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Russian, American and European space agencies are in talks to create a human colony on the Moon, according to Russian news source Rianovosti. MOON_STATION Artist's impression of the Moon station from Nasa's Global Exploration Roadmap Russia wants to build either a space base on the surface of the Moon itself or a space …

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  1. Matthew 17

    Fly the ISS to the Moon

    NASA was on about bolting a big booster to the side of the ISS so that they could get it out of orbit and fly it to Mars, why not just drive it over to the Moon first?

    1. Kamira
      Stop

      I think it has something to do with withstanding the radiation further away from the earth's magnetic field.

      1. Mike Flugennock
        Boffin

        Not just radiation, but...

        Not only are there radiation environment issues, but also the fact that ISS wasn't built to handle the range of dynamic stresses* involved in accelerating out of Earth orbit and then decelerating into lunar orbit -- not to mention the constant reboosts and orbital correction manuvers once there owing to the oddly distributed "mascons" (mass concentrations) in the moon which make maintaining a stable orbit more difficult.

        ---

        *To get an idea of what happens during an orbital reboost firing aboard ISS, check out NASA's YouTube channel and watch some of the video shot by bracket-mounted cameras inside the ship when the engines light...

        "shakin' aalll-lll oooo-oooooverrr-rrrrrrr...!"

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Joke

    Conspiracy

    "We don’t want the man to just step on the Moon,”

    And what about the woman ?

    1. kryptonaut
      Trollface

      @ShelLuser

      Not to worry, I think the man has already walked all over the woman.

    2. Nathanial Wapcaplet
      Holmes

      Women on the moon? About time...

      ... the place is thick with dust!

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It's my Moon too

    Shouldn't we all get a say in what happens up there? Visiting it is one thing, making plans for it is another entirely.

    1. Blofeld's Cat

      Don't Panic...

      All the plans will be put on display at your local planning office in Alpha Centauri.

      1. Swoop

        "All the plans will be put on display at your local planning office in Alpha Centauri"

        ...in a locked filing cabinet in a dark cellar with a sign on the door saying "beware of the leopard"

  4. Peter Gordon

    I reckon they should call it

    "Moonunit Zappa"

  5. Field Marshal Von Krakenfart
    Alien

    Who's going to be first...

    ...to dig up Tyco crater.

    DAH DAHHHHHH

    Boom-boom boom-boom boom-boom boom-boom.

    1. Local Group
      Facepalm

      And expose the large black monolith?

      Dave Bowman: Hello, HAL. Do you read me, HAL?

      HAL: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.

      Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL, I really have to pee bad. Oh, boy.

      HAL: Why didn't you bring a bottle, Dave?

      1. Field Marshal Von Krakenfart
        Joke

        HAL: Why didn't you bring a bottle, Dave?

        Dave: because I didn't think I would be playing warcraft.

  6. ravenviz Silver badge
    WTF?

    And the point is...

    Really they should be a bit more specific of *why* they want to colonise the Moon.

    All I can think of are either:

    a) reasons of discovery e.g. manned telescopes, or

    b) betterment of human existance which could be:

    i) exploitation of resources (helium-3, wealth); or

    ii) exploitation of environment (e.g. microgravity for therapies, development of medicine).

    iii) waste management (bad idea)

    It was fine to go to the Moon "because it is there" in the 70's but now it needs a revised mandate.

    Penal colony anyone?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "Penal colony anyone?"

      Use a nit comb and remember to wash all your bedding.

    2. Anonymous John

      "Earth is too small a basket for mankind to keep all its eggs in." Robert A. Heinlein

    3. Filippo Silver badge

      Launching rockets from the Moon would be a whole lot easier, so it's a stepping-stone to Mars, which could actually be conceivably colonized.

      Colonizing Mars is a good idea because, well, either we do that or we die. It's just a matter of time. That said, it's not exactly urgent - but then again, when I start saying that something isn't urgent, I always end up not doing it until it becomes urgent...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        I said that too

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Trespassers!

    I have a certificate stating my claim to one square metre of the lunar surface, trespassers will be roughed up accordingly on return to earth.

    GERROFF MA LAND!

    1. ElReg!comments!Pierre
      Unhappy

      And so it begins again

      Damn English, boggarting the fertile moon lands and leaving the rest of us with only the inhospitable moon-moors...

  8. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
    FAIL

    So is the War on Galactic Terror called off?

    The 19 trillion actual debt paid?

    The 200 trillion uncovered welfare costs suddenly covered?

    No?

    Forget this shit.

    1. Poor Coco
      Facepalm

      And keep up the terrrorism bullshit?

      see title, dumbass.

    2. oddie
      Thumb Up

      and yet..

      if only we would be willing to sacrifice several kinds of food... clothing, recreational travel, televisied entertainment, hygiene products, hot water and decorative but useless jewelry I'm sure this (I assume american) debt could be paid off in a mere few years? :)

    3. hplasm
      Thumb Down

      It's not real money.

      So why not forget about that unimportant shit?

  9. cnapan

    What happens when the toilet breaks down?

    It's bad enough getting a plumber in London...

  10. Christoph

    Base, not colony

    They seem to be talking about a lunar base, with personnel having short tours of duty. A colony would imply people living there permanently and having children there.

    By the way, although we know that humans have long-term problems in 'zero' gravity, has any research been done on what's likely to happen long term in lunar or martian gravity?

  11. JeffinLondon

    Coolio!

    Hey..... Newt is high on space, so maybe we can get past this current flopping about and get serious about going back to the land of green cheese.

    Call it ISS - North, invite in all the ISS partners plus China and let's have a go!

  12. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Coat

    Perhaps we should start with a colony of some smaller mamal and then

    follow the meercats.

  13. b166er

    @Chris 68, I hope you were joking.

    Like you have any control over what goes on on THIS rock!

  14. Webslicer

    congratulations. you made it through an entire article without saying boffins. pat yourselves on the back.

    1. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re:

      I very, very, very nearly put boffins the top line.

      C.

  15. Beachrider

    Sooo a Russian says something and NASA (not the ESA) is in cahoots?

    Wow, in the US, the editor would surely be challenged on the title. The title makes it sound like the Russians and Americans are off on some separate pursuit.

    - There is no NASA corroboration

    - The only real quote from the Russian put the ESA at-parity with the other two, but you would never know from the title

    - NASA's official position is that the Moon isn't the next opportunity. HEO or Lagrange points have been placed FAR above building bases on the Moon.

    - While we are at it, where is the ESA or Roscosmos corroboration?

    ... I suppose the discussion is good for conjecture...

  16. ItsNotMe
    FAIL

    Just wonderful.

    "Man" has just about completely buggered up the Earth...now let's see how we can make a huge mess of another planet. :-(

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Seriously, if there is no life on the moon what exactly is the problem? It will be obliterated in a few billion years anyway when the Sun goes red giant, regardless of what us 'evil' humans do in the meantime.

    2. E 2

      If at first you fail...

      try try again!

      Lots of planets out there for us to practice on I say!

  17. ElReg!comments!Pierre
    Coat

    COLONIZE the MOON?

    Should Nevad expect a sudden rise in population then?

    OK, OK, I'm leaving

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Unhappy

    First they ban nuclear testing, now you want to get rid of the waste??

    But if you get rid of all the radioactive stuff where are the giant mutated ants, radioactive city-destroying lizards and swamp things supposed to come from??!

    Sigh....I guess I should have been an adult in the 1950s....

  19. Buzzby
    Thumb Up

    Old Book Worth a Read

    The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Robert Anson Heinlein, is well worth a read. Let them throw rocks!,

    What a good idea.

  20. E 2

    The last people on the moon

    "... stayed for just over three days in 1972"

    But the weather was terrible and the skin diving very poor, so they left early.

    1. ravenviz Silver badge
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      Re: The last people on the moon

      Must have been really weird going to sleep each night - and waking up ... on the Moon.

      1. TeeCee Gold badge
        WTF?

        Not half as weird as it would have been had they gone to sleep on the Moon and woken up somewhere else.....

  21. Gumby
    Thumb Up

    First.. an outhouse!

    No colony can be built without an outhouse dug out first!

  22. HAndrew
    FAIL

    Why is the title so misleading?

    Why is the title missing ESA? Russia and ESA just completed the Mars habitat experiment and have other joint projects for launchers.

    Is it some kind of British bias against Europeans or is the Register simply afraid it would be too many words for us readers? :)

  23. The Fuzzy Wotnot
    Thumb Up

    AD ASTRA!

    Let's go!

  24. jarule
    Joke

    RE: The last people on the moon

    Sounds like your describing Benidorm maybe?

    On that note, I hope that daily mail reading, carlsberg swilling expat scousers are involved in no way in colonising the moon. The last thing we need is a f****** Benidorm in outer space.

    That mob colonising the solar system....doesn't bear thinking about.

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