'Zombie bullets' fly off US shelves after wave of undead attacks
Special ammunition optimised for fighting zombies is selling like hot cakes in the USA, according to reports, following sensational media coverage of incidents involving flesh-eating and similar undead-esque behaviour. In particular, fears of an imminent zombie plague were stoked by the recent case of Rudy Eugene. The 31-year- …
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Re: Go backwards
Too far backwards - 12-pounders take too long to reload. I do rather like the chainshot option, though. :D
No - what you want is a nice old French 75mm model 1897. With cannister. 15 rounds per minute - aimed. Can easily be served by four persons (your typical family, for instance), and can be reasonably served by three, or even two in a pinch. Highly portable, fairly compact, will easily fit in a typical suburban garage, or in a larger garden shed. Doesn't even require motor transportation, for short-distance moves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_mod%C3%A8le_1897#Rapid_fire_capability
Re: 12 pounder cannon
While it is true that the 12 pounder cannon provides superior clearing capabilities, it is neither sufficiently mobile, nor does it have sufficient reload speed to be useful in an SZA (Sustained Zombie Assult). For maximum survivability the semi-automatic shot gun equipped with an ammo drum just can't be beat.
Whenever I read dum-dums my bind goes to In Bruge.
On the topic of best zombie fighting weapon? Best offense is a good defense. And best defense is a good offense. Gotta get some decent armor anywhere you're likely to be bitten, that's a leather jacket, gloves, shin pads, and steel toecap boots, preferably jeans also since leather slacks are a pain.
That way you can get up nice and close to them without worrying too much. That would be when the good ol' axe comes into play. Good for taking off limbs and heads.
Of course you don't want them to get that close in the first place, so I'd agree to a crossbow being useful too.
Sadly in the UK its pretty much impossible to get hold of a firearm (legally) but it is possible to get hold of a crossbow (sort of) hence my choices.
...decent armor...
Firefighters' bunker gear.
Tough, thick, and pretty much gnaw-proof.
Motorcycle Leather + MX helmet (better ventilation) and MX boots. Looks odd, but is fairly comfy, reasonable safe and easy to get hold of.
Forget the crossbow - a compound bow has perfectly adequate knock-down capability, and a MUCH greater rate of fire than a crossbow. PLus, if the vampires rise rather than zombies, it is really easy to switch to silver-tips, or just go for plain wooden shafts - try doing that with a 50-cal!
Melee weapons..
Anyone who argues that firearms are not the appropriate means is an idiot, using melee weapons opens you up to infection, not only are you more vulnerable to bites but the spatter of infected blood onto open wounds could transmit the infection and in a lawless and crumbling zombie apocalypse world you will pick up cuts and scrapes, be it from smashing shop windows to gather the delicious loot within or scrambling over walls to escape the rogue military seeking guineapigs to study the infection.
The correct tactic is to maintain distance when possible.
That said fire, without the arms, is a viable alternative and everyone loves setting fire to things.
Then there's electricity. You may not be able to neutralise an undead threat by stopping it's heart but you can burn away tissue and electricity is pretty. An anti-intrusion grid surrounding your compound would keep them at bay, provided you can keep it fed.
As a last resort you can indeed get very small shotgun rounds for pistols but they're not much use beyond 7-8m.
Re: Melee weapons..
the spatter of infected blood onto open wounds could transmit the infection
Or into the eyes or mouth or nose...you don't even need to be wounded. Actually, the whole melee weapon thing is one of the things of the list of zombie apocalypse survival techniques that will get you killed.
Other highlights include looting gun stores (gun store owners generally know how to use the guns and aren't squemish about using them to defend thier property) and setting a building up as a fortress (zombies don't need to eat, drink, or sleep and don't suffer from fatigue so trying to lock them out and outlast them is pretty stupid as a long term solution).
Re: Melee weapons..
"That said fire, without the arms, is a viable alternative and everyone loves setting fire to things."
Sure, if you prefer fighting burning zombies to fighting the regular type. World War Z teaches us that this is a bad idea.
Re: Melee weapons..
"Anyone who argues that firearms are not the appropriate means is an idiot"
Or lives in the UK, where they don't fall off trees.
I'm torn between the clear practicality of wearing mail and a respirator, and the need to run away.
My need for comfort wins out over any survival instinct, though. So I'd probably just have a respirator hand and wear light but fully covering clothing. And stick to weapons that are easy to use in close quarters, but not *too* messy. Something with a good edge, rather than blunt.
Hmmm... Maybe I should get onto one of those fantasy sword shops and design them a zombie killing sword to cash in on this...
Re: Melee weapons..
While we may not have easy access to firearms I know a junk shop near me stock full of air pistols and rifles, right there in the window and I doubt the proprietor would put up much of a fight when I smash through in a riot van borrowed from the cop shop down the road (I don't think there's much in the way of firearms out of this station but if I can get inside I may as well grab some tasers and CS while I'm there).
Pellets won't do much damage to a van either. I like my chances.
Now that I have some means of defending myself (or offending others as it were) I can go to the big station where there are more likely to be some real guns not to mention some proper armour (i.e. mail is stupid, stupid) As for respirators I think a sars-mask would be adequate, I find full respirators restrictive. Of course I don't intend to get close enough to inhale infected spray but I guess it's best to be careful.
Firearms are for wimps...
My old Precision Bass has a decal that says:
"This instrument kills fascists *and zombies*"
'nuff sed.
Re: Melee weapons..
simples, neptunic sharksuit, decent lowa's and a riot helmet for defense
for offence either my two and a half foot FuBar Utility Bar in the garage or i also like the Gator Machete Pro as used on the docu-history drama "walking dead". that'd do till i could get down the local TA centre and raid its armoury on the way up to caerphilly castle,
not that i've thought about this much. honest guv'nor the missus doesn't have instructions to chop out the stairs if we have an infestation of romero slow walkers, if its the fast fukcers though we're all done mind..
Seriously?
I've seen the whole 'zombie apocalypse in Florida' thing in the news, but I've been taking it as a joke and giving it a good chuckle. Sure, I have a zombie apocalypse kit as recommended by the CDC, but really it's just a general emergency kit in case a tornado rips through town or the local river suddenly rises 20 or 30 feet. I would suggest anyone who takes this thing seriously enough to go out and buy special ammo get their heads examined as such a person would seem to have trouble seperating fantasy from reality.
Re: Seriously?
My thoughts exactly.
It's been a good laugh and everything, but the whole "let's treat zombies as a real-life threat" joke has gotten old.
Zombies are not real. Anyone found eating another's face is just a common garden crazy person. They are not a zombie. If you are buying real bullets to shoot zombies, then you are also a crazy person who shouldn't own a gun. I am far more concerned about meeting you than I am about meeting a zombie.
Re: Seriously?
Ah, you mean Americans and computer hackers / nerds!
Re: Seriously?
Eh?
How do we know you are not one of them trying to keep us from buying ammo for effective defense?? How many Reg readers are now going to be zombified because they believed you, and like they say: "when seconds count, help (the ammo store) is minutes away"?
Zombies ARE Real....
And they're everywhere...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/zombie
See definition 2.a
Re: Seriously?
Are you seriously thinking that people are buying zombie ammo to kill zombies? Seriously?
Sure
Dust off and nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Re: Sure
Absolutely! Nuke 'em till they glow then shoot them in the dark.
Unless you're one of the following
a) in the wilderness blowing the brains out of some furry critters for fun and/or profit ( not great but some people like it doing it )
b) big on properly organised and controlled target shooting
c) holding up banks ( fun and/or profit I suppose! )
d) in law enforcement stopping aforementioned tooled up bank robbers
The only other reason to own a gun is because you're some retarded, emotionally stunted, penile envious deviant who feels the only way they can prove their gutless, pitiful worth in life is by jamming the barrel of some cold-steel up another poor human beings snout!
Unless you're one of the following:
a) Pansy
b) Weeping Vagina
c) Total Pansy
d) Anonymous Coward
There's no reason not to have a gun.
You've led a sheltered life
e) because you want to.
f) because you lived through the Watts (or any other) riots, or know someone who didn't
Actually, I'm not retarded, emotionally stunted, or a penile envious deviant, and what's the point of sticking a gun in someone's mough unelss you're using their head as a silencer?
You forgot one:
e) Concerned about the possibility of being attacked by a some retarded, emotionally stunted, penile envious deviant who feels the only way they can prove their gutless, pitiful worth in life is by jamming the barrel of some cold-steel up another poor human beings snout.
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"Unless you're one of the following:
a) Pansy
b) Weeping Vagina
c) Total Pansy
d) Anonymous Coward
There's no reason not to have a gun."
Actually, I would say anyone who has the desire to own a gun, shouldn't own a gun. Bunch of redneck pricks the lot of yer.
I'm more of a tower defence kind of guy.
Already have planned how to block off my stairwell, and I also have at least 2 weeks of food in the house.
My plan involves waiting it out for a couple of weeks and then firing up the motor and getting the hell out of dodge. Of course some of you might think the sitting and waiting method is a bit fool hardy. And i have to agree to some extent. But with all the zombie madness outside I can safely say the first week would be almost impossible to survive if you left the house. Much better to wait it out and let the bulk of the Z heads meander to the next feeding station.
this is just going to fuel yet another zombie-human arms race that ultimately no-one wins
I'm with Muddy Waters
"I got an axe handle pistol on a graveyard frame,
Shoots tombstone bullets, and a ball and chain."
That'll stop 'em
Sod this for a lark
You lot do the manly thing and stay to shoot at them, I'll do my Rincewind impression and go in the other direction.
Re: Sod this for a lark
problem with that is you will eventually be surrounded... then what?
And this is why...
...here in Las Vegas we have a shop called the "Zombie Apocalypse Store"
I for one...
...live in Blighty, own 3x shotguns and have a plan to barricade myself in my house for a month with a goodly supply of Calor gas, food etc (and the trusty generator if the power goes out), then go find a nice island off the coast of Cornwall/Devon/Wales which I can easily cleanse and then survive off the land until such time as the crisis is over.
Welcome to canada
This is a Canadian style survival kit .... the strange thing is that they only offer 40 shots hmmmmm
http://www.canadaammo.com/product.php?productid=611&cat=3&page=1
Re: Welcome to canada
It's in .223, bolt action and a four round mag....
Re: Welcome to canada
I believe the word I was searching for is ... uh ... "stupid".
Talk about separating fools from their money!
The stuff is flying off the shelves because it is identical to Hornady's standard self-defense loadings but is selling for $5 less per box.
Correct + Scatter Guns
That was my first thought! I used to go to Arizona every year and shoot Prairie Dogs and always used Hornady rounds. The fact the 'anti-zombie' stuff is so much cheaper makes me feel a little bit ripped off.
For self defense pistol ammo I always use the Speer Gold Dot .45ACP but that's not good for critters , crackheads, zombies, or douchey software developers unless you're already being eaten by them.
There's not much that will withstand a large bore shotgun blast at short(ish) ranges. At 7 feet a COTS 12 Gauge bird round will make a 1.5' diameter hole completely through a car door and tear up the seat and dash too. No need for special ammo for zombies if you're going to use a shotgun.
Re: Correct + Scatter Guns
Hornady is good stuff usually so I hope they are not cheaping out with crummy powder or reduce the size of the load to reduce the price.
The "Zombie Killer" ammo promotion is a great excuse for a sale. Seems that it may eventually become a collectors item some day because of the graphics on the box. Just look at what early 1900 ammo posters go for.
BTW, does anyone understand that the whole "Zombie" thing is kind of a tongue in cheek reference to "undesirables" of just about anykind, especially those that show up at your bunker or compound in Wyoming or Idaho looking for handouts after this whole shell game of an economy collapses?
As any fool kno:
The correct defence (en-US defense) against zombies is to surround one's homestead with treadmills.
Mine's the one with the gym membership in the pocket.
Re: As any fool kno:
Plus you get free electricity for recharging your tablet, which you'll need when the fools at the electricity company try defending the place with guns.
When you need more electricity for cooking (or powering up your old G5), just play a zumba track.
RE: Bootnote
Missed the boat on this one. The plastic insert is NOT for streamlining the round. The point of the insert is to allow uniform expansion of the round upon impact. If you look at the difference between straight hollow points vs nosler style rounds you can see the benefit. A typical hollow point usually expands in an irregular manner or fragments on entry. The nosler style provides a wider expansion, maximizing target damage.
/ammo nerd hat off
now, where is my Glock...Time to go kill some zombie.
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