Buzz: iPhone 5 arrives September 21, demand 'unprecedented'
Apple's highly anticipated iPhone 5 – or whatever the marketeers at Cupertino choose to call it – will be released on September 21, according to the iPhone rumor du jour. In addition, a new survey shows the pent-up demand for it to be "unprecedented." A Monday article on the French-language website App4Phone (Google translation …
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@Frank 14
Go back to the top of this thread and read the comments. The first poster is rabidly anti-Apple, the second wouldn't mind but has reservations about their business practices... then we have a bloke who says that he will probably get one because he thinks it work as well for him as previous versions have... then a we have a bit of back and forth about system 'lock-in' and Linux...
Exactly which one of these posts was by an 'iSheep', pray tell?
If you do have a valid point, for example about the effect of screen-stroking upon social interaction, then please phrase it in those terms. People may agree or disagree with you, but at least you will have stated your reasons.
"Here we go again, all the iSheep foaming at the mouth"
Look, we all know the products you like can't compete with the iPhone without stealing their patented tech and you feel bad about that which is understandable, but attempting to impose your will on people by insulting them just because they buy something you don't like just makes you look like a sour grapes idiot.
Sadly you sound more like a stuck record, moaning and complaining, than any of them! They're not bothering you personally are they? No one's forcing one on you? So long as they do it in the privacy of their own homes and don't hurt anyone, where's the harm in people using their Apple kit?
I don't really like "iKit" stuff myself but my friends and family seem happy with it, they get stuff done so why should I spoil their buzz? Live and let live I say.
Now if you want some real arguments...I think Canon is better than Nikon and my ZX Spectrum has way more games than your Commodore 64!!
Oblig. The Oatmeal's "What It's Like To Own An Apple Product"
Obligatory The Oatmeal comic strip - "What It's Like To Own An Apple Product"
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple
Re: Oblig. The Oatmeal's "What It's Like To Own An Apple Product"
you could change that cartoon to ANY product made by ANY company.. its pointless
Rounded edges AND the headphone jack in the lower left...
I have resisted an IPhone up until now, but the headphone jack in the lower left feature put me over the edge...
Where do I sign up for this god-like device?
Re: Rounded edges AND the headphone jack in the lower left...
This changes everything. Again.
headphone jack in the lower left ...
... right where I hold the thing. Very useful.
Re: "right where I hold the thing. Very useful..."
You're holding it wrong.
What more do people want from a pocket device?
When mobile phones first became ubiquitous, the features were much the same between the cheap and cheerful and the fancy- the distinguishing factor was size... the 8210 was tiny compared to a 3210, the 6210 merely offered better ergonomics, a bigger phone book, compatibly with the cradle you already had in yourJaguar and the possibility of upgrading to Bluetooth with a new battery.
That a mobile device should be able to fetch you such info as train timetables and weather in a non-fiddly manner is a no brainer- such services already existed in a ring-up-a-person-and-ask-them way.
But... now what else could be wanted from a phone? I asked my mate why he stuck his Galaxy SII on eBay just to get a SIII and he wouldn't / couldn't tell me.
Re: What more do people want from a pocket device?
+1
Exactly! if you already own an iPhone 4/4s even a 3Gs and you already know that all your apps will run on the iPhone 5, why would you bother to shell out the 500+ GBP/EUR for it? will it perform other miracles that your current iPhone doesnt? not likely.
I replaced my first smart phone (an Android device) with a Galaxy S because it broke. 2 years later and there still isn't a phone in the shops that will bring any more real world functionality. So I find myself waiting for a new Moto RAZR MAXX why? you guessed it the Galaxy S broke and the RAZR MAXX should do what my Galaxy did but for a little longer than a whole day....hopefully
Re: What more do people want from a pocket device?
Actually, theres one thing that I would love to have but probably will never get.
Reliable telephony with no dropped calls, SMS messages that don't arrive 24 hours after the fact, etc.
Re: What more do people want from a pocket device?
I'm with you on that one but it appears that none of the major handset suppliers have you or I in mind as their target market...
I'm really hoping that wp8 is big step up from wp7; i'm more interested in seeing how that turns out.
Only Microsoft could inspire such concern that the new product might not be better than the old one.
Standard connectors...
...are not 19 pin for a smartphone. They're a micro-usb socket. Time for the EU to start a new campaign to make apple trump up the cash to right all the environmental wrongs they have and are continuing to cause by using proprietary, non standard connectors which directly contribute to the needless build up of electrical waste, and constantly annoy anyone who doesn't have the right plug when their battery is depleted around a friend's house.
As an engineer, it's my duty to ensure that products I work on have the highest possible environmental standards. Having a "converter" or whatever as they do currently is absolute rubbish, and flies in the face of the spirit of the environmental responsibility which created the need for standardised ports and chargers in the first place.
Yet another black mark for apple right there. If you're continuing the survey, no, I'm not buying one.
Re: Standard connectors...
not all MicroUSB connectors are identical. My HTC phone will only charge with an HTC branded cable. My partners Samsung supplied microUSB cable won't do the job. Several other ones I have tried suffer the same fate.
Pehaps the EU should go after HTC for not allowing other makers cables to charge their phones?
At least with Apple, the charging cable is their connector at one end and a Plain old standard USB one at the other. My old and battered iPod Touch has it and AFAIK, the cable hasn't changed for at least 4 years if not longer.
Re: Standard connectors...
erm, sounds faulty, My Desire HD and now my One X both happily charge from my Kindle cable and a generic ebay cable.
Re: Standard connectors...
Not much of an engineer are you? Apple is surprisingly supportive of standards, but "non-standard" connectors have their place for non-standard (collections of) signals. Apple has had a USB connection on its chargers for some time, but there's lots of things USB doesn't do. Here's some examples of things the nineteen pin connector has done for consumers/Apple for the past ten years:
Data and charging via USB voltages/currents/protocols.
Data and charging via firewire voltages/currents/protocols.
Connection of video and audio signals eg to your TV.
Creation of a large and healthy accessory market.
Avoiding most of the problems created when punters try to charge with inadequate current sources.
Providing a continuity of customer experience while underlying technology evolves.
So the nineteen pin connector has been of huge benefit in managing the evolution of Apple's mobile products to maintain compatibility and interoperation.
Historical note: USB was at one time more or less dead in the water, despite being mandated by Microsoft for new PC's. Apple saved USB for Microsoft and Intel by leaving everything else (parallel, serial, ADB, firewire and the floppy disk drive) out of the original iMac. Retailers started stocking USB mice, floppies and printers, and USB was thereby slowly adopted by the mainstream.
Re: Standard connectors...
There is two micro-USB connectors. The standard one (D-shaped) and USB OTG cables (square one). Both of which can be attached to each other connectors without any issue.That is, if you do not take it as an issue, that wrong kind of cable is slightly looser than standard one and you will kill the connector in your phone in few months time. If your phone's micro-USB connector is used for charging, PC-connection and not to mention to upgrade your phone SW you clearly do not want this not happen.
This is classic case representing, why warranty is void if you do not use standard accessories.
Re: Standard connectors...
Not buying one - you probably never were. You make out like no-one else uses a proprietary connector - but I'm pretty sure it's for good reason - i.e. it 'does more' .
You can't just assume any charger will work - for instance some tablets need a 2a charger whereas the USB standard spec is 0.5a. It would be nice to think you could have one charger to charge them all - but seems impractical and probably inefficient to use a power adapter capable of 100w that charges a laptop to also be able to charge a mobile phone.
Most of their AC chargers just output to a USB port so you can switch the cable if needed - that is better than one with a fixed cable that would go to waste if you needed to charge a different device.
Think you will find Apples environmental responsibility is better than many other manufacturers - they have a proper recycling program, seem to support their products for longer. Remember the best way to be green is to reduce consumption - if you need 1 x iPhone over a 4 year period but would have gone through 2-3 'other' phones as they were no longer as supported which is greener?
Re: Standard connectors...
I use the Apple 2a charger - a single charger can charge my iPad, iPhone, Kindle, bluetooth headphones etc. One charger and a couple of different cables - that actually is less wasteful than a lot of other manufacturers.
You can swap the plug easily to use it abroad (no no buying extra adapters) - it's actually a very good solution and I actually wish others would follow Apple and either not provide the AC adapter when it's not needed (Amazon do not ship a power supply with their newer Kindle) or just provide an AC adapter with a USB port so you can just swap the cable and use it with multiple devices.
I hate the fixed cable types - usually the cable is either too long or not long enough - I have very short iPhone 'dock' cables and Micro USB cables when travelling and longer ones when at home and the charger is plugged in near the floor and I want the cable to reach onto the desk.
Re: Standard connectors...
Hmm, either you're talking bollocks or your HTC device is broken.
My HTC Desire, Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7 all charge with the same cable quite happily. The cable is usually plugged into the USB socket of the iPad PSU that lives on my desk, too.
Stop quibbling!
Apple or Android, both are still much, much better than the turd called Windows Phone.
Re: Stop quibbling!
vvhich you know nothing about except for reviews by people you hate anyway, right Barry?
So the Official Rumours are starting to come out...
... but what happens after we hit the Shoe Event Horizon?
People are religitards when it comes to Apple kit - but not entirely illogical. Android is worshipped by thems that loves freedom (openness sense), and Android is the least of the evils here. Both "just work" and have an abundance of high quality, mature apps.
Obviously the part of the market where people love their phone kit or want a phone with lots of mature apps that just works, is all sewn up, aint it?
Then there are the Blackberry faithful, a fading group but they're there. Ditto Symbian and Meego lovers - Meego phones may resurface, possibly.
So where does that leave another, wannabe player with no taste and an unkool in a bad way, grey spreadsheet maker reputation? Say, er, Microsoft?
WinPho/Metro - these garner an appeal that runs the gamut stretching from indifference spanning to WTF contempt. How clever of Microsoft to differentiaate themselves thus in the market place!
Christ on a bike
Your English teacher is currently cutting him/herself somewhere, I fear. No idea what you were trying to say, but I got a headache trying to parse it :)
Phone calls are so 1990.
I bet you choose a computer based on how much it feels like a typewriter don't you?
Apple haters say 'hype' every time a new phone is about to come out - how many times are you going to keep saying that until you realise some people like their iPhones - in fact a LOT of people do - not just 'sheep' and 'barristers' - many people do not feel the need to root their device - they want a smart phone that works well and is easy to use.
I want you to imagine you are a 12 year old with no social skills. Now imagine you have that mind set but in the body of a 25-35 year old body, but still a virgin due to still lacking social skills.
Now, wouldn't you be angry against anything that was popular?
So you are saying buy an iPhone and get laid - sounds fair after all everyone knows you get an iPhone and you are instantly better looking, more intelligent and successful.
Not necessarily, (however when getting phone numbers of potential partners, it does help if your phone:
a) works reliably
b) is quick and easy to enter numbers, particularly while intoxicated
c) has a good cloud based backup system in case you lose it / drop it in beer
d) doesn't advertise that you are a miserable nerd with no social skills and misplaced priorities as you have to borrow their iPhone to be able to SSH into your own phone to unlock it.
...so I suppose yes, in a way the iPhone platform does facilitate getting laid.
Owning an iPhone does not make you better looking, more intelligent and successful - it just so happens that attractive, successful and intelligent people buy iPhones.
Easy to use?
Despite having frequently "used" (or at least, set up) iOS devices for years, I think they're the least logical or easy to use out there. Unfortunately, their poor UI design has had a poisonous influence on most of the other devices available...
Re: Easy to use?
...are you suggesting that Google have ... COPIED elements of iOS..?
Blasphemy!
Apple releases are a bigger deal than Android - new Android phones come out all the time from different manufacturers - not saying it's a bad thing but makes it more fragmented. If Android did one release a year there would be more made of it.
Android users seem to have to hate on Apple but I do not see it so much the other way - just remember we all have choice.
"Android users seem to have to hate on Apple but I do not see it so much the other way"
Absolutely -
Ask an iPhone user which phone to buy - they will spend the time telling you why they like the iPhone.
Ask an Android user which phone to buy - they spend the time telling you why you shouldn't buy an iPhone.
Buy a Windows Phone
... and they'll actually explain to you why the Windows Phone is good.
Sorry. But considering the amount of bashing the WP7 gets, I couldn't resist.
Re: Buy a Windows Phone
I can honestly say I have never encountered anyone with a Windows Phone.
Surely posting on a IT site like the Reg you see your self as having abit more computer knowledge than the average sheep etc So why go on about how apple is for joe blogs and the common idiot so much? let them enjoy their fart apps and facebook. Admire apple for being able to exploit idiots who really dont need a new phone queuing for it nights before its launch.
As a designer/developer I use my iphone for helping out on design and dev stuff, project management etc and im sure there are equally helpful android apps. Point Is, we are the super users and the public are the shit munchers.
Whatever your platform choice, we are the supreme looking down on the public idiots, stop bitching like little school girls.
Getting mad at hype about the new iphone? you try making a phone and marketing it so well.
Apple
I will certainly be buying an iPhone as my next upgrade...why??
It just frikken works
Re: Apple
Unless you hold it wrong, apple cock up their DRM on their itunes server, the screen goes yellow, the battery explodes...
Yay
So I can have a shiny new iPhone, except:
- it won't plug into my car stereo
- it won't plug into my various iPod docks
- it won't share charging cables with my iPad or other iPhones in the house
Why the change, and will there be an adapter for older accessories?
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