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Samsung's Galaxy S III is one of the most feature-stuffed smartphones yet. Well, at least there’s room, as it's equipped a 4.8in screen. Samsung's Galaxy Note 5.3in tablet-phone aside, this handset touts the largest display you'll find on a mainstream mobile and it packs a quad-core CPU too. Samsung Galaxy S III Android …

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Trollface

Re: 100%?

It is missing the NoWin or Apple brand. Is there any other reason why this phone only has 15% more than the stillborn Lumia 900?

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Re: 100%?

that's reserved for the version that runs on the dual-krait processors.

wait for the Sony Xperia GX SO-04D, or try and source a SIII from across the pond where it comes with the qualcomm S4 processor.

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Eyes's glinting

What happens when one wears shades ?

Also what happens when I light a ciggy putting my phone down in the process, that is encrypted with the compulsory letters and number combination for the password on the lock screen? I put the phone down, light the fag and then have the bloody thing turn off and have to enter the lock screen. I have an S II which has rubbish battery life and a screen so big that entering the lock code with one hand frequently means it presses shift or settings with my palm, it also crashes far more often after the ICS upgrade and does odd things like refuses to find the GPS and overheats in a car window mount. AND the SIII is plastic ? Give me an aluminium honey comb grid on the back as a heat sink, a big battery so I don't need the lock screen on every 15 seconds to save power and for security, and don't give me wallpaper on the apps screen where the app designers have no HID guidelines so the icons clash. I don't want a walled garden, I want a man's phone that is usable.

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Re: Eyes's glinting

Samsung might suggest you stop smoking as a way to get around one of your complaints there.

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Re: Eyes's glinting

As smoking is still legal I really rather doubt that.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Eyes's glinting

Cutting you nails with a lawnmower is legal too, but I suspect Black and Decker would suggest you don't do it.

Legal ≠ not stupid

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Re: Eyes's glinting

"I want a man's phone that is usable."

"a screen so big that entering the lock code with one hand frequently means it presses shift or settings with my palm"

You need a woman's phone.

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Re: Eyes's glinting

I believe you can set the phone not to lock immediately, but at a predetermined time after it automatically locks itself. I think mine is set to 30 seconds after auto-lock.

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Re: Eyes's glinting

As much as I'd like to disagree these are all points I have to concur with. I love my s2 though and happily put up with them. I prefer the freedom over a Jesus phone

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Re: Eyes's glinting

Samsung might suggest you stop smoking as a way to get around one of your complaints there.

Ah the same school of thought that came up with holding iPhones in a special grip or fitting 'em with a rubber sock to make 'em get a signal. An inconvenient and unwanted workaround to a core fuckup is not a fix.

My solution to this problem is to ensure that everything sensitive on my smartphone lives in an encrypted container and then to leave the ruddy password off the device. That way I get to use the regular functions by merely dabbing "unlock" and only have to type in a password when accessing data that actually warrants password protection. I've never understood the mentality of someone who's prepared to go through the pwd rigmarole just to make a phone call or look something up on the web.

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Looks like the perfect upgrade for my ageing Galaxy S but I'll wait for the blue ones to hit our fair shores. I don't do anything in white.

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Me neither. People might think it's an iPhone :(

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Completely NEW camera sensor

So why should we trust a review that says this is the same sensor??? This is a new camera, full 1080p video with still capture at the same time (never had this before) and full resolution burst mode, zero shutter lag with lots of new software features too.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Completely NEW camera sensor

Yes, had it been an Apple device they'd be banging on about how they "completly redisigned the camera with an all-new back-lit sensor and hybrid IR filter..."

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Voice

Good to see call quality warrants a one line entry near the end of the article. Has everyone forgotten these are still phones?

Makes you wonder how good audio could be, if it had advances at at the same rate as the "smart" features.

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Re: Voice

Also no mention of whether the loudspeaker might be audible while used a couple of feet away mounted to the dash in a car.

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Re: Voice

According to Vlad from TheVerge, the call quality is a revelation, absolutely stunning. Also camera is the best from any smartphone ever.

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Nokia may have something to say about that.

*cough* N8 *cough* Pureview.

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Re: Nokia may have something to say about that.

I suspect Sony (and SE) may have some input as well. Only reason I keep my Satio is it saves me buying a Digicam.

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Faster than Tegra3?

Is that what the graph was showing - that this is the very fastest smartphone in the world right now?

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Faster than Tegra3?

And yet the article states:

"The processor isn’t quite the fastest available"

WTF?

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Confused.com

If this is a 1.4GHz quad core vs the OneX 1.5GHz quad core with a companion core how does the Sammy get 12130 Antutu score yet the OneX a 10588?

(source - the OneX review: http://www.reghardware.com/2012/04/06/review_htc_one_x_android_smartphone/page2.html)

It's been a while but last time I looked bigger numbers usually mean better? Or is Antutu just a crap benchmarking app?

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Re: Confused.com

Yeah! Spill the beans El-Reg.

Just why is this model faster (by Antutu's standards) than the Nvidia Tegra 3?

Does the companion core just get in the way then!?

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Re: Confused.com

Presumably they're different chips with slightly different architectures and the OneX chip is actually slower. Or maybe HTC's software is getting in the way and slowing it down?

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Sigh.

This is an ARM device, there are many variants made by many manufacturers, they don't all work the same, which is why benchmarks are *more*& useful than GHz in this arena.

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Re: Confused.com

Don't forget about GPU and other capabilities.

Just because the CPU is faster in one device, doesn't mean it's faster overall. CPU probably only accounts for about a 3rd of the overall score in Antutu. (Obviously will differ from one device to the next).

If you assumed the CPUs were equal in every except the clock speed, 1.4 to 1.5GHz is barely noticeable statistically. A device usually has to be 30%+ faster to actually be noticeable to most peeps.

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Re: Confused.com

The processors are completely different, comparing the raw speed of different processors will not work and yes, Sammy's inhouse s4 is better than the tegra3.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Confused.com

I wouldn't trust Antutu. I just ran it after a reboot and got 12214. Waited 20 minutes and ran it again and got 10763. Looking at the rankings shows huge variations in the scores so I think either it's inaccurate or, more likely, what's running on your phone skews the results.

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Re: Confused.com

"It's been a while but last time I looked bigger numbers usually mean better?"

Was the purpose of this post to demonstrate that you know nothing about technology? That is all it accomplished.

Clock speed is one of the least important things in a processor, as anyone with a degree in Electrical Engineering knows.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Confused.com

"Clock speed is one of the least important things in a processor, as anyone with a degree in Electrical Engineering knows."

Er, I have a degree in Electronic Engineering, and I'll have to disagree with you on this. Yes, parallelism such as Superscalar technology plays a dominant part of modern processor design, but calling clock cycles the "least important thing" in a processor is a bit disingenuous. Clock speed is still a multiplier. If you're executing 3 instructions per clock, doubling clock speed will still double the number of instructions you're executing in a given period.

Yes, clock speed has historically been overemphasised by the media, but try explaining the benefits of increased parallelism to someone who just wants to buy a decent phone. Generally a higher frequency means a faster processor, even if the increased speed is also down to the extra development work us Engineers have put into the architecture.

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Anonymous Coward

I'll say again...

...you need to get surgery on your hands to use this phone if you want to get off on smut at the same time whilst in your bedroom in your parents house. Just saying =).

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Re: I'll say again...

It isn't an Apple phone so most of the users will have moved out of their parents houses by now.

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Galaxy s3

Yes, but will it blend?

P.

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Re: Galaxy s3

There are a million $$$'s worth of "QA failed" blue ones says they will.

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Coffee/keyboard

Re: Galaxy s3

Finally a sensible comment!

I knew if I stuck at reading the comments I would find one that I could agree with,

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Never owned a smartphone but

- comments like this put me off:

"And the battery lasts a full day with ease"

and in the Verdict:

"...outstanding battery life "

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Re: Never owned a smartphone but

These phones do more and as a result, battery life is the casualty. I'm sure we have all had an old Nokia that lasts a few weeks before demanding a good feeding, but, these phones are simply more useful and get a lot more use.

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double exposure...

Why does sample shot one seem to have a double exposure type thing going on?

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Anonymous Coward

Re: double exposure...

Looks like a reflection off a window in front of the camera to me. Other than that, the detail looks rather good.

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That's one FUGLY slice of polycarbonate

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Anonymous Coward

Oh, go fondle your iPhone.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Confused.com

Is it possible Antutu scores a smartphone on a range of tasks, not all of which rely solely on CPU speed? E.g. memory copy operations will in fact test memory bandwidth not CPU speed. Or graphically intensive tasks, which will test the GPU architecture.

I guess the individual benchmark scores would be interesting too then.

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Anonymous Coward

Also available in blue...

*That is once we've worked out our CAD versioning plan.

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Angel

So which is better, the One X or this?

Both got 90% and good reviews, but I have seen more hype about the Samsung.

Opportunity for El Reg to do an article pitting them side by side perhaps? (Maybe a 3 way contest against the iPhone since I'm sure some people will want to see that comparison, though I'm only bothered about the Samsung and the HTC myself)

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Anonymous Coward

If you want an iPhone in the comparison, you'll have to wait til Apple puts out something that's in the same league.

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Anonymous Coward

Yep. Pencil that article in for 2015, then?

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Anonymous Coward

You know, it's fine to prefer Android over iOS, but all these comments slagging off iPhones just come off as insecure. This is supposed to be a review thread for an Android phone and still you can't resist taking a swipe at the iPhone.

I long for the good old days when there was no Android OS and grown ups could discuss mobile operating systems without it degenerating into a childish willy waving contest over iOS/Android and as of recently Windows Phone.

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yeah fine.. but do note that it is NOT a 'level playing field'... go on, have a close look at what you would be missing if you went for apple instead...

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-vs-Apple-iPhone-4S_id3038

its a bit like comparing a 'land rover' to a ford escort...

I can see the comparative review..

"the ford escort tends to get stuck while doing 'off road' but its MPG and styling is good.."

" the land-rover has no problem with dirt, that a quick spray down wont cure.. "

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Anonymous Coward

Samsung?

Is this the famous Compal-rebrander?

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'Battery lasts a full day with ease'?

Wait, that's *good*?

Which reminds me, I must remember to charge my cheap featurephone this week...

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