Brits get to fondle Google Nexus 7 slab in just a fortnight
Now that Google is in tablets, it's clearly hoping to make its mark quickly, lining its Nexus 7 tablet up for shipping in the UK in two to three weeks. The Nexus fondleslab was spotted lurking in pre-order form on the Play store at £159 for its 8GB version, but no sign of the 16GB one yet. According to the site, the gear is …
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Re: $49 for 8GB
I'm a real bastard for wanting a lot of files on a device so I can access them, say a whole series of Family Guy to watch while in several long journeys without going back to my storage at home....nope, won't fit on 8 gig. and I don't want to pay £40 for 8 gig more storage so a £13 32GB micro SDHC card would've done me fine.
Re: $49 for 8GB
"Here’s the reality of unified storage: Drunk knocks pint of beer over ‘unified’ device, all photos, videos, books, music, notes, child’s favourite drawings, game saves etc DISAPPEAR."
All of this is backed up though, surely? Use something that autosyncs over wifi to networked storage when charging (plenty of options on Play), or some cloud service and you never have to worry about that.
Understand some would want loads of media on such a device when travelling etc., but that's just not what I see the Nexus 7 being aimed at. This is for a bit of surfing on the couch or letting the kids play games on.
If you want a full media tablet then surely something like an Archos packing an HDD is more suitable?
Re: $49 for 8GB
Sync everything to your google account/cloud services then? hardly rocket science, that's what "the cloud" is there for. I left my phone in a taxi a weeks ago, new one on insurance arrived, set my google account and sync apps up...hey presto everything is back and i have a nice new phone (Without a big dent in the top...which was an added bonus)
Re: $49 for 8GB
surely you back all your important memories to some sort of NAS device (also backed up - to the cloud maybe?) rather then relying on a phone/tablet/laptop to hold them all.
I think the reason not to have the sdcard slot is manifold, cost, FAT patents, content from google store and push people to use google drive.
If your device is mostly always connected to the internet and Drive (dropbox, cx, box etc) then why do you need extra on device storage?
Why no microsd?
And why stop at 16GB, where are the 32 and 64GB versions.
And it's less than £1 per GB for class10 cards retail, so why is the additional 8GB costing £40?
USB Question
Anyone know if this will support USB on the go, i.e external USB storage via the mini USB.
Be interesting to know if it can be used with a 3G USB (with a bit of hacking) ?
On the whole I think this is a good device (on paper) but a disappointment that there is no SD slot.
Re: USB Question
Maybe with a custom ROM like the HTC One X.
When will we have Jelly Bean ROMs however is another question. Is the source out yet?
Re: USB Question
Just been looking this up - the (rather pathetic) user guide says you can connect USB keyboard/mouse/joystick etc 'with an adapter' (and recommends powered hub for multiple peripherals) so I guess host mode is available.
I'm unsure whether host mode and OTG adapter = USB storage support, but I'm one step closer to an impulse buy.
For 3g, I'd stick to wireless tether via my phone, 'cos it's simple and I already pay for bandwidth.
Interesting little device
Will have a think once reviews come out, but right from the go:
- No SD card
- No replaceable battery
- No Flash player
- Proprietary dock connector
will surely put off a lot of people around here who are very keen on those features.
Re: Interesting little device
Dear "Metavisor",
Micro-USB is not proprietary, it's actually something of a standard on our planet.
Re: Interesting little device
Micro-USB is not the dock connector on the Nexus 7.
Go look at it again.
Re: Interesting little device
Did you just describe the Nexus or the iPad with your list of flaws?
Re: Interesting little device
Yes it is. You seem to have difficulty differentiating between the Nexus 7 and an iPad.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10012770-3.html
Re: Interesting little device
Both. Did I say they are flaws? I meant they were frequent complaints around here.
Personally I'm interested in the Nexus 7.
Re: Interesting little device
Someone with more than three braincells can still install flash and a compatible browser from the Play store, but hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good whine.
BTW, it has a micro-USB port too.
Still, facts, eh?
Re: Interesting little device
@AC: The dock connector is shown here: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/nexus7hnandson03.jpg
Re: Interesting little device
@AC number 2: Flash is not support in Android 4.1 or the Chrome browser.
You'd know that if you had more than three braincells.
Re: Interesting little device
The dock connector is microUSB, you plonker:
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10012770-3.html
Re: Interesting little device
No, the dock connector is those 4 contacts.
Hint: Have you seen how the Galaxy Nexus connects to its dock? It's not microUSB either.
Re: Interesting little device
And here's the Galaxy Nexus dock:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-D1F8BEBSTD
See those 3 pogo pins? Now they're 4. Again, that's the DOCK connector.
Re: Interesting little device
Whether it is "support" (sic) or not, you can download it from Google Play.
Flash
@Jaques: Not for Android 4.1 you can't. The Flash player installer is OS specific.
Adobe said Android 4.0 was the last version that would have Flash and again said that the Android Chrome browser was not going to get it either.
The Nexus 7 runs Android 4.1 and Chrome is now the default system browser. So no it won't run Flash.
Re: Flash
Hmm, are you totally sure that it's not just the last one that *comes with* flash?
Not, I have to say, that it's a huge loss. I keep it turned off on my Android devices, good riddance to bad rubbish and so on.
Re: Interesting little device
please everyone stop confusing those three little pins with the USB connection, they are completely separate,
the pins are primarily there to provide a power connection when the device is placed in the dock, exactly the same as on the galaxy Nexus phone, so that you do not need to plug the us cable in simply to change the devices (so you can still plus in USB for something esle if needed)
Dock connector
Not just power, I was looking into this the other day and there's several threads over on XDA.
The three pins on the Galaxy Nexus are: Ground, Data (1.8v), Power (+5v).
The Data pin is bidirectional and used to communicate with the dock to determine charging speed, audio sending and the type of dock. If agreed with the dock, audio can also sent in SPDIF format through the data pin.
It is very much a fully grown dock connector, only without the USB data part. Do wonder what Google are doing with the 4th extra pin for this one.
Re: Dock connector
yes thats true & why i said primarily for power, the (current) dock has no other 'data' output connections tho so its not to be confused with the separate USB connection as some posters were seemingly doing.
and yes the fourth pin in intrugiung.....
Re: Flash
@metavisor
It may work on 4.1 but the results could be unpredicable:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adobe.flashplayer
Re: Flash
Thanks AC for posting that link which says at the very top:
"*** NOTE: FLASH PLAYER IS NO LONGER BEING UPDATED FOR NEW DEVICE CONFIGURATIONS. FLASH PLAYER WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED ON ANY ANDROID VERSION BEYOND ANDROID 4.0.x ***"
You'll find that the OS included on this tablet is Android 4.1, which IS beyond 4.0.x.
Buy hey there's always miracles and wouldn't be the first time Adobe changed direction. But for now it's very unlikely.
Re: Flash
@metavisor
Supported does not mean work, you could install another browser that supports flash and I'm sure there will be custom ROMs (assuming it is rootable) appearing that will support flash.
Re: Interesting little device
I'm confused...the "dock" you linked is just a charging stand it seems, however you can still use the standard "dock connector" the micro USB one, there's a choice of one or the other, see? So while there is a proprietary dock connector, there's also a STANDARD one too.
Re: Interesting little device
Fandroid handbags at 10 paces.
Look out everyone!
Re: Interesting little device
I thought you said someone with more thaN three bracelets .. is this a new reg std for inetlligence?
I like the look of this .. but maybe I should spend the money on a haway g300 and a new CPU instead? pat certainly thinks so, but ricky and bianca want one of these ..
When Surface was announced people in my office were talking about it. Not heard a peep about this announcement. I don't want to be either an MS or Apple fanboi, but as somebody else said - meh, another 7" tablet.
Probably going to be the best 7" available for the price/quality, but what people really want is an iPad alternative (good build quality, tablet specific apps, and expandable memory!).
this is 2012
There are quite a lot of tablet-specific Android apps.
(Which always catches me out when I want the same things on my Android 4.0 phone as on my iPad 3, find them on the app store, and ne dice pas)
better than I thought
as the original "leaks" suggested this toy wouldn't even come with BT and GPS.
That said, it pisses me off they - clearly for profit reasons - didn't include the sd / micro sd / whatever expansion. So if I go for it, it will definitely be an 8 Gb.
As to the arguments about removability of sd cards, this is nonsense, sd slot is not to fiddle with the card, it's there to provide a lot of cheap storage.
It's also a shame they didn't include a 3G /sim card slot. This would have cost more than a couple of quid, but still, wifi coverage - sucks - unless you stay within the range of your home router.
Overall, not as bad as I thought. And, on a more general note, this tablet will force other manufacturers to react. The prices of cheapo tablets, generally with poorer specs, should drop soon, as they're going to have to clear the stock, to make room with something with better specs, to compete with google tablet. And then, for the same price, they should offer us, those whingers, what google wouldn't, i.e. sd slot and built in 3G. The only issue is quality, I don't expect that to get better ;)
Re: better than I thought
3G/sim card slot
With a slot you need two contracts (phone and tablet), much simpler and cheaper to just teether to your phone and pull the data from there.
Re: better than I thought
Why do you need a 3G card in a tablet? Use your Android phone, set up a Wifi hotspot and feed your tablet from there on the go. The most solid reason I had to drop my iPhone when the contract ended and go Android, just so I had the ability to supply a Wifi hotspot to any device I had on me that needed it. I sometimes go away for a few days at a time shooting landscape photos and I am not paying the stupid prices motels want for Wifi access just so I can lookup a few maps.
Re: better than I thought
Why not do the same with your iPhone? I got a £10.00 SIM from T-Mobile and can tether whatever I like to it......
If I didn't already have a Transformer and a One X I would be looking at one of these, looks like a great bit of kit.
For storage there are a number of wifi/bluetooth battery powered hrd drives coming onto the market soon (or already here) which you can keep in your bag and read from whilst using the tablet.
At the risk of being accused of being a lazy bastard, do you have some links for devices like that? Interest piqued :)
Saw them at the gadget show, not cheap yet and you cannot write to them via wifi, but this should be changing with updated firmware. I was most interested in the idea of using a wifi sdcard in a camera to auto copy the snaps to the hard drive whilst I took photos, but that's not possible yet.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/seagates-goflex-satellite-portable-hard-drive-streams-content-o/
Scan have them at £175
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/500gb-seagate-goflex-satellite-wireless-25-external-hdd-wifi-and-usb-30-black-ipad-iphone-android-pc
you are lazy bastard: http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/goflex-satellite/
Thanks for the links to external wireless storage, you guys have a much better natural language parser than Google <3
What would be nice is a root user hack that allowed it to run as a USB host- thoug of course, that would need a slightly fancy lead rather than the standard MicroUSB-USB that you normally use with the thing.
At that price, and not as your main phone, it would be a lot less worrying to root, at least :)
Re: -1
Which makes everyone here who wants a Nexus a Google troll. YEAH.
Really want one!
I reaaaaaaally want one. I honestly don't care if it only has 16GB at max, because I probably won't use all that space anyway. Most of the stuff I listen too, or read is either in the cloud or on the web.
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