There used to be a popular saying in the industry: "Microsoft doesn't get it right until version 3.0." I say used to because you don't hear it very much any more. It was arguably true of Windows, which first hit its stride with version 3.0, but not for much else. The Xbox sold from the first incarnation. Windows CE passed the …
Re: tethering isn't new...
My Nokia with WI phone 7.5 has tethering. Maybe a network thing?
From which part of your body did you pull this statement?:
"although there must be questions over battery life, since WP is like Android in terms of guzzling power."
The battery life on any windows phone outlasts any Android device anytime... Do your homework better next time in making statements like this.
What I VERY MUCH welcome..
.. is quite simply the competition.
It doesn't actually matter what you like or have (and I'm not going to slag off any platform because it quite simply depends on what anyone considers important), with another player in the field all will have to do their best.
Never a bad thing IMHO.
I want one. A 920.
I am definitely not a shill but I confess to being an ABA (Anything but Apple). I own an HTC One X. Great phone with problems. Trouble is I have 2 yrs contract left!
How do I get this one past the missus?
Re: I want one
If you think you have problems with the HTC One X, you haven't seen anything that Microcruft couldn't do in a much more exasperating fashion, with arbitrary restrictions and very simple work flow things that - incredibly - just don't work.
And when you ask on Microsoft's community support forum, you'll find that all Microsoft representatives have been extensively trained to never admit to a mistake, bug or missing feature. They will just divert you like "you could just not do what you want to do, but instead do this other interesting thing"
I have gone from a "Win8 is going to be poo and Linux will replace it" to a "here I quite like this Win 8, where's my credit card for this upgrade". I really quite like the look of Surface too. But both surface and WP8 whilst looking good and making me want to try them don't inspire me with confidence just yet. I think I will be waiting till the next generation of both to decide.
Saying that if RT had been £200-250 I would have bought it just because.
Re: I really quite like the look of Surface too
All these pixels Just to show the ugly rectangles for color-blind people?
Oh, wait, I see - Mr Ballmer must have finally learned BASIC's graphics functions!
SET BACKGROUND COLOR "green"
...Wow, look at this!
SET COLOR "magenta"
BOX AREA 100,300,100,200
...Yippee! Quick! Run it into production! I've made it myself!!! It's gonna be big!!!
OneNote and SkyDrive
Does anyone know if diagrams/photo's taken in OneNote on a PC now sync to Windows Phone?
I'd also be interested to know if Skydrive acts like Mesh used to, in that it syncs a LOCAL copy so I can access when out of coverage?
Re: OneNote and SkyDrive
Yes.. sync works both ways. Ink'ing and other images show on my 920. I can add images to onenote on the 920 and see them on the PC or via skydrive's OneNote web app.
I am not surprised by the review
After all, MS gave us a glimpse of what happens when you use a phone OS for the desktop (what a fail). But on a phone Windows 8 should be good. I am happy we have more competition now. It is good for us when more contenders fight for a bigger market share.
Why does the world want a crashy Windows phone when the world has iPhone and Google?
I use iOS AND Android. I can't see this as a replacement for either.
I don't use Android, I have iOS on my iPad but can't see myself using iOS on a phone again. It's just a lame app launcher.
"The music volume isn't independent of ringer volume - still."
And this is the reason I, the rare happy Windows Mobile user, jumped ship to Android.
My Windows Pocket PC 2003 SE iPAQ hw6500 phone can do that.
My Windows Mobile 5.0 HTC Touch HD can do that.
sure they've added a lot of nifty new features, but on some core features they generally seen to have gone a step backwards.
This is an honest question:
Even if Winmo is any good, is it a good idea to give your phone to a convicted monopolist (which is clearly playing nice only because they have no other option right now), when there is a perfectly valid, and much more open platform?
I'm talking about Android, obviously, and running Google apps/services is not mandatory.
When it comes to desktop, as much as I use and like Linux, Microsoft is unavoidable, and they kill everything they touch.
However with phones/tablets we have valid alternatives Android and Apple's iOS, do we want MS to conquer and destroy that market too, so they can have all the computing space and kill competition/innovation?
I for one will never buy an MS product unless there is no possible alternative.
So give your phone over to a soon to be convicted monopolist instead?
Only Apple are in the position of not being investigated.
MS is out of the 10yr period, they don't have to play nice anymore. They also aren't a monopoly in the phone space.
I was going to say that I didn't realise that there were that many people interested in Windows Phone 8 - but then I realised that some were by the same person, so I guess there aren't.
I'd be sad to lose Nokia maps if I trade in my N8. Built in, free updating sat nav was a primary reason for buying it. So I'm waiting until the new generation of Nokia phones becomes usable. Has that time come, should I wait for the next fix or should I wait until apple catches up?
Re: Nokia Maps?
Current Nokia WP7 devices have Nokia Maps, Nokia Drive, Nokia City Lens, Microsoft maps.
The mapping and location based services are well covered, free of charge and of a better quality than anything on iOS.
The Windows Phone OS is optimised for communication and many services are integrated which is better than launching apps all the time. In WP8 Skype is part of the OS, switch it on and you can take Skype calls just like normal calls.
Re: Nokia Maps?
Hmmm. Words like 'optimised', integrated and 'Location based' scare me. I worry that coming up to a complicated junction the map will suddenly change and message will pop up saying. "Aunt Gloria is calling from here (arrow) in Fort Lauderdale, Flo, USA. Do you want to set this as your destination? "
All you need to know at a glance...
... a picture of a steaming turd would have done.
No amount of embarrassing advertising (anything from MS with 'trendy' music is like watching old Uncle Hector dancing amongst the teenagers) will persuade Joe Public that an MS mobe is cooler than Apple or Android.
Only the seriously uncool middle-aged will give it a chance, everyone else will avoid.