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As of now all Reg readers with five or more posts accepted for publication can create topics in our new El Reg forums. We have made this easier to find: the signpost link is in the secondary nav bar on the front page. At the same time we've opened simple HTML formatting to all commenters who have had five posts accepted for …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Required: link for New Postings

    Can we have a New Postings (since last visit) link to a screenful of topics with recent activity... it's the only way to manage web forum visits, if you don't want to miss anything and don't want to recursively check each and every subforum!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Required: link for New Postings

      Check out the El Reg Forums roadmap in our Forum wishlist.

  2. ratfox
    Pint

    Let's see

    Thank you very much!

    Here is a link to a really good tech site.

    1. Crisp
      Holmes

      Re: Let's see

      Dude! Couldn't you have put that in <spoiler /> tags?

  3. Jess

    What about handling html plus markdown?

    Surely it can't be hard to make both work?

    Though the conventions I would prefer are those from text email:

    /italic/

    *bold*

    _underlined_

    > quoted section

    1. Sweaty Hambeast

      Re: What about handling html plus markdown?

      >Though the conventions I would prefer are those from text email:

      And the ones I would prefer are from IBM's GML which use : and . instead of < and > and here's the problem: lots of people have lots of different preferences. Anyone wanna start a count?

  4. Jamie Kitson

    erm

    Markdown is even simpler than in your example (I think): *Bold* _Italic_

    1. Haku

      Re: erm

      Hmm lets try that.

      *Bold* /Italic/

      Yup that works ;)

  5. Miguel Farah
    Thumb Up

    So... may those HTML tags have attributes?

    I'm guessing the answer will be no (and I'm fine with that), but it'd be better to make this explicit:

    Can the allowed &lt;b&gt;, &lt;i&gt;, &lt;em&gt;, &lt;strong&gt; and &lt;strike&gt; include common attributes? For example:

    &lt;b style="color: blue;"&gt;Blue bold text&lt;/b&gt;

    &lt;b id="myComment&gt;link this later with #myComment&lt;/b&gt;

    Also: will the syntax be strict, accepting only "&lt;b&gt;" instead of "&lt;b &gt;"?

    For the record, I *do* like the idea.

    1. druck Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: So... may those HTML tags have attributes?

      You've not noticed the Preview button then?

      1. Miguel Farah
        Mushroom

        Re: So... may those HTML tags have attributes?

        I did. What I want is an explicit definition of it in the rulebook.

  6. Jason Bloomberg Silver badge

    Ho Hum

    I do wish El Reg would either get all they are going to do done or stop tweaking the forums. Every time something changes I have to alter my Grease Monkey script to get things working properly in Firefox. Yes; I know Grease Monkey shouldn't be necessary, but c'est la vie. I can live with it but would just like a firm foundation to stand upon.

    I'm not entirely sure all these minor tweaks are that beneficial or necessary. I do hope El Reg isn't being slowly sucked down the Web2.0 rabbit hole.

    1. Captain DaFt

      Re: Ho Hum

      Sorry, El Reg jumped down that rabbit hole a long time ago!

      That's why you're able to post a comment here instead of bashing out an email to the author like in the good ol' days. It's that wambly nambly user interaction that web 2.0 was all about.

      But at least they do a good job, and don't get carried away like so many other web sites have.

  7. David Shaw
    Coat

    one hundred

    posts?

    so I can start doing steganography with html font colour space encoding yet? Some random IEEE paper

  8. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

    OK, thanks for the features, but you can call me old-fashioned. Unless I need to add a link (which I have only found the need for ONCE) I'll stick with standard text. The reason for that is the same as why I loathe Powerpoint and WYSIWYG editing: I focus on content. The day I need embellishment is the day I evidently have no longer anything interesting to say..

    So, hello gadgets, but I'll use them sparingly. Unless I want to annoy someone, of course :-)

  9. Irony Deficient

    Thank you!

    Good to see that HTML formatting has been granted to all (mostly). I hope that the following formatting will be added to the roadmap:

    • the remaining HTML phrase elements (cite, dfn, code, samp, kbd, var, abbr, acronym);

    • inline quoting (the q element);

    • preformatted text (the pre element);

    • fixed width text (the tt element);

    • small caps (sadly there is no simple HTML element that provides them; a span element with a particular style attribute would be required);

    • the recommendations of the Vulture Central Humour Comprehensibility Committee, found at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/02/01/the_color_of_irony/ (sorry, at this time I do not meet the prerequisite for hotlinking).

    Do the characters used for HTML elements count towards a post’s maximum length?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Don't forget our forum wishlist!

      I shall post a link to your post in our forum wishlist.

      But commentards please put your recommendations there - much easier if we have them all in the same place.

      Thanks.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Headmaster

    no chance of latex support?

  11. Old Handle

    HTML vs. BBCode

    I thought the main appeal for BBCode and similar was that it's less trouble to implement safely. If you completely block HTML, and then bring back limited formating through another syntax, it's really easy to make sure you stay in control. If you allow some HTML tags, and especially if you allow attributes, then you have to be much more careful to avoid letting something harmful through.

    I certainly don't mean to suggest El Reg isn't up to the job, but for something like a personal blog (if not using a pre-made blog platform) that could be a big advantage.

  12. Gordon Fecyk
    Headmaster

    Pedantic HTML Nazi Alert

    "HTML is the open standard of the web. Deal with it, bitches."

    (Courtesy of the W3C Validator)

    Line 112, Column 123: general entity "T" not defined and no default entity…inancial incentives to Verizon and AT&T in the hope of getting them to join Sp…

    This is usually a cascading error caused by a an undefined entity reference or use of an unencoded ampersand (&) in an URL or body text. See the previous message for further details.

    Line 192, Column 22: reference to non-existent ID "EMAIL" <h4><label for=email>Email</label></h4>

    Line 198, Column 22: reference to non-existent ID "PASSWORD" <h4><label for=password>Password</label></h4>

    ...to be fair, I struggled a lot with ampersands in URLs until I changed my parser to catch these and swap these in and out on the fly. Avoiding them in links entirely also helps. And face it: You were asking for this, El Reg.

  13. umacf24

    And another reason...

    Many of the grosser and more extreme techies that read the Reg are dinosaurs.

    HTML, I know. But I never heard of BBCode or the others until I read the story...

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Yay! —HTML allowed in forum posts. It's like some kind of 1990s revival! The big question is, have I posted enough wank here, over the years, to be allowed to post a definitely not spammy link to one of my websites...?

    paedo-lesbian-dwarf-porn.com

    Woot! Looks like I have, unless the preview is lying. Go me!

  15. Richie 1
    Happy

    Allowing inline Javascript could be fun

    <span onmouseover="alert(‘you suck‘)">what a lovely article</span>

  16. ~mico
    Linux

    The Reg missed the obvious...

    <code> tag!

  17. Trixr
    Thumb Up

    Markdown is just really nice ... and I'm speaking as someone who first learned 'er tagging in SGML. (Roll your own DTD, bitches)

    As for BBCode, yup, "sanitised" html - what's the point.

    And another vote for *<code>* please! (<pre> is deprecated for that purpose!)

  18. Chris Sake
    Joke

    Exclusivity

    You mention that commentards will have posting and formatting rights. Can I assume that those who who detested this term will be, quite rightly, excluded?

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