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Hacktivists claim to have hacked and defaced the website of the far-right group English Defence League. The englishdefenceleague.org site remains unreachable on Monday morning following a claimed assault by ZHC (ZCompany Hacking Crew). The Pakistani hacking crew claims to have gained access to Gmail accounts owned by EDL …

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@cocknee

And if not everyone on that list is a genuine supporter? The screenshots on the hack showed a few people querying how the hell they'd ended up with a 'subscription', if genuine there could be more who haven't paid attention.

I agree with your sentiments, but it's the potential collateral damage that bothers me. In every witch-hunt we end up with collateral damage, whether it's a paediatrician (it starts with paed right?) or some other poor fucker caught up in the cross-fire.

Doxxing people can have some serious consequences, and as much as I despise what the EDL seem to stand for, I personally can't condone the end result of details being released. They're scumbags of the lowest order, but it's their right to hold their own opinions. When they take action that affects others, sure, do what you like with them (no holds barred is fine by me) but simply contributing should not be enough to warrant the kind of action that we're likely to see resulting from a leak of membership info.

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lambasts the EDL for its militant Islamaphobia and racism

Well a lambasting from militant Islamic head bangers is preferable to their usual MO of a bomb, blasting. Pot v kettle. I say put them in a football stadium somewhere let 'em fight it out. We can watch it on the telly.

Never understood the appeasement of and political love affair with Islam. I think it's Cultural Stockholm Syndrome. Problem is the CoE. If you respect the bonkers ideas one sub set of religious nut jobs you have to respect them all equally. Disestablishment of the church is the first step to a secular country. That and pointing and laughing.

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Who needs to release the mebership list anyway?

If there are 37,000 idiots prepared to "Like" the FriendFace page, surely they're being pretty much open about their views anyway.

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Re: Who needs to release the mebership list anyway?

Nice, makes daytime work much easier for MI5 :P

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He who fights monsters....

ZHC seem to have more in common with the EDL than they have differences. This seems to be a case Islamic fascism going after common-a-garden fascism.

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As the posts dont reflect the subject,

I feel safe in going off at a tangent.

Its dangerous to think of these people as "idiots" (the EDL)

They, like most militant groups (and we can throw these fuckers into the same camp as the various Islamic/Christian scum groups) are extremely clever at how they actually talk to the poor saps they recruit.

like h4rm0ny points out. Some of their aims are logical and tie into social fears, for example Islam is neither capable of being democratic nor does it give equal rights to women. Therefore they can use them as a fair target of attack. Getting normal people to, if not join them, then to "have some common ground"

Hitler did the same thing.

By thinking of them as clowns, your allow them some leeway, you give them a chance to mask their activities and allow them the ability to recruit more of the "idiots" who are generally those on the outside of society who would join anyone who holds out a hand to them, not caring about the actual aim of the group.

While I despise all religion in general as being more suited of a medieval word, these guys should just be outlawed as a terrorist organisation and not laughed at.

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Re: As the posts dont reflect the subject,

Fortunately, a quick look at the diminishing numbers attending their protests demonstrates that they're in the process of collapse. They lured in a number of relatively normal people with their moderate-sounding original aims. Then these normal people noticed that they were marching alongside unrepentant neo-nazis and lager-swilling football hooligans and left.

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"these guys should just be outlawed as a terrorist organisation"

Isn't that .. you know .. a bit fascist ?

See the conundrum you're in? You do it to yourself.

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Re: "these guys should just be outlawed as a terrorist organisation"

Counter productive too. A lot of them seem to be suffering from a persecution complex - all the rhetoric is about the poor white man and the two tier legal system and benefit favouritism for foreigners and immigrants stealing our jobs - the last thing we want to give them is a genuine reason to feel persecuted.

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Say what you like about the EDL..

But until the start blowing up buses and tubes, then quite frankly I arent got a problem with em, free speech is still free speach, and last time I checked they dont go around killing thier daughters in the name of Honour !

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Re: Say what you like about the EDL..

Shame that, the potential savings to welfare state could be huge

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Re: Say what you like about the EDL..

"and last time I checked they dont go around killing thier daughters in the name of Honour !"

They would have to find someone to procreate with first of all, and lets not pull punches but all those big boots and shaved heads wouldn't look out of place at a Frankie goes to Hollywood convention.

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Re: Say what you like about the EDL..

"Yeah, whatever you say about the knuckle-draggers, they are patriotic true Brits"

Balls.

If they were 'true Brits' they would accept multi-culturalism and ethnic and social diversity. Because that's what we are. Ever since the dawn of recorded history this nation has been about people getting off boats, saying "It's nice here... apart from some of those tossers telling us to go home", settling down, contributing cuisine and culture and language to the existing melange, and eventually becoming culturally indistinguishable from the rest of the nation.

The 'British Race' are a mongrel, who took bits from a swathe of cultures and made it their own. And THAT'S what makes this nation great: Our sheer mixture of roots and immigration. If you aren't multi-cultural with forefathers from half a dozen nations, then you're not really British.

Remember: Our Flag is a hodge-potch, our patron saint was Greek, lager is an imported idea, most of our royals are German-Greek, our national dish is Indian (kinda), and we speak a Germanic language, hybridised with thousands of loan-words.

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Re: Say what you like about the EDL..

"If they were 'true Brits' they would accept multi-culturalism and ethnic and social diversity. Because that's what we are. Ever since the dawn of recorded history this nation has been about people getting off boats, saying "It's nice here... apart from some of those tossers telling us to go home", settling down, contributing cuisine and culture and language to the existing melange, and eventually becoming culturally indistinguishable from the rest of the nation.

The 'British Race' are a mongrel, who took bits from a swathe of cultures and made it their own. And THAT'S what makes this nation great: Our sheer mixture of roots and immigration. If you aren't multi-cultural with forefathers from half a dozen nations, then you're not really British.

Remember: Our Flag is a hodge-potch, our patron saint was Greek, lager is an imported idea, most of our royals are German-Greek, our national dish is Indian (kinda), and we speak a Germanic language, hybridised with thousands of loan-words"

And all that, my tiny minded swivel eyed simpleton, is exactly what is at risk.

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Re: Say what you like about the EDL..

"But until the start blowing up buses and tubes, then quite frankly I arent got a problem with em, free speech is still free speach, and last time I checked they dont go around killing thier daughters in the name of Honour !"

[sarcasm]

Yeah, whatever you say about the knuckle-draggers, they are "patriotic true Brits" with a pride in their language and maybe even know which way up to fly the Union Flag.

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Re: Say what you like about the EDL..

"And all that, my tiny minded swivel eyed simpleton, is exactly what is at risk."

Down-voted for quoting an entire comment for just a one-sentence reply. And for it being an incoherent insult, rather than any kind of structured argument.

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Get what they deserve.

Was in the services on a motorway when a coach load of EDL yobs turned up.

As they were entering the service station one of the shouted at and scared my at the time 2 year old child.

If I was not busy comforting her as she was now crying, I would of taken him out for a good lesson in the history of English discipline, especially as him and the group he was with were laughing at the experience.

I don't under stand why, I'm 13 provable generations English, so I would of thought myself and my family are the kinda people that the EDL want to support, but this incident shows in my mind that the EDL are happy to recruit mindless yobs who seem too thick to recognise the people they are supposed to support .

Anyhow after that experience, this news makes me smile.

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Re: Get what they deserve.

Glad to see someone has downvoted you, here. People like you, who would seek to protect a frightened child from a racist mob, make me sick.

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Re: Get what they deserve.

Or perhaps the downvote for for writing an unverifiable clichéd ridden comment that seems, well, just a little to good to be true.

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Re: Get what they deserve.

Or for presuming that violence is an acceptable answer.

Or for despite being "13 provable generations English", not knowing the difference between 'have' and 'of'.

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Re: Get what they deserve.

Maybe you should stay off the spray tans....

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pardon me

I thought it was a football club.

I know better, now.

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So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

Who is going to defend you when the diversity enact their laws that mean that you are, at best, a second-class citizen? Do you really think that they will respect your left-wing causes? And really, you don't even respect your own culture and traditions, so why should they?

What are you going to do when they tell you that you must convert to their religion or pay a special tax? When they accuse you of blasphemy in order to take your property? What are you going to do when they ban alcohol and everything associated with it, including pubs and clubs? What are you going to do when they tell you what you can't eat?

The list goes on and on. Not one of the items on the list of the diversity includes any of the things on your left-wing lists. But after you have driven out, imprisoned or otherwised destroyed anyone who even mildly criticised the diversity, who will defend you? Who will fight for Britain?

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

Hahahahaha! Good one.

Is this a masterful troll, or just too much fail for the internet to handle?

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Devil

Sigh, I will try and answer or UKGNOME v the mythical "They"

Q, Who is going to defend you when the diversity enact their laws that mean that you are, at best, a second-class citizen?

A, The diversity? Nope not a clue, are you talking about climate change hippies or UKIP

Q, Do you really think that they will respect your left-wing causes?

A, Again, just who the feck are "they" presumably some right wing nut jobs

Q, And really, you don't even respect your own culture and traditions, so why should they?

A, Own culture and traditions. Right, that's it everyone - come the next fire festival I expect you all to be there. Away with you Christianity, we don't want you on our Pagan isle.

Q, What are you going to do when they tell you that you must convert to their religion or pay a special tax?

A, "special tax" you make it sound so seedy and as for telling you to convert well let me tell you buddy I aint no stinking transformer.

Q, When they accuse you of blasphemy in order to take your property?

A, Erm nope, at a loss, you simply need to give me more info.

Q, What are you going to do when they ban alcohol and everything associated with it, including pubs and clubs?

A, Again, just who is this "they" group? but to answer your question - Presumably no longer go to pubs and clubs.

Q, What are you going to do when they tell you what you can't eat?

A, As a vegetarian this has little or no bearing on me. So largely I will ignore the mythical "They"

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?"

It already has, you pillock. Or do you not live in a country that's spent 2,000 fscking years being colonised by immigrants. Or are you descended from a tribe of Celts who have been inbreeding with their cousins ever since the Romans arrived. Oh... you are. Right then...

"And really, you don't even respect your own culture and traditions, so why should they?"

Yeah, I love our [Indian] curries, chips [American], swear words [Saxon], our home-grown rock and indie music [Afro-American], lager [Germany], our patron saint [Greek] and the royal family [Greek, German]. Sod all that disgusting foreign muck!

"When they accuse you of blasphemy in order to take your property?"

There is no such crime in this country. You clearly love your nation so much that you don't know how its legal system works.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"Who will fight for Britain?"

Not you; according to this (http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/1501573) you live in France!

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

OMG! The diversity is coming to get me! The diversity is coming to get me! Help! Help! Don't let them diversificate me! Oh the humanity!

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

Yes, indeed I do and I am fighting for Britain in my own way by doing so. You see, the British government now no longer gets a penny of my money. And that means neither does the diversity or lefties like you.

Nearly 5 million other Brits have done the same thing. We have money and skills and we have taken them elsewhere. Britain has replaced us with Third World types who have neither money nor skills; they just take, take, take.

The more you and your type 'celebrate diversity', the more honest, hard-working Brits will leave until the welfare state collapses. That's the plan. Maybe the diversity will take over first, though. I won't be facing the sharp end of their swords, though, but you and your type will. Enjoy.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

@daggersedge

You're aware that there are about three times as many Muslims here in France as there are in the UK ... right?

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

It's ok, he just wants to leach off French muslim taxpayers and their nice social services ;)

Plus, have you ever looked up "buerette" (NSFW), I say,

ding dong!

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"It already has, you pillock. Or do you not live in a country that's spent 2,000 fscking years being colonised by immigrants. Or are you descended from a tribe of Celts who have been inbreeding with their cousins ever since the Romans arrived. Oh... you are. Right then..."

I read the OP's comment and post in general differently. I think you'll find that he is referring to the so-called 'Islamification' of the UK and is not speaking as literally as you seem to infer.

"Yeah, I love our [Indian] curries, chips [American], swear words [Saxon], our home-grown rock and indie music [Afro-American], lager [Germany], our patron saint [Greek] and the royal family [Greek, German]. Sod all that disgusting foreign muck!"

The nations favourite curry is not in fact Indian, but of Scottish origin or so folklore would have us believe. Chips are not American, unless you really mean fries or crisps. Home grown rock is just that and one of our biggest musical exports that has influenced the globe. Indie is not of Afro-American origin, but is of American origin as a genre. Not all lager comes from Germany and in fact the real British tipple is not imported larger but real ale. But as for the other two, you are correct.

"There is no such crime in this country. You clearly love your nation so much that you don't know how its legal system works."

I believe that the OP was making a reference to Islamic law/Sharia law. To quote that Wikipedia thing, "The punishments for different instances of blasphemy in Islam vary by jurisdiction, but may be very severe. A convicted blasphemer may, among other penalties, lose all legal rights. The loss of rights may cause a blasphemer's marriage to be dissolved, religious acts to be rendered worthless, and claims to property—including any inheritance—to be rendered void"

It would seem that the OP has issues with the perceived 'Islamification' of the UK.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"Who will fight for Britain?" why, the French Foreign Legion of course, silly !

Bit like in a Certain Baltic Country where one of the most rabid "defenders of nationalism" lives comfortably in, you guessed it ... Germany.

He's currently being prosecuted by the Baltic Country for impersonating a government organisation on his web site - and also for publicly threatening a national lawyers' organisation with physical harm, presumably the one that is involved in prosecuting him for the impersonation, who also as part of that are going to remove his original "services to the country" medal, for being a dick.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

He feels so strongly about islam, immigration and welfare in the UK that he's move to a country over TWENTY miles away that has more muslims, more immigrants, and a larger welfare state.

Il est pas tombé de Charybde en Scylla. Il a sauté.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"The nations favourite curry is not in fact Indian, but of Scottish origin or so folklore would have us believe."

I didn't mention the nation's favourite curry. I mentioned curry. Which is Indian. And even if it's Anglicised Indian, then that's rather my point: This nation takes ideas from other countries and makes it part of their own. Saying that curry is Scottish precisely strengthens my argument about 'what is being British':

"Chips are not American, unless you really mean fries or crisps."

Where do you think potatoes came from? As to the cooking technique... From Belgium, isn't it? Ah... land of my own forefathers... dirty immigrants who moved here 700 years ago.

"Home grown rock is just that and one of our biggest musical exports that has influenced the globe. Indie is not of Afro-American origin, but is of American origin as a genre."

All modern rock music is Afro-American in origin. Rock (and Indie rock of course) came from rock and roll, which came from blues, which stemmed from African-American music. Check out the history of contemporary music sometime.

"Not all lager comes from Germany and in fact the real British tipple is not imported larger but real ale."

The type of beer and the brewing technique was born in Germany. It seems to be the chosen tipple of the kind of person who joins the EDL. Though frankly, I prefer that quintessential tipple: port (which is Portuguese). As to real ales which you consider British: Hops were introduced from the Low Countries 400 years ago.

Learn something every day, don't we?

"I believe that the OP was making a reference to Islamic law/Sharia law."

Which isn't how our justice system works. And anyone who thinks that our entire legal system is going to be thrown out and replaced with Sharia law is clearly a paranoid lunatic.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

Your argument is puerile and childish as the same could be said for just about any county in the worlds. You sir, are a fool.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

" I mentioned curry. Which is Indian"

Extract from 'The Origins of Curry': "When the English merchants landed at Surat in 1608 and 1612, then Calcutta 1633, Madras 1640 and Bombay 1668, the word ‘cury*’ had been part of the English language for well over two hundred years."

So what you are really trying to say is that Indian curry is just Indian Curry and you seem to deliberately forget that the word curry or cury existed in this country long before we started consuming Indian curry.

As for the rest of your drivel, I'll just agree the the AC poster as unfortunately your line of argument is childish, highly flawed and holds true for just about very nation on this planet.

* ‘Cury’ was the Old English word for cooking derived from the French ‘cuire’ - to cook, boil, grill - hence cuisine.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

Psyx:

You really are deranged. You must realise that all but one of your counter arguments can be counter argued by going just a little further back in time than you do don't you.

You are completely wrong about the origin of curry which has been pointed out already. You are only correct if you chose to define curry as Indian curry, which you point out you did not. Fail.

The size and scope of your arguments diminish with each possible repost. I agree with the others, you are a berk.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"Your argument is puerile and childish as the same could be said for just about any county in the worlds. You sir, are a fool."

Your argument doesn't even exist: It's a childish insult hidden behind a nameless mask, Mr. A. Coward.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"As for the rest of your drivel, I'll just agree the the AC poster as unfortunately your line of argument is childish, highly flawed and holds true for just about very nation on this planet."

Lol: Fail. You can't find any ammunition to counter, so dismiss it as irrelevant. Nice debate technique.

Do you genuinely believe that the English culture is this isolationist bastion? We are about multi-cultural-ism. And in a hundred years time the families of immigrant's today will be moaning about the latest influx of foreign culture, while wolfing down their kebabs in sweet irony, just as the Anglo-Saxons moaned about the Normans.

"‘Cury’ was the Old English word"

No it wasn't: It was Middle English. If it had been in use for over 200 years in C16 and was a French loan word, it's Middle English, not Old. You don't even know what language we spoke 500 years ago? Some nationality you are!

But what's your point anyway: That we 'imported' a dish and gave it a English name, so it's not a foreign dish, but a national one? What kind of straw man argument is that?!

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"You must realise that all but one of your counter arguments can be counter argued by going just a little further back in time than you do don't you."

Off you go then: Put together a reasonable counter-argument to mine, which is that everything typically viewed as English and 'great' and a rallying call for out cultural identity is essentially a localised import, instead of name-calling.

I'd be interested to know how far back in time you want to go in order to tell me that potatoes and tea are English!

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"But what's your point anyway: That we 'imported' a dish and gave it a English name, so it's not a foreign dish, but a national one? What kind of straw man argument is that?!"

When someone says: "let's all go for an Indian," we all understand they mean eat a curry. Even if somehow a curry was a Scottish invention (which is unlikely as you don't fry a curry), everyone thinks it is Indian which is good enough for the point that British culture is willing to embrace foreign cultures to its benefit. And good that it does!

Lager, to go with the curry.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"Off you go then: Put together a reasonable counter-argument to mine, which is that everything typically viewed as English and 'great' and a rallying call for out cultural identity is essentially a localised import, instead of name-calling. I'd be interested to know how far back in time you want to go in order to tell me that potatoes and tea are English!"

I have one - talking about the weather. No other nationality does it like the British are obsessed with doing. It seems to be a cultural perculiarity arising from our geographic circumstances. It seems to arise spontaneously in whatever people inhabit these isles.

There you go - a definably English trait that cannot be traced to any foreign culture. Talking about the weather shall be our new culturally defining trait. Instead of that nonsense about answering questions on the Queen, immigrants will be expected to hold a conversation about the weather for ten to fifteen minutes without hesitation or repetition. If they can do that, they get the stamp and they're in. ;)

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"I have one - talking about the weather. No other nationality does it like the British are obsessed with doing. It seems to be a cultural perculiarity arising from our geographic circumstances. It seems to arise spontaneously in whatever people inhabit these isles."

Interestingly, that's not really a habit borne out of interesting in discussing our weather. It's a cultural thing certainly, but it's more a social development: It's a 'safe' area of small-talk for starting a conversation. It's not class related and everyone knows the rules. We don't *really* need to debate the weather with people constantly: It's just a social mechanism.

qv 'Watching the English'.

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"immigrants will be expected to hold a conversation about the weather for ten to fifteen minutes without hesitation or repetition"

I'd vote for this.

Unless it's drizzling. I've just had my hair done. Democracy is very important but I'm not risking a frizzy do for it.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

"Lol: Fail. You can't find any ammunition to counter, so dismiss it as irrelevant. Nice debate technique."

No. I just have much better things to do with my time. Sorry, but rattles and prams spring to mind. Enjoy your day and try not to start an argument with yourself.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

@Psyx

OK, now I have some time I'll address a few points.

"Do you genuinely believe that the English culture is this isolationist bastion? We are about multi-cultural-ism. And in a hundred years time the families of immigrant's today will be moaning about the latest influx of foreign culture, while wolfing down their kebabs in sweet irony, just as the Anglo-Saxons moaned about the Normans.

If you had taken time to read some of my other posts you would have in fact noted that I am all in favour of multiculturalism and I am in no way bothered about English heritage coming from a shared stage. We are all the better for it. You assumed, and assumed incorrectly, about my position here. Did you in some way confuse me with 'Daggersedge' (the OP) or assume that I, in some way, agree with his position. If so - quite absurd.

As for cury/curry, the first reference that I am aware of is in a 1390 tome entitled ‘The Forme of Cury’ (apparently derived from the French ‘cuire')

"Some nationality you are!"

Oh really. Grow up.

"But what's your point anyway: That we 'imported' a dish and gave it a English name, so it's not a foreign dish, but a national one? What kind of straw man argument is that?!

No that's not my point, and I am quite sure you are able to discern that for yourself but choose not to.

My point is that, just because you assume that a curry is Indian, that is in fact not necessarily the case. Yes, as others have pointed out 'going for a curry', will often - but not always - be taken to to mean an ' Indian'. However your clearly stated "I mentioned curry. Which is Indian". This is only correct if one makes certain assumptions. There are many within our society to whom a curry does not mean 'an Indian' as it could, in our multicultural society, equally mean Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, Thai, Cambodian etc. So on that basis I disagree with your statement that 'a curry' = 'an Indian', as that some would claim (but not me) demonstrates cultural stereotype/bias.

Some sources claim that the once nation favourite curry, masala, was created by a Pakistani chef named Ali Ahmed Aslam, of the Shish Mahal restaurant in Gibson Street Glasgow by improvising a sauce made from yoghurt, cream and spices. True or not, I don't really care.

As for your earlier comments and retorts:

In respect of chips (I can't really believe that I am posting this on the Register).. You say,"Where do you think potatoes came from?"

Chips (of the fried variety) are certainly not American. (Apparently that hail from Scotland). So you therefore attempt to justify your statement by saying that the potatoes come from America. Every potato? Really? Quite absurd. Those I purchase are sourced locally, as are most non-brand food items I buy. (And please, don't reply telling me that they aren't local because the fertiliser came from New Zealand, à la your Belgium frying technique argument).

Your then continued with "As to the cooking technique... From Belgium, isn't it?"

A complete and utter irrelevance. Fire's were likely first kindled in Africa, but does that make my Smeg cooker African? No, of course not. What has the technique to do with it? Little, if anything.

"Hops were introduced from the Low Countries 400 years ago."

Whilst hops may have arrived on these shores from the Low Countries, they actually originate from China.

To quote your good self, "Learn something every day, don't we?"

Your original arguments, as put forward to the OP (Daggersedge), were flawed, and they remain flawed.

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Re: So what are the lefties among you going to do when the diversity takes over Britain?

The 'they' everyone really means are the muslims - particularly Pakistanis, Indians and Bangladeshis that seem to be swamping our shores from their own lands like an overflowing septic tank.

The muslims are a primitive 3rd world cult that havnt developed culturally since the middle ages and that follow the teaching of a paedophile who invested his own religeon based on christianity to cover up shagging a 9 year old. A bit like Rob Hubbard / Scientology but the details are a lot less credible...

Muslims just dont belong here and don't integrate and thats the real problem that many here alude to...

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Anonymous Coward

Never mind all the fine details, what I want to know is, are they about defending "English", in which case maybe they''d like to learn some, judging by their title, or perhaps they meant to call themselves the "England" Defence League, but FAILed? Or perhaps they are defending someone called Mr English, I hope he''s not too stressed by his new friends :P

To sum up, English-"WHAT" Defence League?

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