Tremble, thing-makers, because The Pirate Bay has started to share the source files for physical objects. The controversial file-sharing site, known for aiding the distribution of music tracks, films and books, has decided to start a new category for files of 3D objects. Only those with 3D printers will be able to make use of …
The quality of MakerBot printers is atrocious... But the quality of the Ultimaker is stunning. I don't have any pictures of stuff I've printed on my Ultimaker, but it easily rivals shapeways. Take a look at these:
I've printed a whole army of multi-coloured yodas now at 0.02mm layer height.
It now includes a "3D Printable Chris Dodd with AACS Encryption Key".... Priceless :)
You will download your sneakers within 20 years.
Someone needs a better Internet connection.
3d plastic printing. The betamax of home manufacture
I'll wait for the nanobots. Feed in all that left over Carbon from the sequestration systems and let the nanobots build diamond bodied cars by re-assembling the atoms in the correct order.
Shove some in the bin and they can do all your recycling separation for you too by separating everything into it's component atoms leaving nice neat cubes of each element ready for your next project.
Mines the one with the hole in the pocket.
Don't trust the nanites!
Or maybe I've been watching too much Red Dwarf...
Grey goo anyone?
That title makes it sound better but marketing failure
You have just said that 3D plastic printing is the best method but a commercial failure.
There are places that do 3D model making for you and you can upload your (STL ?) file and they post the item back to you. There are already a number of online repositories of 3D files for all sorts of things that you might want to do; the piratebay just seem to be catching up with the times.
However, 3D scanning has become very easy, so maybe TPB will have people's scans of things that the other repositories wouldn't touch?
"Shove some in the bin and they can do all your recycling separation for you too by separating everything into it's component atoms leaving nice neat cubes of each element ready for your next project."
Don't get any of those nanobots on your hands o_O
Any eventual nanobot type system would come with a kill switch (or more likely an activation switch) to prevent that kind of 'grey goo' apocalypse. E.g. powered by some specifically tuned form of radiation, without which they are inert, maybe similar to your microwave oven.
More likely some kind of very specific chemical fuel that doesn't occur in nature, patented of course so that you have to buy it in large quantities from the sole manufacturer. Oh and taxed by the government on top since we'd all be brewing up our own synthetic fuels sans tax from the contents of the kitchen bin in Back to the Future hovering time-travel DeLorean style.
Cause that worked so well in Jurassic Park. On a more important note, why is it always grey goo? Why can't it be purple or something. If these things are going to take over the world, at least they can do it with a little style. Imperial Purple or something. I might even go quietly if the nanobots are pink, just to be able to hear Santorum scream about the evil gay ants.
" I might even go quietly if the nanobots are pink, just to be able to hear Santorum scream about the evil gay ants."
Wow, even a thread about nano-bots isn't safe from the homosexual propaganda squad.
"Any eventual nanobot type system would come with a kill switch (or more likely an activation switch) to prevent that kind of 'grey goo' apocalypse. "
Oh, is that so? Let me just run that through my reality machine.
Getting the results now.....
"I assume that any eventual nanobot type system would come with a kill switch (or more likely an activation switch) to prevent that kind of 'grey goo' apocalypse. At least that is, until someone makes some that doesn't"
Bit slow off the mark aren't they?
Thingiverse has been around for ages!
Oh, the irony!
Downloadable shoes for someone who's too lazy to walk to the shops :-)
I'd like to download...
... a model for the latest Katy Perry CD. Do they have Blurays, too?
best use of 3d printing
replacing those small plastic car parts that are made of unobtanium... molding clips, short-run blinkers, old school tail lights, knobs, etc.
I wonder if I can print off a new front for my caravan,
£1200 - they are taking the pee, it only cost £8000 when new.
Anyway ABS welding rods and plastic welder = cracks repaired.
I was thinking of that too
ABS is common on cars - eg bumpers, my car (actually most of that model) are missing some small grills in the bumper, and the earlier cars shed headlamp washers like they are going out of fashion.
There you go, 4 parts for 1 car model, but not the same car, and not long out of production.
I suspect that 3d printing technology
Is going to make an enormous difference to the world of manufacturing. There's a long way to go before it can be used for anything with serious structural properties, or needing multipl materials, but it will come. Maybe not in my lifetime, but who knows.
But it will change this world of ours, that's for sure. The irony of chinese plastics factories being undercut by people making their own plastic tat appeals to me I must admit, but unfortunately there's a very serious side. The long term consequences, who knows. Lets imagine much manufacture is done by everyone at home, and design is mainly done by amateurs because no-one can make a living at design because they are ripped off.
There are all sorts of dystopian visions opening up... increasingly we seem to be getting a society where there are fewer and fewer unskilled jobs, and yet arguably there are more and more unskilled people... Here come the Marching Morons...
mainly done by amateurs
"and design is mainly done by amateurs because no-one can make a living at design because they are ripped off."
Is that what happened to the Music industry?
Much more useful than peolple claim...
There's already been a reg article on 3D printable clothes and a video circling the net showing how objects with moving parts can be made using a 3D printer. So I'd say that it's not just small plastic desk toys that'll be uploaded to TPB, what about hand tools(adjustable wrenches have already been made), gadget accessories(cases) and random objects like hair brushes and dildos :)
I wouldn't say it's going to be an apocalypse or revolution, but I do think it will be as awesome as, say, the invention of the PC or cell phones and possibly automobiles.
Either way, the dead record industry is going to cry when they realise that I can copy the actuall record itself as well as the song :P
!I can copy the actuall record itself as well as the song"
Awesome! for all states of awesomeness, what a great idea.
1)Take a .wav file (or flac) and 'convert' it to a 3d-printable vinyl disc.
"Either way, the dead record industry is going to cry when they realise that I can copy the actuall record itself as well as the song :P"
None of the 3D printers I've looked at can come close to doing that. To print a record you're talking about micrometer level detail. Really high end home 3D printers I've seen can handle .8 millimeter sized details, but nothing smaller than that.
"This 3D printed record keeps the Portal printer theme going by cutting our old pal Jonathan Coulton's "Still Alive" into its grooves. The single was printed over at Shapeways and played on a Fisher-Price record player."
Of course, I would only be downloading the 3D file for the box for my Linux distro...
Quick, everyone, pirate some expensive modeling software so you can make free 3D printable models!
Also, how long until (or how long since - I'm not checking) this format does the "Internet" thing and becomes 90% porn?
I think when I get a minute (never) I'll make a model of goatse, then upload it under titles like "Big Tits" or similar, just to stir things up a bit.
"Quick, everyone, pirate some expensive modeling software so you can make free 3D printable models!"
Why in the world would you do that when there are so many free 3D modeling programs? And some of them are actually pretty decent looking (from my non-serious hobbiest point of view anyway).
There are (I've heard, haven't tried) decent programs for 3D modeling for things like animation. But when it comes to mechanical design, you want (need, in my opinion) a parametric modeling system, like Solidworks or Inventor. Believe me, I've looked (and re-look every few months,) and nothing free comes anywhere near the capabilities of Solidworks.
For reference, parametric design mostly boils down to relative dimensioning, so you can define the center of a hole some distance from an edge, and if you move that edge the hole follows it. This allows you to make adjustable models, which in turn allows you to iterate your designs quickly (until you hit some limitation, and your hole is now in free space, at which point everything goes to hell and you just have a beer.) Anything with static dimensions ("this hole is at x,y,z - then adjust it manually after you move the edge it's supposed to be aligned with,") or, gods forbid, primitive-based modeling (BRL CAD - "I have a rectangular prism with these corners, I subtract from it a cylinder of this side at these coordinates... now imagine making a laser printer paper tray") is just asking for trouble.
Then again, I'm a mechanical engineer (and I've had models 3D printed!) Maybe people art abilities (not me, in the slightest) would do better with Blender. I've heard it works, but I can't imagine tolerancing moving / meshing / interlocking parts with it.
I also doubt that it has a button that'll tell you the second area moment of inertia of a surface (IE cross-section,) which saves about 2 pages of calculus (assuming an oddly-shaped beam) when you're trying to print beam springs. Couldn't live without that!
Make a model of goatse?
I don't think the joke is gonna be on the guy who downloads it.
We're not talking replicators here...
… you will still have to supply the raw materials.
It will, though, be very handy to have copies of broken parts, etc. But I imagine they're going for cheap merchandising toys. I mean, it's about pirating, after all...
With a 3d scanner
Scan the R/H component, flip the design print the L/H component
Count me in
Here´s looking at you Cahrlie Stross
As someone else mentioned, many alternatives to 3D printing have been explored in Rule34 by Charles Stross and his previous novels (Accelerando bein IMHO his Opera Prima in terms of futurology).
Kudos Charly, you´ve done it again you Magnificent Bastard
Shouldn't Mention of Rule 34...
... get the obligatory XKCD link?
Who wants 20 year old sneakers?
TPB are such morons... Anything to get media coverage and such in the gullible.
Home 3D printers?
While decent quality 3D printers may become affordable are they really going to be worthwhile or cost effective to own?
Decent quality photo printers are affordable, but it works out a lot cheaper for me to use one of the many online services to print and deliver my photos than it does to buy and run my own photo printer and when I do want a photo printed there's very rarely any sort of rush so I'm happy to wait a few days.
Even if you can nip into PC World and pick up a 3D printer in a few years time I doubt most people will bother as it'll probably end up cheaper to do your 3D printing through an online service who wont touch anything that's obviously copyright (like the way most photo sites will avoid duplicating copyright photos).
This story does make me think of something you might see on thinkgeek, google or slashdot on April the 1st though.
And no one mentioned Cory Doctorow's Makers
Not to mention Printcrime http://craphound.com/?p=573
Once a metal 3d printer (with sintering kiln) is available it will be possible to download a saturday night special, and eventually an automatic rifle receiver. (I know, the material strength will need to be increased significantly for the gun to not blow up or fail after a single use.)
>>"(I know, the material strength will need to be increased significantly for the gun to not blow up or fail after a single use.)"
Wouldn't we maybe be better off if the people dim enough to try setting off explosions in home-printed firearms actually *did* try setting off explosions in home-printed firearms?
An untraceable single use firearm?
Given that it's generally necessary to dispose of a firearm after it has been fired during a crime, the fact that it'll only survive one shot isn't necessarily a bad thing....
CNC is not new
The Rep-Rap type plastic extrusion machines are just one example of CNC. They all share a way to position the working head in 3 dimensions relative to the work piece. What is different is what kind of working head: drill bit for cutting metal, plastic extruder, laser for sintering, etc.
Computerized Numerical Control (CNC) machines have been around for decades, working with materials like metal mostly. Like the old mainframe computers, though, they were expensive enough that only businesses used them. There are hobbyists building home CNC machines the way early experimenters built their own PCs. The revolution will be when enough of the machines are cheap enough to make parts for each other at a community or home level. This already happens at the industrial level. The factories that produce CNC machines use more CNC machines to make their parts. It's just been too expensive for ordinary people to do that so far.
You missed the fact that these machines are additive rather than subtractive, the primary benefit is you only use the material you need.
This is also beneficial in industries where components are typically made from a solid lump of material and where casting is not practical due to risk and/or cost due to volume.
you will steal your trainers off pirate bay and print them
it's like some kind of incredibly slow motion london riot
Will 3D printers come with a 'Bored Now!' button for teenagers who have changed their minds before the item is actually ready?
I'm one step closer to sleeping with mai waifu~
But can the machine replicate
the squishy bits?
I don't really care for those.
As long as I have the ability to sleep next to her, I'm happy.
I know the article was written in a pretty tongue in cheek tone, but the phone accessories market for example, is growing rapidly, and if printers can be made bigger then why pay BMW 3k for a replacement front wing or bumper... if there's a market for it then there's someone to exploit that market. I think (technology advanced required) it will be a new era or of 'illegal downloads'.
>>"and if printers can be made bigger then why pay BMW 3k for a replacement front wing or bumper.."
Well, I guess unless you could prove they were just as good as the original as far as crashworthiness, etc is concerned, your insurance company might have something to say about it.
You do need to look at the bigger picture - if you 'save' £3k but end up getting insurance refused or made more expensive, and also lower the resale value...
And I somehow doubt that BMW would be likely to sit by and say - "Fair enough, they're probably as good as our parts" even if they thought they were.
Ultimately, if there's a crash and doubts exist over a part's safety, if BMW have made the part, it's between them (and their engineers and lawyers) and your insurance company.
If you made it, it might be between your insurance company and you.
Even if you're technically right, you might have a good chance of losing.
Let me know
When I can print my own Milla Jovovich ala The Fifth Element..
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