tought place to work with pain and suffering, you can take that and shove it, i don't want any stress related problems making some other asshat rich.
Go - because you need to before you get stuck.
Re: Remember, an interview is a 2 way street...
Don't work for any company that has to deal with Chinese or S. Korea companies then - there's pain and suffering right there, although you may not realise it in the job interview.
I'm not sure if you have noticed, but a lot of people have to take any job they can get at the moment - it's hardly a market where many can pick and chose.
Re: Remember, an interview is a 2 way street...
Screw up your economy much?
You deserve it!
Any fule know...
...you take your Jinpeng A1308 love heart phone into an interview and leave your precious at home.
I'm suprised the student didn't respond......
.....by telling the interviewer "I do know how to work hard, my parents didn't buy me this iPhone, I made it myself in the factory where I have worked since I was 7 years old......"
"Working at our company is tough. It calls for someone who can take the pain and suffering."
I wonder how many applicants they would get if that was part of the job advertisement.
Re: "Working at our company is tough. It calls for someone who can take the pain and suffering."
Where do I apply!
Re: "Working at our company is tough. It calls for someone who can take the pain and suffering."
"Where do I apply!"
Microsoft PR Dept.
Remember when it was the fashion to leave a gap between your tie knot and collar?
About 1986 it was the 'in fashion' to have ties done this way. At least for younger set.
In walks your Mister Smartypants, dressed at age 20 in a very expensive suit, with the air of "when do I start"? There was that equally fashionable and expensive tie staring me in the face bugging me throughout the interview.
I chose a female engineer, who had a permanent 'bad hair day', who had met Mr. Smartpants in the waiting room. Smartypants inquired of the results, even though letters had been sent, and I remarked the position had been filled by a woman who had a .Masters degree
His response was that, in his opinion, I had a made a 'mistake' as she had no sense of dress style and her hair was a mess! I replied I was hiring an engineer, not a fashion statement. She subsequently left and joined Nortel becoming a senior engineer.
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