Guilty, your honour. In mitigation, I would like to assure the jury that I do not automatically adore everything with Apple branding on it, nor have I any intention of jacking off over a Steve Jobs biography. I just happen to like the current range of Apple MacBook Pro notebook computers, that’s all. Is it such a crime? Apple …
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2 year-old. Not year-old. That means it's two years old, not one.
For a start don't be bias just because its from Apple and you HATE apple fanbois.
I fucking hate iPhones, iPods, iPads, iMacs and anything else with an i on the start. All overpriced and ok, but nothing special.
I'd never have tried a mac book pro or air if my company didn't buy me one. Having said that, they are fucking amazing to work on, the operating system once you get over all the weird/pretty ui and just use it like you want, is great.
Build quality is amazing, I've now had a MBP 15" and an MBA 11" - both are the best computers I've ever had. Things never go wrong, it always just works as expected, it doesn't feel like you might break it by dropping it, we've had someone knock a bottle of water over a MBP, about 300ml from a 500ml bottle, and we turned it upside down and left it to drip out for a few minutes, wiped it off and carried on, it didn't ever crash it or shut it down..
If you want a really high spec computer, then don't spend your money on a MB but if you are realistic about your usage of said computer, I'm a developer, I don't need high power spec or graphics, i need a decent amount of ram, a dooable processor and I need it to work without any hicups. which it does fine. my MBA has 4gb of ram, which isn't great nowadays, but the systems runs smooth no matter what i do on it, no matter how many things i have open, it just works. 4gb on a windows pc just about keeps the operating system happy.
If I was to buy my own laptop, I maybe wouldn't go for a MB, they are expensive, no doubt about it. But if you get over the fact you won't get as high spec for your money, its clearly worth it.
penguin because its in there somewhere.
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They are good.
If money's not an issue (and if you run your own business, 1K is really ridiculous pocket change), that's really a great box.
2 USB? So what, it is hooked to a 7-port stackable USB hub here and there is no single problem. You can stack hubs on hubs for "as many ports as you need."
I've got a MBP 13 from 2 generations before and it is really a pleasure to work with it.
Mine lives into a Henge dock http://www.hengedocks.com/ and is hooked on a 24" display.
There are plenty of other PCs with XP, Vista, ... and Linux Mint over here. Needless to say, most work happens on the MBP13". And I was a PC guy. That says a lot.
Take me down as well :-)
I understand why this is not cheaper, that just not Apples market, let Dell and lenovo etc fight it out down there,
At a thousand quid i dont understand why its not better specified.
I've run Powerbooks, Powerbook Pros, Macbook Pros for the past 12 years. They are only expensive if you only look a raw specs. If you look at the whole package they aren't.
I recently challenged our IT department to find me a laptop with the same specification for less money. I wanted the same battery life, the same screen resolution and quality, the same graphics chipset. They couldn't. The killer was battery life and screen quality.
Its all about horses for courses. I run a Macbook Pro because I can and I like what they offer. I could buy a cheaper PC laptop but I would be compromising in some form or other. Of course the rabid anti-Apple zealots will just call me a fanboi or worse. Shame that.
And if you did...
buy a cheaper PC based laptop, you have the suffrage of Windows unless you install Linux
I have the 2.7 and it ticks all my boxes
im sure your MBP is great too.
Dell vostro 3350 - £750
(intel i5 2.3Ghz dual core hyperthreaded, backlit keyboard,1366x768 res, ATI Radeon HD6490 with intel graphics to reduce power usage, 8 cell battery, USB 3.0 blutooth etc etc)
8GB ram - £35
256GB Crucial M4 SSD - £260
So for just 45 pounds more than the MBP i have not just the exact spec, but a considerably higher spec, that will run win7 for 8+ hours, has a boot up time from cold to clicking the start menu of 19 seconds and shuts down in 5 seconds
But you wanted an exact spec provided by apple so i can see why you wouldnt want 8gb of ram or an SSD.
But what you got is nice too....
I've had one of the original unibody Macbooks for almost 3 years now, and as the review says, this is more of the same, but mildly tweaked, and trailing the technology curve in typical apple fashion. But I've been looking to see what might be a good replacement (because Macs for science use are poor for productivity and a dead end for specialist software - fanbois, make of that what you will). And This hasn't exactly been a paragon of reliability or stability either, needing a new MoBo and the OS reinstalling every 12 months or less to remain stable and quick.
In terms of hardware, as people have noted, I can get a similar or more powerful PC for about half the price, and there's a good chance that, running windows, it won't get bogged down the way the Macbook does if I have, say, 6 spreadsheets and a couple of word documents open at the same time. But the things that the Macbook does well is that it is small and light enough to carry acceptably, that 13" screen is 1280 X 1024, which means that you can do real work even if you have to squint hard, and the trackpad makes mouseless working tolerable (even though it causes cramp after a couple of hours). And the case is very very nice, and probably the best single feature of the hardware.
So I have a real conundrum - do I replace it with something cheaper running a more useful OS in slightly sub-optimal hardware, or do I go for shiny with the iffy Apple OS (now even iffier with Lion)?
One more thing.
On that £990 price, you need to add 3 years Applecare warranty (essential, I'd say, considering the poor reliability of Apple hardware) if you have any expectations of using the machine for work. You're looking at a realistic starting price of £1300, which is a real professional price, regardless of hardware and OS. That suddenly makes a Dell, top end Acer or Lenovo look a lot more attractive.
What, and you'd rather have a Dell dumbo replace your Motherboard every 6 months?
Look people. The tiresome old PC vs Mac will live on until the geek crowd let go of their need for control. I was never a fan of Apple until I used them. I just get the sense the antiApple crowd do it because it looks cool. No it does not. Take a slice of realism and no non-sense approach here.
I personally would rather pay for quality products in any sector. Especially when you look at several hundreds of pounds,
I had a top of the range Dell XPS 13" laptop. Great design that could of taken Dell into a different market and catchup with Apple's appreciation for design and simplicity. The bigget flaw with it though? A flawed motherboard. These just had a huge failure with the design, especially the GPU overheating even under normal use. All I got was replacement refurbed motherboards that had the same flaw every time. I ended up selling it to some gullible fellow with xtea warranty so they didn't get stuck.
I then turned to Apple and my MacBook of the same nature of this one from almost 3 years ago is still running smoothly, no major issues, upgraded the RAM for 30 quid and should last me another 3. How many Dell's, HP's etc end up on the scrap heap after 1-2 years because of poor design? Loads and I've seen my fair share as a school technician.