Tablets, copycats and Weird Al Yankovic
"They are not as cool." With these five words, Judge Colin Birss became Samsung's friend and tormentor in one. He had just found in the company's favour in its defence against Apple but ruined the moment for Samsung by hinting that the Galaxy Tab was, well, a bit crap compared to an iPad. Apple iPad Cool tablet Birss …
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Personally...
I'd rather be fully functional than "cool" any day...
Well, because it'll soon be beer time.
Anorak != Uncool
You'd be surprised how many people wear them. Rugged outdoor clothing is not just the domain of trainspotters and star trek addicts.
Re: Uncool != Crap
I was surprised when that I put a Peter Storm Pak-a-mak on eBay, it fetched £35 last year. Bizarre.
Obviously! please grow up or sod off.
Missing the point
The judge's comment has pulled the rug out from under Apple or perhaps more accurately, the curtain from in front of the wizard. Apple may be "cool" but this is an entirely subjective judgement and no defence in court. It gave the judge his fifteen minutes of fame but it is the precedent set by his judgement that will be remembered years from now.
Erk! I've just read the Daily Heil!
Alistair,
You've just made me read the Daily Mail, and now I must cleanse my mind with bleach. Or possibly beer...
However I was very tickled, amongst all the fakes, by Dolce & Banana.
Re: Erk! I've just read the Daily Heil!
Also, I'd forgotten about all those dreadful iMac style peripherals. Not only were a lot of them both crap and hideous, as you say, but they also clashed really badly with my beige PC...
Re: Erk! I've just read the Daily Heil!
I remember being in a Best Buy in Chicago and laughing at the iMac styled microwave ovens, toasters, and irons
Ohh
I still have that scanner, but I was cheap so I got the white plastic one :(
Relative Worth
The Judge's comments are worth more to Apple than any amount of money spent on marketing. Well worth the squashing of a few patents to them, I'd imagine.
Re: Relative Worth
And your reasoning for this is?
I think it is exactly the opposite as hipsters like to be the outsiders so Samsung will now be on their shopping list
Young people (Apples primary market) don't really want to be seen with something that Grandad thinks is cool. If the olds are getting in on the act in won't take much for the fickle youth market to move to something different.
Re: Relative Worth
>Young people (Apples primary market)
Evidence please? You may be right, but it sounds like an assumption. Cheers!
Re: Relative Worth
No assumption, look at the advertising. It's all about being hip and cool and young. They have never done an advert showing someone in their 30s working on a spreadsheet.
uncool, why not
if Samsung had enough guts, they'd turn this story into a tongue in cheek advertising campaign: Our bestest uncoolest product, as per the "Samsung v. Apple", case No...
yes, a bit risky, but they had something similar already, was in Nissan, or Toyota? The car they don't want you to drive? (and they didn't ;)
Well, maybe they didn't, but then, how come I see that... horribly bland vehicle still on the roads?
Similar situation, I think, was when Anheauser-Busch sued over rights to the Budweiser name in the UK to try to get Budvar-Budweiser to drop the Budweiser name and Budvar counter claimed that they owned the name. From what I recall having read the Judge eventually ruled that both companies could continue to use the name as it was unlikely that no beer/larger drinker was likely mistake one type of Budweiser for the other!
The "not as cool" thing...
...was the judge taking the piss out of Apple's pompousness.
And as for: "It’s about time the IT industry faced up to the fact that everything they do is derivative."
iMac copies? I definitely remember the way everyone+dog started to produce thei peripherals in semi translucent blue packaging .... however, due to the lead time in doing this the new products seemed to arrive on the market at almost precisely the time that Apple started to produce iMacs in a number of different colours!
Also, at the same time adding "i" in front of a name seemed to take over from adding "v" or "e" which had in the previous couple of years been the way to make some boring name look "cutting edge"
Lead time
There is very little lead time if all you are doing is putting a different colour of plastic pellet in the hopper of your injection mould.
Re: Lead time
...and shipping it on a slow boat from China.
Transport lead time alone is 6-8 weeks.
Will it really make a difference?
Honestly I don't think the judges comments will make a difference one way or another on the market at large. True the kids won't want something that some old fuddy duddy of a judge thinks is cool, but how many of them are going to know about the judgement? For that matter how many adults are going to know about it? Patent warfare isn't exactly popular reading when you get outside of the tech sector.
Re: Will it really make a difference?
You're right, we need to make it viral so word gets around
Cool is just so uncool.
Daft kids trying to be cool don't know any better and think that happiness will only be evident if they are cool (popular).
If you are an adult trying to be cool (and the worst example buying apple product to make people think your cool), then it would seem your trying to be younger than you are, which is a totally uncool.
If cool is popular, then being uncool is cooler than cool.
As for a JUDGE even using the word cool makes those trying to attain such status so uncool.
Some adults don't have the inclination to learn about the technology, but they keep reading about these newfangled iPad things in the Telegraph, and they have the ready cash in their back pocket (unlike most youngsters)... They don't buy one because they are 'cool' but rather on the assumption that if lots of people have one, they must work without too much hassle.
My old man uses his Tab 10.1 for precisely three things:
-looking at photos from his camera, via SD Card adaptor.
-Google maps (but only on the continent)
-watching videos of Adolf Hitler being told things his doesn't like.
Since when did judges decide what is and what is not cool?
Traditionally (in the UK anyway, perhaps it's not as bad in the US) judges are hopelessly out of touch, e.g. "Who is Gazza" at the height of Paul Gasgoigne's fame.
**LINK WARNING: DO NOT READ THE PANEL ON THE RIGHT**
Why would you right that? It's like telling someone 'don't push the red button!'.
Mac System 7 and Windows 2.0 - by any chance related?
I thought it was obvious they're both visually improved copies of Win8 Metro?
Panel on the right
much more interesting than whatever was on the left. Carmen Electra is 40? Damn, time sure moves quickly.
"It was a bit like a judge finding you innocent of adultery because you’re too ugly to score."
Thank you, Alistair. That quote had me laughing for a couple of minutes.
I know, this is tangential to the article. But its always great to start the weekend smiling.
Re: and,..
The one and only time I ever used GEM was to do a review of Ventura Publisher. Using GEM was never as good as the screenshots made it look.
I think all the fuss about "not cool" being a liability for Samsung is just noise being generated to obscure what really happened: the court ruled that the Samsung tablets is no more a copy of the iPad than the iPad is of a bunch of other designs. What amused me most was the judge talking about how the Samsung tablets seemed somehow "too thin", which we all know is a bit of an unusual perspective on mobile electronics!
Excellent line, Mr Dabbs
I actually stopped caring about the topic in question when I came across this line:
It's probable that Windows 2.0 and the Macintosh OS looked the same to a computer virgin, but to those who actually use computers - usually virgins in a more conventional sense..
Hahaha - those are the lines I love. Thumbs up.
Problem with those examples is,
that they are all genuinly inferior to the real item.
However the Tab is actually vastly superior to the iPad3.
"The U800..."
"possibly the most unusable atrocity ever to claim the moniker of 'mobile phone'."
Never used a U800 but not sure it's even possible to get worse than the HTC Touch Pro 2 that work forced on me. We called it the anti-productivity device. Bar none, it was the worst consumer electronic device I have ever used... but does make a decent toy for the three year old now.
Hipster fa**ots!!
What's wrong with Weird Al?
Have some 1999s goodness when a Pentium was hot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos
Weird Al
Weird Al is cool!
Trust me, I work in government IT.
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