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Utah cops are attempting to identify a man who's unnecessarily spent over three weeks in jail on three minor misdemeanor charges because he refuses to reveal his name. The Utah John Doe's mugshot. Pic: Utah County Sherrifs Office The 60-something, "fairly well spoken and educated" John Doe was cuffed on 1 July for " …

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    1. Trygve Henriksen

      Stranger things have happened...

      Here in Norway it's common to use 'Ola Nordmann' when filling out examples of forms, ID cards and such.

      Which causes no end of grief to the sorry bloke who actually IS named that...

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    My name is...

    Coward, Anonymous Coward.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Joke

      @ My name is...

      "Coward, Anonymous Coward."

      I see my identity has been stolen yet again.

    2. Noons

      Re: My name is...

      You, Sir, have one of the most impressive cases of multiple personality I've ever come across...

  2. Matt Bryant Silver badge
    Boffin

    Reminds me of a short story I read many years ago...

    Sorry, can't remember the author, but I'll certainly go see if I can find the book. The plot is quite simple - the hero is a successful businessman that realises his gold-digging wife is having an affair. He follows her and overhears her and her lover discussing how she is going to take him to the cleaners. Enraged at what he sees as the bias in the law that allows his cheating wife to "steal" his fortune, he decides on a scheme to dispose of all his riches, sells his business for a dollar to his partner, gives his mansion to charity, and then avoids the wife's lawyer by getting himself thrown into prison on a minor misemeanor charge. From there, he refuses to give his name and then deliberately provokes the judge in court, keeping himself in jail until the desperate wife gives up and grants him a divorce without alimony payments. Having served the minimal time for his crime, the man leaves jail and goes to work for his old company, whilst the ex-wife is left penniless.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Ayn Misbehavin'

      That sounds like the Cliff's Notes version of "Atlas Shrugged."

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    another

    Another married man.

    1. MarkieMark1
      Holmes

      Married?

      He's In Utah, there's a good chance he's Married to more than 1 wife – in fact that could be a better reason for his reticence than the policeman's somewhat typically overzealous hunches

      1. MarkieMark1
        WTF?

        thumbs

        so

        1 - the article says the policeman refers to John Doe's 'family background' = evidence of some intrusive questioning, possibly the kind that would lead to a person buttoning it up

        2 - Utah, as we know, contains many Mormons, whose deeper attitude to polygamy is non-mainstream

        3 - the policeman's suspicions of John Doe being some kind of vague unspecified mega-wanted person as a way of overstating his chagrin at the non-cooperation, are a clear sign of overzealousness;

        so I have to infer that the thumbs down are from Mormons? Whoever you are, you seem unwilling to clearly state your contention

        NB as it happens I'm in favor of legal polygamy, in a non-cult setting, particularly given current trends in the definition of marriage

        1. Sam Liddicott

          thumbs up

          I gave him thumbs up and I'm a mormon.

          Mormons who practice polygamy get excommunicated hence polygamists aren't mormon for very long.

          Trivia: Mormon polygamists in the old days had to get permission of the first wife

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    Now

    What if his name really IS John Doe? ;)

  5. Robert Ramsay
    Joke

    I thought...

    ...it was Steve Jobs' Dad.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Unhappy

    Makings for

    This has all the makings for another Rambo movie.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Joke

    I know who he is...

    ...I mean, just look at his photo. It's Spike Milligan - he faked his own death so that people would just finally leave him alone!

  8. tom 24

    I just felt like sleepin'..

    Perhaps he's just stubborn. "I haven't done anything wrong and my name is my own business. I can wait." Here in the USA you're innocent until proven guilty...unless you want privacy, in which case the press can get tetchy.

  9. mac42

    Uh... Hello! Doesn't law enforcement watch the history channel?

    Three Words. D. B. Cooper.

    1. Martin Budden Silver badge
      Holmes

      OMFG you are right!

      Compare the mugshot of the guy in custody with the age-progressed sketch of D. B. Cooper: they look the same!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper#Theories.2C_conjectures

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Black Helicopters

    Interesting idea, this one

    To me it's quite obvious that police is going to keep this guy in jail without a charge forever.

    He's "not cooperative" or something totally ludicrous and that justifies easily 20-50 years in prison, in any modern court in so called "western countries", i.e. police states. Any of them.

    Resisting police is the biggest crime you can do and the penalty is either death or lifetime in prison and the method of the resistance is irrelevant: Keeping silent is as good as shooting back, police don't care: Resistance, any resistance, is not tolerated at all: Total nazism is the name of the game.

  11. Peter Murphy
    Coat

    I should read the headline more carefully.

    I originally read it as "Utah cops baffled in case of mysterious anonymous coffee". I can see the news interview now...

    "We found this man dumping beans in our police station. We don't know what brand it is, but Forensics reveals that it's 100% Arabica. Upon further investigation (consisting of grinding them up, and purchase of an Expresso machine from petty cash), we found that the resulting brew was better than Starbucks."

    1. Decius

      Espresso

      After further research, the make-it-go-faster machine was junked and an espresso machine was purchased. The motor oil that the previous machine produced was still found better than Starbucks.

  12. Mr. Ed

    Here's a simple idea

    Leave the guy alone. Until a couple of years ago it was no crime at all in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave to refuse to give one's name to the police. Now, in the Land of the Fearful a guy gets put in jail for it? For how long??? Why don't these Official Busybodies go back to the donut shop and leave us the heck alone.

    1. Matt Bryant Silver badge
      FAIL

      RE: Here's a simple idea

      Here's a simpler idea - read the article! He was arrested for trespass, not for anything to do with not giving his name.

    2. Decius

      Do the crime, do the time...

      How, exactly, can you justify setting bail for someone who refuses to identify himself? The absolute highest you could set bail would be the the cash he had on him... and no way to issue a bench warrant if he skipped.

      No, this guy is either proving a point, pulling a prank, or an investigative reporter.

      1. Matt Bryant Silver badge
        FAIL

        RE: Do the crime, do the time...

        "How, exactly, can you justify setting bail for someone who refuses to identify himself?...." Ooh, I don't know, how about failure to co-operate with an investigation? Contempt of court (if he didn't supply a name when requested in the bail hearing)? IANAL but you are obviously also NAL and not given to much thought before posting.

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