Mumsnet founder: Our members are 'very keen' on PORN ...

Hot housewife action???

I'd suggest you go the MN's forum and read a select few 'Am I being unreasonable' posts.

I can guarantee any with to have to 'housewife action' will soon have their ardour dampened.

mumsnet - where harpies go to, well, harp.

As a certain musical would have it...

The Internet is for Porn!

Piss off!

I have taken my kids to galleries and they snigger a bit when they see a nude statue or portrait but we simply go "Yeah, yeah they haven't got clothes, we all look the same in the shower. Very funny.". Same when my kids see underwear ads, we get 10 secs of "They're in their pants!", then it's done and we all grow up. I can probably assume they a very large percentage of other parents it's much the same, it's the way you teach kids to grow up. You introduce things very gradually, have a laugh about it and so each time it's less embarassing than the last time you saw it.

Despite what this self-important "yummy-mummy" thinks, we don't all sit our kids down in front of the PC and show them "www,doing-it-with-donkeys.com" as way of teaching them facts of life! FFS! Most of us are quite capable of knowing what is and is not suitable for our kids and we know when they're ready for the next stage of life. We also have the intelligence to try take precautions to ensure they don't get a face full of "60 Plus" when they least expect it.

I know that some parents don't know when it's too much, like the assistant nurse I met in hospital thought it was hilarious that her 4 year old could shout "fuck" a lot, but why do the rest of us have to have our lives dictated to because a few morons don't have a f**king clue how to bring up their kids.

George Carlin said, "Save the children, save the children! Fuck the children, they're getting way too much attention! Hats for cycling, baseball, skateboarding sooner or later they're going to need hats to jerk off! You can't save 'em all, some unfortunate ones are going to slip through the net, that's a sad fact of life and natural selection."

Dear mumsnet

Why don't you hire some application developers to create a mumsnetguard tool to install on windows/linux/mac machines so that it can filter according to mumsnet rules and protect the pc user (from themselves, presumably).

Or, you could pay a hardware company to develop custom mumsnet firmware for their adsl router that has a mumsnetguard option built in and enabled by default, thus protecting the whole network at connection source.

Or, just maybe, you already looked into all this and shat yourselves when you saw how much it would cost and decided it was far cheaper and there was more media inches to be gleaned from whinging like a bunch of ineffectual attention-seeking bastards who want to delegate all responsibility for parenting away from actual parents.

So, in summary....

GET A CLUE OR FUCK OFF

Tards.

As an ISP....

(long time ago)

I used to tell people "The internet has some of the deepest darkest recessess of humanity on it. Filters often don't work and kids usually see them as a challenge to be bypassed. If you want to make sure they're safe, don't let them use the 'net unsupervised"

regulators to come up with a solution?

"I think the regulators should put pressure on the people involved, the ISPs to come up with a solution to this."

How about OpenDNS configured at the router not on the desktop computer where little johnny knows more than his parents about how to bypass it.

http://www.opendns.com/familyshield/

Dear mumsnet

K9 protection.

It's free, it's simple, it works. What more do you need?

Oh you DO have to download it and click a few buttons.

Sorry my mistake. Best go with a costly unamanagble, over comlex solution instead.

Start censoring their own site first

mumsnet.com is littered with swear words, all searchable by their little darlings. When did the founders become spokespeople for anyone or anything anyway? I wish the media would stop asking for their worthless opinions.

Daughter of Mrs Whitehouse, I presume?

Now that's a scary thought.

Mumsnet internet security/parental control advice section??

I may be missing the point...but couldn't Mumsnet have a whole section about how to ensure children don't see stuff on the internet.. I understand Mumsnet is a forum, but would it be that difficult to have some articles, do a deal with some parental control software provider...

One handy by product of this is that ;-

1) We don't have flame between 'parents are bad' etc

2) The phrase "wont somebody do something" (but we dont know what so "regulate"), no longer applies.

3) Perhaps given a shinning example of how to help yourself, others may be more amenable to the mumsnet point of view.

Oh the irony...

...I'm guessing from the article that some mumsnet users have used the forum to attack the parents of Madeleine McCann for not supervising their child. I really hope these aren't the same parents that can't even be arsed to supervise their own children's Net use.

Stop using the Internet as a babysitter

It's not Cbeebies!

Trekkie sang it best...

In Avenue Q: #The Internet is for Porn!#

Just more evidence of the wider problems

Sorry but this touches a nerve with me and hence this'll be a bit of a rant in places.

Personally, I feel that the only legislation required here is one which makes parents be responsible and accountable.

You don't need technology for this*, just (un)common sense. Put the computer where you can see it.

It really does feel like we're breeding generation after generation of mindless idiot drones who understand absolutely nothing about personal responsibility (warning: contents may be hot on a McDonald's cup of tea or coffee...well it f*cking ought to be otherwise, why would I have bought it springs to mind as an example).

Isn't it just another brick in the wall of a complete breakdown of society?

Like these parents that say things like "My little Tommy is a good lad/is uncontrollable" (delete as appropriate)...what a load of garbage - YOU are the adult and YOU are the parent. Make time for them, give them the attention kids deserve and need, help them be a kid for as long as possible (you're a long time as an adult if you're lucky) and BE ACCOUNTABLE. Children turn out the way they do because of how they're brought up, not because of the state or because someone (be it an ISP or a video game producer or the government etc) "lets them down" and/or "corrupts their minds".

If little Tommy starts breaking and entering at age 12, then take a two-pronged approach. One - the time they should serve simply accrues until they hit 16 and they do it all concurrently. Two - the parents should be made accountable and if necessary, punished. I bet it wouldn't take long before they started to make their kids behave a bit better?

My eldest son is 9 soon. He can't add friends to his XBox without my password (he doesn't know it).

He can't use a computer unless it's where I or his mum can see it.

He isn't out wandering the streets at 10pm.

We spend time together - walks, the park playing football, board games etc as a family.

It ain't fecking rocket science, just (un)common sense.

Sorry but these self-proclaimed "experts" (in what, exactly? What're your qualifications in this particular field, Justine? You founded a website for mums...wow) and people who pass the buck really get up my nose. If you're a parent, then in terms of your child's behaviour and well-being, the buck stops with you.

*Yes I realise there is technology available and K9 web protection is great for this, BUT it doesn't need to be used.

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Parental Controls?

Don't make me laugh. The kind of parents who are worried about their children accessing undesirable content and demanding technology solutions are probably those that leave their children to browse the internet unsupervised. Many of those parents probably have a limited knowledge of technology, so would set the Parental Controls password to something simple like their car registration number or date of birth.

Several years ago, I was a school IT technician. Despite a combination of county-wide and school-wide filters, it was still possible for some pupils (oddly enough, quite often in the "Alternative Curriculum" group for whom a full GCSE course was considered too demanding) to access material that they shouldn't. Web games such as Line Rider and The Adrenaline Challenge (some kind of BMX platform game - IMHO more like Watching Paint Dry Challenge) were endlessly popular, and available on an almost endless variety of websites so as soon as you blocked one, the next day the grapevine would have given everyone another half dozen URLs to try. Another popular activity was finding unblocked online proxies, so they could access Bebo or Meebo.

If they can do that at school, what's the betting they'll easily be able to evade parental controls at home?

Rebecca black Parody

Gotta make my mind up which hand will I use?

It's Friday, Friday

Gettin off On friday

Everybody's lookin forward to the porn fest, porn fest

Paris because...well that should be obvious.

"Concerned parents" are the worst kind

Someone who is enough of a "concerned parent" to be this deeply involved in censorship discussions (at a national level, no less) should have realized by now that the best, most reliable way to protect your young'uns from objectionable internet content is to take responsibility for it yourself instead of expecting society at large to do the parenting for you because you're too busy posting to a parenting forum and going on moral "think of the children" crusades to actually be a parent.

Justine Roberts

Apparently this woman has four children. The only content blocking needed here is around her vagina.

"I agree that this woman from Mumsnet has as much right to her opinion as everyone else, "

But in a fair society *no* more.

That is all.

K9 protection?

You mean it only block zoo p()rn?

The UK government needs a single, coherent policy

My understanding is that UK law holds that websites that host chatrooms, such as this, are not responsible for content UNLESS they actively edit content.

Then people want ISPs, etc. to get in the business of moderating websites their users access, which, IMO, puts their heads in line for potential legal action.

On the other hand telco's are completely free of these encumbrances if their users plan so called acts of terrorism or just a simple break and enter.

Both classes of entity are 'common carriers'. Maybe the government could hold electricity supply companies responsible for supplying electricity to a indoor marijuana growing operation?

the only good porn

is well, all of it; just some it better than others you know.

should it be

MILFnet