US researchers have concluded that there's little evidence to support the existence of the legendary Gräfenberg Spot - a bundle of nerves located in the front wall of the vagina which can supposedly cause the earth to move. The team - led by urologist Dr Amichai Kilchevsky of Yale-New Haven Hospital - trawled "clinical trials, …
Service for those of you with cut'n'paste fatigue..
How did you do that?
[the linky, I mean]
The first rul.......arrrgghhh...
"Furthermore, radiographic studies have been unable to demonstrate a unique entity, other than the clitoris, whose direct stimulation leads to vaginal orgasm"
So that fact that I can make my girlfriend orgasm without touching her clitoris means she's faking it ? In which case, she's a bloody good actress.
Just because we don't understand something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
You've got it backwards
The statement is "...whose direct stimulation leads to vaginal orgasm" not "...whose direct stimulation exclusively leads to vaginal orgasm". These are different statements. Also, not all orgasms are vaginal.
Note that they ...
...trawled "clinical trials, meeting abstracts, case reports, and review articles"
So no actual field research then, purely an academic literary review.
I would have been prepared to volunteer to help them out with an empirical study.
Was wondering that myself: how do you expect to find the G-spot in a bunch a paper? Unless your secretary sits on top of them, this scientific method doesn't seem to be that accurate.
Perhaps if you treated the lady's pleasuredome with more care instead of some sort of biological box of tricks to be tinkered with, you might have more luck you daft gits!
To quote John Cleese in the Meaning of Life, "Give her a kiss boy! You don't have to go charging headlong for the clitoris! Start her off with a simple kiss first!"
If you want the manual
On 30+ women (count not age) I've always found the spot to be on the upper side (assuming they are laying down) about 3/4 of a finger length it, around the roughening of the wall.
Calling Doctor Winston!
Thanks for that!
Okay, I'll bite: How many failures did you have?
And how do you know they all had an orgasm?
How does a woman know she's had an orgasm? This isn't a boast, but a former girlfriend claimed she'd had them before, then was was rather surprised when she had the real thing (well, that's how she put it, anyhow).
You are obviously a gynaecologist abusing your position of trust
"You are obviously a gynaecologist abusing your position of trust"
At first glance, I read that as "position of thrust."
First of all, it's the only thing you cannot bite :-). I think your former GF noticed it felt different, which is not unusual. A vaginal orgasm and a G-spot stimulated one reportedly feel different.
Now, I naturally always state that there is a degree of uncertainty and that I thus need to reconfirm the data. In general, test subjects declare themselves not inconvenienced by my need for accuracy, and actually come to insist on a spread of sample data..
The Americans won't find it...
... because it wasn't invented there!
Apple already patented the original - the iSpot - and will soon be suing the manufacturers of these blatant clones!
It's in the kitchen. Everyone knows that!
I was under the impression that there were a few different locations...
Around the neck
On the wrist
Basically anywhere you can place a diamond
suspect it's correct
Probably just simulation of the clitoris, by all accounts vaginal orgasms usually involve quite vigorous activity, just because there's no contact with the clitoris doesn't mean it's not getting stimulated. Once some one is close enough, out doesn't take much.
Given that the clitoris is a much larger structure than just the external "bud", splits and goes down either side of the vaginal opening (internally) I suspect that you have "hit the spot" here, but probably for the same reasons as the researchers.
I always found the sweet spot by adjusting/moving the TV aerial nearer to the window.
I'm so glad that so much time was spent by these well paid and educated people on this subject. After all why waste time trying find out what causes motor neurone disease or dementia, when you can occupy yourself with womens' privates and get paid for it too.
@you can occupy yourself with womens' privates and get paid for it too
Sounds good to me - I continue doing this research for nothing.
And as for all the - I assume - men - asking how does a woman know she's had an orgasm, I can only say in my experience(of spreading joy to the opposite sex) , it's a whole body experience...
They've discovered the female erroneous zone.
Love that headline!
I laughed when I saw that headline (Earth moving equipment, etc) well done there!
I wife seems to find something approximating a G Spot whenever she turns on QVC and they are selling Yankee candles at a discount.
Marriage followed by kids, the ultimate contraceptive...
Typical men :) Instead of saying "we don't know what the G-spot is" they say "the G-spot does not exist". From the Richard Dawkins school of science.
There's definitely *something* there, according to reported subjective experience during my informal scientific research on the subject. Even if it's just a hallucination, it's still a real phenomenon.
If it was a phenomenon it would be observable. God is also not a phenomenon... or real.
@Eddie Edwards - We all know what Santa Claus is
but he still doesn't exist. One more thing, hallucinating is real but the things you see when you are hallucinating are not.
I'd still go with Richard Dawkins here.
Falls into the same category as...
How do cats purr. Elusive but real and quite entertaining on a good day.
@How cats purr
"It turns out that cats have special wiring! The wiring travels from the brain to the muscles in the voice box, and this wiring is able to vibrate the muscles so that they act as a valve for air flowing past the voice box. The muscles work both during inhalation and exhalation, which creates the impression that cats can purr continuously. The air passes through the valve, which opens and closes rapidly to create the purring sound."
Well, speaking as someone who is a female-type person, as opposed to nearly everyone opining here, it IS an observable phenomenon for me. G-spot stimulation is quite different to general vaginal simulation, and an orgasm involvinng the g-spot is qualitatively different to one that is external-clitoris only. And every woman I know of (and have shagged) who has a sensitive g-spot area says exactly the same thing.
Given the extent of the clitoris, I wouldn't be surprised if it's involved, but it really does feel quite different to external stimulation. Perhaps the deeper nerve structures relay a different sensation type.
So anyway, if the study was to "prove" an actual unique anatomical structure exists, well, evidently there isn't. But individual sensitivity is different - we all know of people who find having their ears blown into an erotic sensation, whereas others would like to punch the blower in the face - and so for the researchers to say (if they are, not having read the paper) that the *sensation* categorically doesn't exist is cobblers.
Thus neatly proving that ...
... many researchers spend entirely too much time in the lab, and not enough time at home with their spouse/sig.other.
Hint: Stop correlating data for an hour or so once a week. Spend the time finding your partner's G-spot, instead. You'll both be happier.
 Several times a week is better ... or so says SHMBO.
 With appropriate nods to my Gay male friends ;-)
That's swmbo ... SWMBO! :-)
I made the post around 3:30 AM California time ... I was spelling my Foreman keeping an eye on a mare who was foaling. Vitnery reports that Mother & filly are healthy and well ... The currently unnamed filly is discovering rain. I love having babies on the ground at this time of year :-)
 Maybe he should have been spell-chscking me ;-)
 I'm leaning towards `MsBee`, purely out of nostalgia ...
Its in the wallet!
Well, if you don't know, she's not going to tell you.
Google fails again to deliver G-spot. Apple will soon come out with their competing iSpot, and everybody will find it!
I can't help but be reminded of this little incident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_ray
Speaking as a Real Man...
Surgeon Pierre Foldes: "cannot be reduced to a yes or no or an on or off"
What a scary thing thing for a man with, supposedly, scientific training to say. Both technically accurate and complete bollocks at the same time.
Having seen a few American grumble flicks I think they may confused as to which hole they should be investigating.
of the a-spot.
Now I'm thinking of it
As a Yank
Wait you mean there such a thing as a wrong hole ?
Any hole's a goal.
What I want to know is,....
when genetc engineering can make the g-spot (and the cl!t0r!s) glow in dark so we can find the damn thing. And perhaps a score readout on the iphone telling us how we are doing (from the pitch and frequency of the "ooooo"s)?
Generally you'll find the clitoris under the hood - or do you call it the clitoral bonnet on your side of the pond?
How do you know? - well you get a cooked breakfast for a start.
nice work if you can get it
what would I need to do to get a job on this vital research project?
paris icon because the existence of her g-spot should have been widely published by now.
How do you know ...
... when a woman has had an orgasm ?
When the buzzing sound stops.
"Dig finds no evidence for earth-moving equipment"
If they need to move earth then they should check the other orifice.
Weapons of Massive Dick-straction
Is that the same 'merkin team what went looking for WMDs as well.