ONE MILLION YEARS B.C. - Humans begin artificial CO2 emissions
Fossil-furtling boffins have announced that the human race was burning things - and irresponsibly releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere - fully a million years ago, some 300,000 years earlier than had been thought. "Human ancestors as early as Homo erectus may have begun using fire as part of their way of life," enthuses …
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Re: Missing the whole point/problem of man made emissions.
The problem are people who think that by stopping CO2 emissions will save "as all" and taxing as
at the same time. Ignoring the common science in the name of financial reasons spreading false science.
The climate will change as always if we like it or not and humans can't reverse natural cycles even if
we collect all CO2 from atmosfere. The single sun can bake as in the moment of bad mood with CO2 or with out.
Happy barbecuing.
@Pl0ns1971
You are still missing the point about illiteracy. Oh wait, the schools are on holiday.
nobody is openly advocating a return to universal mass illiteracy.
That will be why every kid leaves school able to read and write and ready for university; why refereed research papers are freely available to the masses; and why the public is so well educated and able to make judgements on scientific matters.
Oh, wait...
Biomass combustion doesn't add to the carbon cycle
If humans had been burning fossil fuels early humans might have been able affect the atmosphere, but burning biomass cannot do that.
It took a much larger population, industrialisation and fossil fuels to achieve that.
You might as well claim that breathing perturbs the carbon cycle.
What utter rubbish. If it were an April Fool this article might be justified.
Re: Burning wood is carbon neutral, you twonk.
Right! That's why all the Green orgs are in favor of clear cutting the jungles: It is completely carbon neutral.
So is burning oil and coal. In a another ten billion years it will all be back under the ground.
Anyway it was paleolithic 4WDs that ended the ice age and gave you Blackpool,. so shut up and be grateful.
In 10 billion years we will all be extinct
The problem is that the Sun will have reached the end of it life, gone through the Red Giant stage and be a White Dwarf glowing faintly, Earth will have been burned up/incinerated in the Red Giant stage. That will have been a very real Global Warming.
Given that we've had to apologise for just about every historical "wrong"
such as slavery (even though we didn't invent it and led the way in abolition) which country/group can I sue for starting to ruin my planet?
Re: Given that we've had to apologise for just about every historical "wrong"
If it wasn't for slavery the Steam Engine would have been economic 4000 years earlier...
Oh dear.
Fire good
Um, you kind of needed fire to cook and make heat. Are they genuinely surprised by this? http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/flame_32.png
"Fossil-furtling boffins have announced that the human race was burning things - and irresponsibly releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere - fully a million years ago, some 300,000 years earlier than had been thought."
Someone please tell me this nonsense is an "Onionsesque" take on the news and not some word processor banging hipster wannabe desperately trying to be ironic.
With such clever use of slang, Mr. Lewis is well on his way to a Wurlitzer prize. Or maybe the auto correct replaces scientist with "boffin" and he can't help it...
Are fossil-furtling boffins scientists, or pre-historians? Who cares. This is El Reg and unless you are very new here you have got over Lewis' prose style by now.
The word you *ought* to take issue with in that quote is "irresponsibly".
Possibly the worst article ever posted to El Reg.
What is the point? For ideological reasons you don't want to accept AGW, but you recognise that there is no scientific reason to reject the theory. Ok. But why publish crap like this?
"Fossil-furtling boffins have announced that the human race was burning things - and irresponsibly releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere - fully a million years ago, some 300,000 years earlier than had been thought."
No, as you recognise yourself burning wood has no effect on atmospheric CO2. You've got to burn fossil fuels for that, and prehistoric oil refining was minimal.
"Many people feel that reading, writing, and other such non-food-gathering, energy-related activities are a big part of what make us human - like socialising round the old camp fire. However all this has led to a lot more CO2 being emitted, which some say means we should go back to windmills and waterwheels: though nobody is openly advocating a return to universal mass illiteracy."
WTF. Do you seriously think that the publishing industry is a major cause of our CO2 output? Are you really so deluded as to think that people who'd like to cut CO2 emissions want us to stop reading?
Way to go Lewis! =) My favourite reg journalists who seems to be the only one woh dares to write politically incorrect stuff.
It is quite obvious after climate gate and the IPCC corruption that politicians are using the green house effect to increase taxes and control the population by making it impossible for the common man to fly due to the high future carbon taxes. Once the common man is then "grounded" the politicians can then increase the tax to 100% because it will be impossible to run.
Add to that the "problems" of terrorism which motivates monitoring everybody all the time, and capitalism which motivates socializing all companies, and you have a neat recipe for 1984. So remember the three ingredients now...
* Climate change - leads to increase taxes, making travel impossible.
* Terrorism - leads to the surveillance of everyone.
* Capitalism - leads to communism where private property is seen as immoral.
Now go out there and throw out your politicians, and find me some libertarians! ;)
"politicaly" incorrect?
"Way to go Lewis! =) My favourite reg journalists who seems to be the only one woh dares to write politically incorrect stuff."
Or just plain bollocks?
I'm sure that Lewis will be absolutely thrilled to add another conspiracy loon to his fanbase. Three more and he'll qualify for a gold card and free tinfoil from the first class fruitloop lounge.
Re: IT?
Who cares? It's Lewis Page at his finest on El Reg.
Why, I expect he could write a review of Cats! and the comment section would burst into flame wars about AGW.
They may not be advicating mass illteracy, but..
But it sure seems like they are planning it sometimes.
Its after all, deeply elitist that some people can read and some are just too stupid to learn.
"We now know exactly what this creature looked like.."
From the introduction of a Monty Python episode where the toe of a human foot is later determined to be the nose of some nonexistent animal.
Cue the Evolutiontards...
Don't jump to confusions, I say
Geez... is this "find" and the subsequent "finding" not a little over zealous? These guys are known for jumping the gun.http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/flame_32.png
More likely the lady had brought in some charcoal twigs or tree limbs that had been burnt in a natural fire to make pretty marks on her face and brighten up the cave walls with artful designs.
The whole message is that THEY started the fire. Like hell they did....
Did they find how the fire had been started? http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/mushroom_32.png
Now THAT find would have said something.
Isn't this "Cloud Computing"
'Anyone but me think this article should have appeared under "Cloud Computing"?
Waow.
I am impressed by your imaginative way of using use of fire by prehistoric man to pretend that gengerating CO2 is what makes us human, and trying to get to our minds that we have to continue to generate the more CO2.
Brilliant Thesis.
What about demonstrating that lying is an essential part of being human ?
We have an actual proof here ...
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