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Google's Nexus 4 is said to have been snapped up within 30 minutes of its UK release this morning. Getting hold of a Glastonbury ticket would have been easier, apparently. The handset's affordable price obviously had masses eager with the Visa, ready to splash either £239 for an 8GB or £279 for a 16GB version. Google's Play …

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Re: In the meantime.

iOS doesn't work - what you smoking - seen plenty of iPads being installed in vertical markets / corporate etc.

MS are very late to this party - iOS already had the majority of the tablet market and probably even higher with business / corporates. What next - RIM are about to wipe all the other platforms out?

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Got mine

Didn't think my payment worked because it kept crashing but checked my google wallet and it is there and being processed.

Now the decision is if to keep my samsung s3 or the nexus 4, Mmmmmmm decisions!

I was supprised that google weren't able to keep up with the web traffic.

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Losers

I has Nexus 7. It is 3 better than a 4 lol so I win!

My friend has a 10. He is not my friend now.

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Re: Losers

You need to get a 4, then you'll have 11.

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Re: Losers

That is a good idea. You can be my new friend, and together we can laugh at people with only 10.

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Samsung = gutted. They will wish they had not p'd Apple off soon when LG, Motorola, HTC, Asus and others all start making the 'next best' Android handset.

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It's called competition

It drives companies to out perform each other and so Samsung will just have to put more effort into their next handset if they want to remain market leader. Contrast that with the Apple way of doing things which is to try and remove the competition with lawyers as they cannot compete on technical merit.

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Re: It's called competition

Indeed, though as Samsung is supplying the presumably higher margin Nexus 10 they are unlikely to worry too much. Anyway Samsung has announced the Galaxy Premier as a slightly cut-down version of the SIII.

@ Mr Cox - as desirable as "sold out" notices are for PR, most companies like to be able to keep on selling. Engineering shortages is against the law. The most likely thing is that Google still doesn't really know much about selling physical products: shipping, warehousing, etc. an may well have been genuinely caught out by the demand which does imply what many have been saying for a while: good Android devices are considered to be as good as I-Phones.

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Re: It's called competition

"an may well have been genuinely caught out by the demand which does imply what many have been saying for a while: good Android devices are considered to be as good as I-Phones."

Android has massively outsold iphone for years (as did Symbian throughout its lifetime), so indeed, it's long been true that most people consider them better.

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Re: It's called competition

Actually Mark the evidence is against your assertion. Volume of sales does not equate to a vote for which is better and I don't even need to provide examples of an assertion so obvious as that. Not that reason will make any difference to the response this gets :)

Two metrics that do provide a fair basis of comparison are satisfaction ratings and resale value. iPhones come our in front of any Android phones on both counts for sure - though for the first time for iPhone, since the Maps debacle, satisfaction ratings have fallen. However they still remain higher than for e.g. the S3 by some margin. This new Nexus may of course change that, but it is fair enough to point this out because your statement is referring to Android devices to date.

Additionally there seems to be evidence Android phones - outside of a tech clique (which are only a tiny proportion of sales beyond first day) - are not purchased by people who are really that into using smartphones. Data usage by iPhones is still proportionately much higher per user than is the case for Android (despite some initial reports in 2010 to the contrary) and pundits for some time have had difficulty understanding why that should be, but one interpretation is difficult to avoid; Android phones, perceived as the cheaper alternative by the general market, are purchased by a higher proportion of people who don't want to be left behind but who aren't particularly into smartphones or don't wish to allocate budget to purchasing an iPhone. Consequently they are used for core phone functions and maybe for camera and music, more than for web browsing and a wide range of apps (which is also backed up by the still far lower revenues and profit margins for apps developers on Android).

http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/21/real-time-research-ios-dominates-over-android-when-it-comes-to-usage-says-chitika/

http://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-owners-use-more-data-129207/

None of this changes how an individual might feel about an operating system, so it is is still perfectly consistent to say for those who are really "in the know" Android is better. However let's get some perspective as this forum is descending into a circle every bit as jerky as any formed by Apple fanboys.

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Keep a 10 year old handy

I had a look and they weren't released. As I stood up and moved away from the kitchen computer, my youngest slipped into the seat and was watching the page and refreshing. He nearly exploded with excitement when it changed within seconds (and nearly went hypo but that's another story). Managed to bag a 16GB as a surprise for wifey - his excitement blew the surprise out of the water though.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Keep a 10 year old handy

Exploded with excitement - think you need to let him out more.

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Re: Keep a 10 year old handy

Let him out more? He's a kid not a dog.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Keep a 10 year old handy

Bit sad a kid 'nearly going hypo' due to excitement over a phone (that's not even for him) becoming available - clearly has low expectations and it's not even an iPhone <lol>

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Keep a 10 year old handy

Poor kid if that's all he's got to be excited about maybe get him a tangerine and a lump of coal for xmas.

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Re: Keep a 10 year old handy

Should have been at School imho

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Quanitty

Surely would be nice to know the acutal volumes offered/sold.

They're now imitating Apple launches. Makes good headlines. Surely they created hype around the price points and then never followed up with enough stock. Dunno what they are playing at.

Wankers.

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Re: Quanitty

You do realize that it will be BACK in stock at the current prices right? It wasn't just a one-off sale...

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I'm far too cynical to believe that

a) they had massive stock which has all sold out and

b) their servers were having trouble keeping up.

Quite how any company famed for it's server infrastructure and ability to cope with a trillion web requests every 0.001 seconds (these aren't official figures) can fail to keep a simple shop running is beyond me. Quite how the stock level can manage to vary between "in stock" and "coming soon" within seconds is beyond me.

The only logical reason I can come up with for a company not accepting pre-orders is so they have the ability to peddle the Apple line "we underestimated the demand for our new product" - The sheer fact every tech blog for the last 2 months has been running at least one article on the Nexus4 pretty much every day - blows the "we didn't expect this kind of demand" theory out of the water.

Sorry - the whole thing smacks of Apple tactics (which I'm surprised haven't been patented)

And yes - I am bitter - I spent 25 minutes trying to get one - I had one in my cart about 10 times - but I just couldn't progress to the paying for it stage "oops an error occurred" - and then an empty shopping cart (which wasn't really empty - as soon as you tried to add the Nexus4 back to it - you discovered - Oh now there are 2 in there....)

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Anonymous Coward

Apple tactics - the difference is one of scale - Apple sell 3m+ in a weekend and god knows how many in the first hour or two - Google let the UK have 30k (apparently) - great. Will be telling what the actual sales figures for the first 3 months.

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The only logical reason I can come up with

Is that the Google Play devices store isn't hosted on the same servers as www.Google.com, and it was never a page access problem, it was the billing system that was choked.

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You're right that the difference is one of scale. Android is now well over 1 million a day, all year round, now 5 times that of iphone. Samsung android phones alone outsell them two to one. And in total sales, both Samsung and Nokia outsell Apple. That's what the scale is. I entirely and that "sold out" sales mean little, as far as the real total sales are concerned.

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Farcical

Decided to sell my iPhone 4S to get the Nexus 4 and I waited and waited and waited. Couldn't get any further than adding the phone to the basket in Google Chrome but then it kept producing an error

Worked like a charm in Internet Explorer and launched the google wallet screen, which kept producing an error or loading a screen with no billing details or information at all.

After several attempts it then told me it was out of stock. I used a link I'd copied and it was back in my basket. Managed to proceed to the checkout only to be told at the final stage after submission there was another error. Checked my bank account and they've taken the money for two phones instead of one.

I believe I have successfully managed to cancel one of the orders and that the other one is being dispatched, but I'll be buggered if I know how I ended up with 2 separate purchases when I only got as far as the billing information screen once.

Can't wait to get my hands on it though great spec'd phone and it's got pure Android which is leaps and bounds ahead of iOS now. Too many great features that iOS lacks without resorting to a jailbreak to resist switching

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Don't panic!

You can get one from O2 for.... £399.99 !!

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I wanted the 3G N7, which luckily is still for sale, think i will take my time just to be smug.

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@dansus

Hope you got a move on - sold out by 10.20AM.

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How much better...

...is this at tracking your personal movements, purchases, texts etc than the previous one?

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Re: How much better...

It's good, but, not as good as an iPhone.

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Re: How much better...

It's good, but, not as good as an iPhone.

I'm reminded of that ad that Apple ran not so long ago that bigged up Siri in particular. One female user asked the phone whether her brother had arrived yet at a stadium or something, and was told that [insert Brother's name] was here. And you talk about how Android phones spy on you?

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Re: How much better...

Ah, that's 'find my friends' and it's an opt-in feature.

http://sirisays.org/find-my-friends-with-siru/

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Anonymous Coward

Re: How much better...

Latitude? Had that feature on my Nokia N95

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Happy

Managed to snag a 16GB one here in Oz

But a lot of unhappy people missed out.

As far as I can tell, they went on sale at 11:20am local (sydney) time, I ordered at 12:30pm and the 16GB models were gone before 1pm. 8GB models lasted a bit longer, but not by much.

It's not the perfect phone, but the price makes it an absolute steal (plus vanilla android's quick updates means an always up-to-date phone).

From what I've heard worldwide stocks were *very* limited (which would explain the lack of preorders), possibly as a sweetener for their partners (who obviously make competing phones) also the fact that the phone must be being sold at something approaching a loss means that they're probably not sacrificing production of profitable models in order to get the Nexus out the door. Ultimately Google aren't a hardware company, hitting record sales numbers on day 1 isn't exactly something they need to keep their share price up, so they're probably happy to keep them trickling out at a constant rate and getting them out there when they do. Historically Nexus phones aren't volume sellers the way the SGS3 is, the popularity in the wake of SGS3, iPhone5, Optimus G, Lumia 920 probably comes as something of a shock to even Google.

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Go

Got mine, order went through eventually. Make sure your Wallet account is up to date with delivery addresses and credit cards.

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No ethernet port, no sale.

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obligatory: "1974 called and says hello" joke

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Happy

No MacBook

For you then?

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I can wait

I do like the vanilla Jelly Bean experience from my Nexus 7 so the 4 is certainly on the cards for me (and may well displace the S3 as my main phone). There's no rush though. I can wait.

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Oh and what's this?

A load of predictable opportunists selling Nexus 4s on eBay from this morning.

I'm all for capitalism and that, but I witnessed the same thing when I was trying to get a firesale TouchPad last year - after a whole night of trying and failing to buy even one TP online, I went into my local PC World and was flanked by two others, a lady who didn't even know what the fuck a TouchPad was (her mate had told her 'it's a bit like an iPad but really cheap') and some other bonehead and his mate who was trying to explain to the lady 'yeah, it's like an iPad innit but not as good. But it's cheap!'. Meanwhile there was me, Palm Pre owner since launch merely seeing the opportunity to own a tablet that I'd wanted (but couldn't afford) since its release. Never got one in the end.

The point of my rambling is that it must be quite annoying for people who genuinely want a Nexus 4 for their own personal use versus people trying to make a quick buck, who in my eye are no better than ticket touts.

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Re: Oh and what's this?

If you don't like it go to North Korea

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Re: Oh and what's this?

> A load of predictable opportunists selling Nexus 4s on eBay from this morning.

It's probably Google since they don't appear to be able to run a website that can cope with the demand.

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Re: Oh and what's this?

They're a laugh over there, is that where you got your amazing sense of humour from?

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Re: Oh and what's this?

Captialism, it's great. If someone is prepared to give me their money just now rather than hang on a couple of weeks, why not take the money?

Same with the Touchpad, I had no interest at the apple-esque prices initially charged, but when Argos accepted reservations in the firesale I got myself one and eventually slapped Android on it.

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30 minutes? More like 13!

I received the email and in no less than 13 minutes I was on the site ready to order and already the N4 was 'coming soon' again ....

Couldn't help but notice that O2 are profiteering on it too. £400? C'mon Google. Get a grip and get some more stock before I buy an HTC or Sammy or something ...

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Re: 30 minutes? More like 13!

"Get a grip and get some more stock before I buy an HTC or Sammy or something ..."

Go for it.

We can all laugh at you when we have Android 5.0 and you are sat there crying about how long Samsung/HTC/Sony/Whoever is taking.....

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"Company claims to have sold an unspecified number of things"

> There's clearly a pattern emerging from tech launches these days: announce the launch date and, on the day, sit back and await the 'sold out immediately' headlines.

On the one hand, you could put your money where your principles are and refuse to publish such non-news. On the other hand, if forum posts are a useful proxy for page views, you made quite a few ad dollars yourselves out of this "story".

I imagine companies don't tell you what the numbers are because they're uninspiringly low numbers. "We sold all of the 3000 UK Nexus 4s (which excludes the ones we'd already sold to carriers)" is less compelling.

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30,000 sold in the first hour?

By the looks of the posts above, it's due to people ordering far too many by mistake - either due to flaky web hosts or plain ol' PEBCAK...

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Since it might take a while for enough stock to be available

I might wait until the 21st to see what Jolla announce. Kind of getting fed up with Android.

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