Apple wins EU-wide Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 ban
A German court sided with Apple today and agreed that Samsung's Galaxy Tab 7.7 infringes iPad design patents, granting Cupertino permission to push for a European Union-wide ban. The same court threw out Apple's claims against the Galaxy Tab 10.1N, though. Cupertino had previously tried to squash the 10.1N in the Munich Regional …
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Stupid idea given how many grand mothers confused the snes and mega drive.
Design patent?
Has anyone SEEN this "design" patent? It's for a thin, rectangular computer with a touch screen, one connector, and one button/hole on the top. This is so absolutely generic and common sense as to be laughable. Kellogg needs to try and patent a cardboard box with flaps and food stored inside and then sue everyone.
From what I see...
The Samsung has a back camera. Not mentioned in the "design" patent.
No size was mentioned in the patent.
Three buttons and two slots on the Samsung, not to mention the speaker grille, light sensors and front camera.
No colours were specified.
And the Samsung has writing on it that strangely enough, DOESN'T say Apple...
Apple is deathly afraid of losing market share and those HUGH profit margins from all the slave labour they outsource to Foxconn. They haven't done anything original since the first iMac. They simply take an existing product, go and bedazzle it a bit, then tell everyone they invented it and they have to buy it or be laughed at for being "uncool" at Starbucks.
Re: Design patent?
Has anyone SEEN this "design" patent?
It's the most ridiculous patent I've ever seen. The "design" is this:
It doesn't even describe the iPad, which of course features a button at the bottom centre of the fascia.
Re: Design patent?
Personally I would state most baking trays have prior art on that!
Re: Design patent?
No, the most ridiculous patent award goes to the Samsung LCD TV design patent.
Which is this:
"Television set", Dong-Hee Won et al, May 2012
At least the iPad as a product was different from previous efforts.
Re: Design patent?
Have Samsung tried to enforce that patent though? Or do they consciously file daft patents on the basis that Apple have done the same and then sued their competitors over them? In other words, are the actions of litigious companies such as Apple are creating a situation where everyone's obliged to file patents for everything, regardless of how lacking in novelty they are?
Re: Design patent?
"This is so absolutely generic"
This is only true in the post-iPad era, where everyone copied Apple's design, Samsun most egregiously. Prior to that tablets ALL looked absolutely different to the iPad.
Your statement is typical of people who think then=now
Re: Design patent?
I have my design sketches from the 80s resembling the Apple design. With questions like how to do multi-finger touch detection.
Your statement is typical of people who have not worked in technology research. Aka consumers.
Re: Design patent?
@AC...
Have you looked at old tablets?
I've seen many that have the main elements, rounded corners, flat back, touch screen, bezel...
Other features are obvious to anyone in the field, and are purely only available now due to technology evolving...
So is this judge going to demand that Samsung have print advertising and message on their website for 6 months saying they copied the design of the iPad?
And when
Apple bring out a 7" tablet, they'll clearly have copied the Android crowd and so will be guilty of copying them. So we'll see the iPad mini banned.
With any luck we'll see everybody and everything banned by the court.
"And in a moving speech the judge moved that life itself was in contempt of court and so confiscated it from all there present" - The late great Douglas Adams.
This will get fruity
According to Heise, http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Apple-vs-Samsung-Verkaufsverbot-fuer-Galaxy-Tab-7-7-nicht-fuer-10-1N-1650216.html, the court has indeed agreed to a ban of the 7.7 in the EU. That's going to be tricky to enforce, especially in the light of the UK judgement. Add to that the considerable different implementation details of the 7.7, not least that it's OLED. Court's not far from here I reckon the decision was taken so they can enjoy the few days of summer we're having.
I think this is going to be kicked upstairs pretty quickly and then all bets are of. A judgement like this has direct consequences on trade within the single market. It's not a knock-off handbag or wrist-watch. This could be a Pyrrhic victory for Apple.
FFS
Apple didn't invent the tablet PC, perhaps the rights owners of Star Trek should get themselves to Germany!
As for the design, it's a tablet, what the hell else is it supposed to look like? Should Moses be in court too??! (I accept that Moses is a fictional character)
Re: FFS
Maybe it should look like the Galaxy 10.1N which the court accepted as being sufficiently different from an iPad?
Re: FFS
Your total lack of fantasy and inability to do some research and see how tablets looked in the pre-iPad era, gets you a down vote.
1: All tablets did not look like the iPad before. There are many examples available to see on the net and many referenced here on The Register.
2: Many tablets today look substantially different from the iPad. Two examples would be the Xoom and the Sony offerings.
The answer to you question "what the hell else is it supposed to look like?" is "Anything your mind can magine, but you can't copy the iPad". That you imagination is stunted is your problem, not the world's.
Dweeb
NO Faith
I have ZERO faith in Judges!
One says one thing and another contradicts it, these people are the biggest bunch of fkwits going.
Patent Reform Now
The patent system is frequently a blight on the progress of the advancement of technology and the benefit it bestows.
You're not supposed to be able to patent something that would be obvious to someone skilled in the area of expertise. Making things simple or minimal should not be patentable. Ever. If anything doing that is a renouncement of design - scaling things back to their natural appearance without embellishment.
It's like saying, hey, you know all those fancy filligrees and twists and swirls that you guys put on your dining tables? We're going to do something "revolutionary" and pare all the embellishment back and just produce a simple minimalist table: four legs and a top. Maybe we'll round the corners, but that's it.
(Gets design patent)
HAHA WE NOW OWN THE CONCEPT OF A SIMPLE TABLE!
That kind of monstrous landgrab is an affront to everyone, no matter who does it. It is the defining characteristic of a neoliberal capitalist philosophy: take ownership of all that's common and profit from it exclusively to the detriment of everyone else.
Apple are scum.
Anyone else just tired with all of this?
There doesnt seem to be a day go by without X suing Y over some patent. Just seeing the headline annoys me. Cant El Reg just run a ticker board with running commentary and live score. Apple 56 Samsung 54 Googlrola 63 Microsoft 32 . Ballmer sent off in the 50000th minute for foul and abusive armpits.
Time flies
Just one more reason that I won't ever let an Apple product in my house!
How about an Ipad3 where the wifi works.
Had US visitors in the UK last week. 21 day old ipad would not connect to our Belkin Router. The Macbook was perfect. ipad2s work. All our other computers with wifi work. Apple shop advice was "reboot the router"!
There seems to be a major problem with ipad3s not connecting to some routers using encryption. Apple are in denial. Are they facing a recall situation?
Re: How about an Ipad3 where the wifi works.
Apple don't recall,they just deny the situation until the replacement is ready.
well...
Before you slam Samsung and co for trying to get their money back on FRAND patents one has to take into account the huge R&D costs that go together with developing new communication protocols such as 3G et al compared to the cost of designing a bloody rectangular-based object and call it innovative. Furthermore, without the prior TRUE revolutionary work carried out by Nokia, Motorola, Samsung et. al, your fscking IPad would really just be that, a baking tray-shaped object. The world has truly gone mad...
Apple appear to have given up trying to sell products based on ability, now they're just gonna try and sue the competition out of the market.
Next up, MS v Samsung?
So will Microsoft now go after Samsung for copying it's Version-numbering-'N'-suffix-method-for-naming-near-identical-products-with-EU-ban-avoiding-modifications? (Windows XP N, 7 N, etc)
Never gonna buy anything Apple again
I will never buy anything Apple again - I hate their sleazy practices!
Barking, simply barking...
I've got a Samsung Fondleslab 8.9 (3G/WiFi). I thought about a 10.1, but when I tried in the shop, it wouldn't fit in my favourite coat pocket, whereas the 8.9 does, snugly. That's the sole reason for my choice. It's only the display size.
Yet, the damn things are otherwise identical in every way. Same functuality, everything...So why is one deemed to have infringed patents, whereas the other hasn't???
(I love it, BTW)
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