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Microsoft has redrawn its corporate logo for the first time since the 1980s in a move likely to have the web boiling over its significance. Out is the fluttering Windows flag with Microsoft spelled using a bold black typeface and the "o" slashed by the "s". In is a four-piece square that looks like a Simon memory game, with " …

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    1. Poor Coco

      Re: green or yellow as a third primary

      I suspect the fundamental problem is the nonsensical way we teach children about colour.

      For example, “Roy G. Biv” is a lousy way to describe the colours we see, because it conflicts with colour nomenclature. Either it omits cyan, or calls cyan, 'blue' and blue, 'indigo'. It also completely omits magenta, since it only addresses spectral colours.

      Magenta is missing; magenta is the emission of red and blue-stimulus photons simultaneously. This can also be accomplished by absorption of green photons from full-spectrum ambient light, which is what magenta ink does.

      Until one understands colourspace, and how additive and subtractive colour work, and arguably also how colour spaces are defined, it's hard to generalise laws that depend on colour perception.

      Simpler, more abstract ideas about colour lead to design decision ambiguity. Individual designers don't follow consistent rules. Two designers, working independently on the same assignment, will have different final results. That's okay in my books.

      1. Nuke
        Headmaster

        @Poor Coco - Re: green or yellow as a third primary

        “Roy G. Biv” ?? I've never heard that one. We were taught "Richard of York gave battle in vain"

        1. Poor Coco

          Re: @Poor Coco - green or yellow as a third primary

          Search for "roy g. biv song" on YouTube; you'll see tons of educational songs, including one by They Might Be Giants — which was the original source of my complaint. They are exceptional in kids' music in that (a) they are educational, (b) the music doesn't suck and (c) they nearly always get their facts straight and they value scientific integrity. So this song, on a DVD of science-related tracks, was disappointing for me because they describe the colour spectrum without relating it to how we see colour and with misleading colour names (which Richard of York uses as well).

    2. Kristian Walsh Silver badge

      Primary confusion...

      Our eyes may be approximately RGB sensors, but our brain's visual processing interprets colour differently to this. Colour Opponency is one of the theories that tries to describe the processing of colour, and also explain why, for example, Red and Green are perceived to be more "opposite" from each other than Red and Blue, which actually are furthest apart on the spectrum.

      By examining at which colours "fight" each other when put side by side, the Colour Opponent Theory yields four "natural" colours: Green and its opposite, Red; Yellow and its opposite, Blue, plus black and white. ( see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opponent_process )

      Most graphic designers will have encountered this theory at college, or will be aware of colour opponency though experience, hence the recurrence of these shades whenever companies ask for "bold colours" in a design. (The old striped Apple logo just added orange and purple to the basic four shades)

  1. VeganVegan
    Linux

    Putting multi-colored lipstick on that pig

    It's still a pig.

  2. Christian Berger

    I still don't like their anti-semitic undertones

    Couldn't they get that swastika on the multi coloured background out of their logo?

    1. Nuke
      Big Brother

      @Christian Berger - Re: I still don't like their anti-semitic undertones

      Those downvoters, get some humour. After all, we saw Balmer giving Nazi salutes in the monkey dance.

      http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/securitymonkey/govinaction-the-tsa-will-not-touch-your-monkey-11923

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This is blasphemy!

    This is madness!

    1. Chika
      Happy

      Re: This is blasphemy!

      Madness? THIS IS WINDOWS!!!

      1. Medium Dave

        Re: THIS IS WINDOWS!!!

        **BOOT** - "Arrrgh!"

        **REBOOT** - "Aarrrrrgghh!!"

        "You have 4 Important Updates..."

        "Aaarrrrrrrrggghhh!!!"

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  5. Mike Flugennock
    Coffee/keyboard

    I detect a familiar odor...

    "This wave of new releases is not only a re-imagining of our most popular products, but also represents a new era for Microsoft, so our logo should evolve to visually accentuate this new beginning," Hanson said.

    The box "is important in a world of digital motion" while the little squares of colour are "intended to express the company's diverse portfolio of products".

    Jeezus, it totally stinks of sage in here. Somebody open a window.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I detect a familiar odor...

      Jeezus, it totally stinks of sage in here. Somebody open a window.

      That's not sage.. it's Salvia.

      1. Graham Dawson Silver badge

        Re: I detect a familiar odor...

        That's not saliva...

  6. Mike Flugennock
    FAIL

    speaking as a graphic designer with 30-odd years' experience...

    ...Jesus H. Tap-Dancing CHRIST. Did they pay actual money for this? Oh, who am I kidding; I'm sure they did -- well into six figures, at the very least. Not bad money for about ten minutes' work.

    Hell, it looks like they didn't even have to use an actual drawing application to do it, either, or even spend any time trying out different fonts. It looks like it was done by a design department intern, right there in the client meeting, on a laptop with the drawing tools in Word, and the fonts that came installed with it.

    I almost feel sorry for Microsoft these days; seems they just can't stop stepping in it.

  7. Barrie Shepherd

    For me the Channel 4 logo (and associated jingle) is probably one of the most successful (and pleasing) graphics of the last century - well done MS for catching up!!

  8. GumboKing
    Black Helicopters

    The Illuminati will be mad

    I always thought that little triangle between the O and S on the old logo was supposed to evoke an Illuminati Pyramid. I guess a different conspiratorial cabal is in charge now.

    Black Helicopter, natch.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The Illuminati will be mad

      The centre of the four squares is a top view of the apex of the pyramid.

      1. Field Marshal Von Krakenfart
        Devil

        Re: The Illuminati will be mad

        No No, its not the Illuminati,

        ASCCI Code(B) = 66

        ASCCI Code(I) = 73

        ASCCI Code(L) = 76

        ASCCI Code(L) = 76

        ASCCI Code(G) = 71

        ASCCI Code(A) = 65

        ASCCI Code(T) = 84

        ASCCI Code(E) = 69

        ASCCI Code(S) = 83

        add them up = 663, he's Bill Gates the 3rd so add the 3 = 666

  9. Dana W

    Hilarious!

  10. Dana W
    Trollface

    Hah.

    A sad fake Apple commercial to get people to the sad fake Apple store.

  11. Medium Dave
    Windows

    Why have I got a sudden urge to watch "Play school"?

    Let's boot up... through the square window.

    (Old? Me?)

    1. Field Marshal Von Krakenfart

      Re: Why have I got a sudden urge to watch "Play school"?

      Here's a house, here's a door.

      Windows: 3.1, XP, 7, 8, ready to knock?

      Turn the lock - It's the Play School developers.

      "One of our three magic windows (c) (tm) can open wide to show both town and countryside, let's go through the . . . . . . . . . . . .Square window. . . . . . . . . . OH MY GOD!!!, it's hideous!!!!!"

      1. Medium Dave
        Coffee/keyboard

        Re: Why have I got a sudden urge to watch "Play school"?

        FTW. :)

  12. YeaRight

    Whatever!

    You MS haters make me laugh. If it wasn't MS it'd be someone else.

    So, they've changed their logo. So what? Looks more modern if you ask me! And who cares how much it cost? I don't!

    And anyway, many of you haters are probably sat there in your sandals and socks, so what would you know about design or "fashion"!!! :)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Whatever!

      YeaRight

      Whatever!

      You MS haters make me laugh. If it wasn't MS it'd be someone else.

      So, they've changed their logo. So what? Looks more modern if you ask me! And who cares how much it cost? I don't!

      And anyway, many of you haters are probably sat there in your sandals and socks, so what would you know about design or "fashion"!!! :)

      -------------------------------

      And you Microsoft astroturfing shills make my toes laugh. Recently registered on the 23rd August 2012 for a snarky retort on your virgin post?

      I hope you're paid well for your efforts.

      (Pasted your comment at the top, just in case you decide to sneakily delete it.)

      1. sabroni Silver badge

        Re: Whatever!

        And of course we know exactly when you registered, mr. Anonymous pussy. Talk about double standards.

        But thanks for pointing out an MS shill, we'd never have guessed from the content of the post!

    2. Wombling_Free
      Trollface

      Re: Whatever!

      Nice lawn.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "This wave of new releases is not only a re-imagining of our most popular products, but also represents a new era for Microsoft"

    Yeah, the end.

  14. P. Lee
    FAIL

    MS: Better to laugh at us

    Than to think about our competitors.

    Its the Endermol of the IT world.

  15. Silverburn
    Happy

    Where's the whalesong? Goodness me, the agencies have really lost their touch these days.

    But it's good to see the "It took us 5 minutes of doodling and we discovered it by accident but we're still going to charge you 6 figures" philosophy is still in place.

  16. toadwarrior

    It's not that new at all. The logo is the same as the outlook 2007 categorise icon except a flatter and possibly a couple of the colours switch around.

    There's not that much you can do with those colors when creating a relatively simple logo I guess. Unless they want to copy google poke-ball / simon says logo.

  17. Kristian Walsh Silver badge

    "Helvetica-like"?

    Sure, whatever. And Debian is BSD-like.

    The typeface that Segoe is, um, reminiscent of is Adrian Frutiger's eponymous "Frutiger" (UK residents will recognise Frutiger from its use as the corporate typeface of the NHS, but its first use was as signage for Charles de Gaulle airport)

    While we're at it, this isn't the first time Frutiger has been allegedly "appropriated": the designers of what is now Apple's corporate typeface (Myriad Pro, by Robert Slimbach and Carol Twombly for Adobe -- it's the default font in Adobe Illustrator) were also accused of shamelessly ripping off Frutiger.

    In any case, the amount you have to change a font by to be considered a "new" face is only about 5%, and it's very easy to hide this in the punctuation, i-dots, and symbols... or the tail of the capital Q

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Seems odd ...

    Seems odd to me that they remove all the colours that are synonymous with Windows from the Windows 8 logo and then add them to the Corporate logo instead? :S

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Let's shed a tear for the older, 4th gen Microsoft logo

    1987-2012. 25 years. RIP.

    We grew up and grew old with the old Microsoft logo. Many experiences and memories, good and bad.

  20. Tony Paulazzo

    Cinema goes 3D, Microsoft goes 2D

    Augmented Reality adds information rich overlays on our 3D world, Microsoft goes flat

    Subtle light and shading on realtime mapping, Microsoft goes primary... er, colours

    Way to buck the trends Microsoft

    And I'm not a MS hating anything - running Win8 now, with a ClassicShell plugin 'cause ModernUI sucks donkey balls, but I've been a windows advocate from version 3.1. I just haven't buried my head in the sand, nor do I think it's any kind of a good design... Tablets and PCs are different! Viva la difference!

  21. adam payne

    New logo

    New logo but same old Microsoft.

  22. Corborg

    Yellow

    Yellow is traditionally Exchange Server in MS worlds. Maybe yellow should just be for Server.

  23. Wombling_Free
    Pint

    Deckchairs, Titanic.

    Hmmm, right before launching a new OS that is already being regarded as Vista II?

    Why not spend an obscene amount on a new logo?

    That said, I would have loved to have had the contract to design.... a SQUARE, then smoke top-grade hash for 4 weeks solid to come up with the accompanying design justification and marketing burble.

    Yep, mine's the pint.... of absinthe.

  24. Captain Scarlet
    Devil

    I like the old logo

    Whats with making stuff straight and box like, think outside the box or at least look outside the windows.

  25. Steve 6
    Joke

    The same as the old logo ... but with all the creases ironed out ...

    Shame the same can't be said for their software!

    B'dm tshhhh

  26. Kubla Cant
    WTF?

    Microsoft's red, yellow, green and blue colours

    OMG! I've been using red, yellow, green and blue colours for years. I never knew they were Microsoft's. I should have read the EULA.

    Are there any colours left for the rest of us?

  27. skuba*steve

    @Yellow

    Is this not for the UC offerings (Exchange/Lync et. al.)?

  28. Joey

    I would say that a black rectangle with rounded corners is more distinctive and memorable that four coloured squares. The grey 'Microsoft' though, in a generic sans-serif, is a stroke of genius.

  29. John 62
    Headmaster

    Helvetica-like?

    That's a long way from being like Helvetica.

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