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All the details you've read about Google's Nexus 7 are true - if an allegedly leaked training document is genuine. The bumf landed on a desk at Gizmodo Australia and details a 7in tablet with a 1280 x 800 IPS LCD display and based around a 1.3GHz Nvidia Tegra 3 chip. There's 1GB of Ram and either 8GB or 16GB of on-board storage …

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7" payment system?

Didn't think a tablet needed to replace one man's 3rd leg? Anyway, another fandroid fail to create any interest unless the software is going to be able to read my mind.

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Fail

Yet another tablet where they don't realise that 4:3 actually works much better on a device where you might want to read a web page in portrait mode. The iPad and the HP Touchpad understand this but the majority of Android tablets are still 16:9. Probably because the screens are cheaper or easier to get hold of.

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Re: Fail

But, but, but... How are you going to rework your opinion when Apple introduces a 16:9 (or similar) iPhone in the fall? Will it then be the bestest idea in the whole wide world and Android just copied Apple?

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Re: Fail @AC

The iPhone was never 4:3 to begin with, so no problem there...

At screen sizes and most use cases of the iPad, 4:3 does make sense for portrait use since it's the closest to a sheet of paper.

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Re: Fail

16:10 or 4:3 does work better for tabletly things. You don't need to be an iOS user to know that, but just be someone who has used a netbook. The only downer to 16:10 is that it is usually width, not height, that determines which pockets the device can be put in.

Its in the interest of Android users to make the point if they want it.

(sent from my 16:10 Dell)

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Re: Fail

>Yet another tablet where they don't realise that 4:3 actually works much better on a device where you might want to read a web page in portrait mode.

Web pages are tall - and the people designing these devices have used an iPad.

>Probably because the screens are cheaper or easier to get hold of.

Yep, that'll be the reason....nothing to do with widescreen, 'cos that'll never catch on. One day all screens will be 4:3, Apple are just trail blazing as usual.

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no... nothin

no SD / micro SD slot.

no GPS.

no 3G.

no mini/micro/nano USB

therefore

no OTG

no camera (f... the camera, who cares ;)

shame, because battery life, processor and resolution are... well, decent. And because it's google there will be lots of mods. But the above no-no list, or most of it, makes it a no-buy. But then, do I need one? No. Do I want one? Well, to read, and for kids to play with doodles.

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Re: no... nothin

GPS is largely irrelevant in a tablet since they are used almost exclusively indoors. 3G is largely irrelevant too because most people will use them with wifi and if they needed 3G could turn their phone into a portable hotspot, or buy a mifi device and probably for less than integrated 3G.

It will have to offer USB in some form even if its through an adapter. More serious is lack of micro SD if it lacks one of those. I think it's incredibly cynical to charge $49 extra for a poxy 8GB extra RAM.

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Re: no... nothin

Couldn't disagree more.

My 7inch tablet has been everywhere with me, it's been up mountains, kayaking, cycling, golfing and done lots of kms in the car. Yes 3G and GPS were an absolute requirement.

A 7inch tablet remains a very portable device, you may not use it that way but it is important to realise that others do or might.

( I have moved on to the Galaxy Note because the screen definition alows be to do all of the above, relatively confortably, in a slightly smaller package. )

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Re: no... nothin

I was just about to say have you tried the note? Pretty much ticks all your boxes except it is a tad smaller - not too much mind.

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Err...7' Tabs MUST have GPS and 3G to be genuinely useful

Mine goes everywhere with me. Used as a phone (although mainly texting), On the move mail, Calendar, Organizer, Map reader, Car Navigation etc..Same size as a Filofax and infinitely more useful. nobody complained about carrying them around..

The whole point of 7' size tabs is their portability otherwise get a 10' one. Heck it will even slip into my other-halfs handbag if ask nicely...

No SD card is also a bit of a bummer as well..7' Tabs also make very nice portable music/movie players..

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Re: no... nothin

"My 7inch tablet has been everywhere with me, it's been up mountains, kayaking, cycling, golfing and done lots of kms in the car. Yes 3G and GPS were an absolute requirement"

Then you're in a tiny minority. Anyone who wanted those things probably already has a smart phone that would provide them. 3G is available with mifi devices too and for much cheaper than tablets that bundle the 3G modem. Some tablets even support 3G dongles in USB master mode.

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"Err...7' Tabs MUST have GPS and 3G to be genuinely useful"

And you don't have a phone with this stuff. They really don't need this stuff, certainly not in a tablet which is aiming to be affordable.

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Re: no... nothin

ah, by my understanding of "portable" is a bit more extreme than moving my hairy ass from the shitter to the couch and back. Why would I want an oversized remote with an undersized screen, when I have, like a good consumer, I should have a gazilion-inch flatscreen telly and all other "essentials"? Maybe I don't expect to have a tablet with me on a 30 day ski touring trip on a glacier in a far, far away, but, you know, a bit further. than a my home router range, or a starbucks hotpoint.

I do realize though, this is way too extreme to venture outdoors for the general public though ;)

actually... I am trolling a bit, because there are decent tablets outthere, which tick most of "my" boxes. I was just hoping that Google would be a bit more... generous with the "consuming". Even if this costs me a little more.

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Re: no... nothin

@all the people who wander about a bit and are complaining of lack of GPS/GSM etc

You can already buy tablets that do exactly what you want. Why not buy one of them? Oh, hold on, you wanted the cheaper price. Has it occurred that this has a cheaper price BECAUSE it doesn't have those (less than useful to most people) features? So people who simply want a cheap indoor tablet can have one, and people who want a more full featured device can, well, just go out and spend a bit more to buy something else?

That said, I want uSD.

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a rather natty mini-iPad design

I haven't seen the mini-iPad.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: a rather natty mini-iPad design

Import iPad photo into photo editor, rescale to smaller size. Simples.

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Nexus 7 ?

They need to get Harrison Ford and/or Rutger Hauer to do the advertisements for it :-)

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Re: Nexus 7 ?

No. Rutger Haur would be the Daddy. Although, which model might Deckard have been? More advanced that is for sure...hmmmm.....

WHERE'S RIDLEY SCOTT?!?!?!

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re: WHERE'S RIDLEY SCOTT?!?!?!

Hammering nails into the coffin of the Alien franchise, last I heard.

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Re: re: WHERE'S RIDLEY SCOTT?!?!?!

Boo. Prometheus is brilliant. I disagree with your sentiments entirely...

Though technically I think Alien Ressurection hammered the nails in the coffin...

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I bought a tablet the other day

Capacitive, 1GB RAM, 8GB flash, 1.2ghz ARM, 7" display, HDMI output, USB, SD micro, VGA camera - £57 plus postage. The screen is a fairly crappy 800x400 resolution affair and the flash is a bit slow but for the price I can't complain and works well enough with most apps. I was able to flash it with a custom rom which so far is working admirably.

I would therefore expect that a branded tablet using higher grade components could comfortably sell for $200 or less.

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WTF? NFC?

So it's got a front camera, and no rear camera. That make sense, since who really wants to use a tablet sized device to take photographs (other than Galaxy S3 users, obviously).

But by the same measure, who's going to want to carry around a tablet and use that to pay for coffee and underground tickets? I can see NFC being a great addition to a phone, but on a tablet? really?

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Re: WTF? NFC?

The NFC there is probably to support Android Beam, the Android 4 feature that lets people share contacts or links to apps by touching the devices.

I don't think it'll be enabled for payments.

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Re: WTF? NFC?

NFC seems pretty pointless to me too. All I can think is perhaps it comes free with the radio module they use for the wifi / bluetooth so why not support it.

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Re: WTF? NFC?

a tablet has merits for this near field coms, you can clobber the poor sod across the counter with it, if this nfs doesn't work, while with a mobile, you can't even shove it up his arse, it will slip out sideways.

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Re: WTF? NFC?

Thanks for that what's what's-a-handle, I now consider tablets essential for NFC use!

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Unhappy

Give me strength

Ahhgggg.....and I am still waiting for my £249 Xoom to get the OTA update to ICS.

(Yes I know I can go to xda and do it myself, but why should I ...... ok that's my go at the google hardware mob moto out the way)

Back on topic. This tab does look a nice bit of kit for the dosh

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Devil

Why all the moaning about 3G ? I can use my Android smartphone as an access point - if you can't anage to set that up with your phone then you're on the wrong website.

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I bet you don't leave it doing that for very long, AP mode burns through the phone's batteries...

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*Throws money at screen*

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Anonymous Coward

Screen responds: Please use Google Wallet, sir

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