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"Since Xerox in 1970s"

Apple ripped off Xerox and no-one else should be allowed to copy them doing so!

"sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1"

You sir, are truly an evil genius.

I doff my cap to you.

You do know that ...

I just have

for the lols

it would be worth getting everyone who hates apple to all send St Jobbs a email with thet offending tag line in the sig, just to see if he would spontaneously combust in his own fit of anger...

Design? What design?

A rectangle with rounded corners? You mean, like every flat screen LCD, LED and plasma screen made over the last how many years?

How exactly did Apple "design" a rectangle?

Re: Nothing evil

the link that you posted looks like, Windows XP vs Android. Android was built from day-one to use a touchscreen, Windows XP wasn't. Plus the older Windows XP tablets were built with cooperates in mind. Those XP tables were meant to allow workers to continue using their ERP from the field, hence the ugly by steady design. You could use those tablets while you are repairing a tank!

sorry mate, wrong example.

own work and designs? LMAO

apple only wishes it was their own design

have a close look at this and then tell me jobs shat out the ipad in a cloud of diamond dust and unicorn vomit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1381528/Knight-Ridder-tablet-looks-just-like-iPad-17-YEARS-OLD.html

i pray for knight-ridder to appear in court when apples lawyers are in full flow and introduce themselves with a polite "excuse me, heres a summons you arrogant tossers."

or perhaps i should just email a copy of that story to the judge concerned and laugh as apple sinks in flames.

Dream On

A quick look on google and I found this from 2007.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9767400-1.html

Rounded corners, shine surface with screen. If touch screen technology was availible then it would have been used. And just for the record Apple pay Creative for nicking its design for its control interface.

Nothing evil about protecting your designs

But quite a lot evil about falsifying evidence to make it look like a competitor's product does precisely ape your design, when in fact it doesn't. It has been proven beyond doubt that Apple did this in their evidence for the German ruling on the Galaxy Tab 10.1.

Here's the simple equation: Apple didn't say a thing about other tablets that look a lot more like the iPad, because they were poorly supported and of not particularly high quality. As soon as there existed a well-supported tablet that matched or surpassed the iPad for spec, Apple cried "patent violation!" and tried to have sale of the offending item banned.

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2001 before ipad http://thumbsnap.com/s/ldbnbopz.png

Re: near enough

I'll give you credit, despite numerous examples, on this thread as well as several others, of tablet computers that look near identical to the iPad, all of which predate the iPad, some by over a decade, you're sticking to your guns.

Good on ya. You hang in there sunshine, you're a credit to your cause.

Dedicated to the Apple viewpoint. Deluded, but dedicated.

Wait, what?

<QUOTE>Just heavy, slow flattened PCs that consumers weren't interested in.</QUOTE>

Yeah, because they were running Windows XP.

I doubt anyone here would really argue that Apple haven't done well to make the tablet form-factor as popular as it is. Well done lads.

<QUOTE>And yes, android was built from day one to use a touchscreen, because it's was built as a copy of iOS. </QUOTE>

So what you're saying is that Android, which was in development long before St. Jobs started Apple going on iOS, copied iOS in having some icons that you press with fingers on a touchscreen device?

And this despite the fact that on Android you get a widget-able homescreen, instead of just the icon-grid when you power on and unlock an iPhone? Aside from having (admittedly) a grid of icons when you open the app drawer on a 'droid handset, but frankly, how else are you going to do it, they bear no resemblance in appearance! And the icon grid has been around for quite some time. Most OSs use it in fact.

<QUOTE>even then, it wasn't designed for tablets and there are still iPad clones out there being released with non tablet versions of Android for unwary consumers to buy thinking they're getting a cheap iPad.</QUOTE>

I'm not sure what your point is here.

Is it that the operating system (Android) designed for a phone OS wasn't suitable for larger, higher resolution tablet screens that weren't out at the time? Then yes, you're right. I seem to recall iOS having a similar problem with apps not working properly on iPads as well... So it needed a software update - big deal. Google have ALWAYS said that pre-3.0 releases weren't for tablets.

And quite how it is the fault of Google that unscrupulous hardware manufacturers KIRFing iPads, I'm not sure.

It's clear you're an Apple fan, and fair enough. Each to their own. Personally, I like the Apple hardware, but that walled-garden puts me off - i'll install whatever I want on *MY* device thanks - as does the fact I'd be forced to use iTunes, which is a horrific piece of software.

But honestly, if you want to pick holes in Android, feel free - you're entitled to your opinion, and there's plenty of legitimate grievances with Android as an OS. But just making crap up makes you look like an idiot.

Gadzooks, what is it with titles?

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Aaron Forthergill

"Ok, a more accurate picture for the iPad side would have simply have been a blank space before the iPad as there weren't any iPad clones (modern tablet computers as you call them) before the iPad. Just heavy, slow flattened PCs that consumers weren't interested in.

And yes, android was built from day one to use a touchscreen, because it's was built as a copy of iOS. even then, it wasn't designed for tablets and there are still iPad clones out there being released with non tablet versions of Android for unwary consumers to buy thinking they're getting a cheap iPad."

Wow. I mean wow. Like really, wow.

I´ve not read anything as surreal as that in quite a while. The last line is simply breathtaking for its, well, craziness.

Don´t let facts...

...stand in the way of a good story.

Ron Fidler, the guy at Knight Ridder behind this, actually had prototypes made. Not mock ups. Prototypes.

There is a huge difference.

remove your blinkers

go take a look at the pictures of the HP tablet that a couple of others have mentioned. Take a good look at it. If you can say that the iPad does not bear any resemblance to the HP, then I call you a liar.

The iPad is as similar to the HP as the Tab is to an iPad.

You can claim that the iPad is thinner, well, what the hell do you expect? It was created over 5 years ago, technology advances, devices get thinner.

@Aaron Fothergill : Nutter or Apple Employee

@Aaron Fothergill, Do you work for Apple or are you one of those religious nutters they talk about here - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/19/fanboi_brain_study/ . Seriously copying the design what rubbish.

How else should a tablet look, its not like a car with a multitude of possibilities. To my memory we didn't see Laptop makers complaining that everyones portable notebook computers looked the same, even though they were. Whether it was a Dell, HP, NEC they all looked the same, pretty boring things, but they all looked the same.

The more and more apple related articles that come up on her the more I'm convinced its one big cult. Who needs a marketing budget when you've got jokers like this prepared to defend every action a company and every product they make. I just dont get it these jokers are defending companies who only motivation is to make money.

Competition is a good thing and outrageous patent claims do nothing to help our interests as consumers. I want choice as a consumer and so do most other people

Deceit is evil

Take a closer, unbiased, look at the pictures in your link:

The old pads...

all have rectangular screens

have rounded corners (except for the ruggedized ones. Note that the top left one has a similar colour edge to the background, making it look like it's not round)

all have flat screens and bezels

are all in landscape mode

The ipad...

has a rectangular screen (check)

has rounded corners (check)

has a flat screen and bezel (check)

Is in portrait mode (INNOVATION!)

The new pads...

have the same feature which the ipad borrowed from pre-existing pads (CHECK)

are not all in landscape mode (COPY)

But what should make you realise you've been had is that 2 of the new pads have been photographed in their native landscape mode and the picture has been rotated to make them look like ipads. How desperate do you have to be to attempt propaganda like that?

If you take 5 cars from the 80s and 5 cars from today you will see definite style differences between the cohorts and similarities within the cohorts. You could pick a car from the 90s and say it was the root of the design from then on, but you could pick any other car and say the same thing. It's not the case that because the entire market moved from similar styles in one decade to other similar styles in another decade that they were all copies of any design from either decade.

You mean, like every flat screen LCD, LED and plasma screen

don't forget pocket calculators.

Aaron check these out..

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=13209924&postcount=110

In your dreams

"There's nothing evil about protecting your work and designs. If it was some little outfit claiming the patent against Apple you'd be praising them as the new messiah."

There is everything evil in getting State to protect "your work" and "your designs". Because it's not "yours" at all - it's built on others' work and others' designs. You have a success and suddenly its "all yours, all of it!"? Sod that.

The market should be about competition and selling things people want. Not about locking out competition and forcing people to only buy your stuff.

It says more than you think

Basically, that link just shows the evolution of tablet designs.

The older technology was heavy so they tended to have handles but that disappeared as things got lighter. The rounded corners that Apple claim are a feature Samsung copied can clearly be seen in pre-iPad designs.

All of the earlier designs also have a screen surrounded by a bezel. Those earlier tablets are running XP and so also show a grid of icons on the desktop when you turn it on.

Of the post-iPad designs, half of them have been rotated 90 degrees to make them look more like the iPad than they actually are and disguise the fact that they all use a widescreen format.

Of course, you'd know all that already if you'd bothered to read the comments under the picture.

He can't be just a troll.

Noway would an iPhony get a signal under a bridge- no matter how you hold it.

Innosheesh

So Toshiba tablets (M200 circa 2004) never auto-rotated to portrait, or landscape depending on how they were held?

I still have mine and it still gives decent service. Ok, so it's a little heavy and gets a little hot and yes it is a quite thick, but it is +7 year old technology and it actually lets me run whatever I want on it (read: do real work) and converts to a real laptop with keyboard at the twist of the screen.

Oh and it has those extra pen buttons off-screen, which you just hover your pen over, to lock caps, control, (or user-defined action), etc. Perhaps Apple will "invent" those too, soon.

Maybe Apple should enforce their patents on thin-ness and cool-ness, which they undoubtedlly have thanks to an idiotic patent office and system.

Actually, rounded corners I'll give them

Apple may not have invented rounded corners on tablets, but when it comes to suing for the copying of design rulings are based solely on multiple points of similarity.

For example, none of the features of the Ford Ka are original to that vehicle; however, if Nissan made a car to an apparently identical design then Ford would be within their rights to sue. Nissan would have to show that their car was significantly different in some way in order to continue selling it.

Where it all falls down for Apple is that the Galaxy Tab does have enough significant differences that it cannot be easily confused with the heilPad. Once that has been established, then Apple could only successfully sue if Samsung had stolen a design feature that was unique to Apple products. Or if they bought the judge, of course.

There is little/nothing that says "I'm a Samsung" about the G. Tab...

... except where it says 'Samsung', both on the bottom of the front, and in big f**kin' letters across the back?

... except it uses the Samsung TouchWiz interface?

... except it's called the Samsung Galaxy Tab, meaning it's a device in the Samsung 'Galaxy' line of Android devices, and is a tablet device?

Well quite.

I'm delighted with my hacked Vega, but I'm extremely tempted by a fondleslab that's good enough to scare Mr Jobbie to this extent...

(Big brother for the irony.)

If it means anything

I picked up the Asus Eeepad Transformer (16Gb, sans keyboard dock), lovely piece of kit despite the lack of 3G. Even apps that aren't made for tablets still look pretty decent. Overall I'm very happy with the purchase and I imagine the Samsung will be even better.