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"He posted some dodgy coupons on a dodgy website where eveyone knew they were counterfeit"
True. If he'd posted real coupons he'd have left himself open to a charge under the Trades Description Act.
A computer science student has been charged with fraud and counterfeiting for allegedly posting hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of bogus coupons on 4chan and other websites. Lucas Townsend Henderson, 22, of Lubbock, Texas, was charged with wire fraud and trafficking in counterfeit goods in a criminal complaint unsealed …
I remember seeing these. They were very well done and there were instructions provided on how to create your own coupons. The person posting also gave helpful information like print of a bunch of them and give them away to other people in the supermarket or put them under wind screen wipers. so when you walk up to a checkout with the same coupon it doesn't seem so strange.
I was never convinced they would work for the high ticket price items such as xboxes but people replied saying they did. Then again it was 4chan so I didn't believe them either.
He's being persecuted for being smarter than big business, and wanting to share his knowledge.
Why is it illegal to find a loop hole and use it, rather than it being a legal requirement to secure your business practices?
Think about it. Blindly shouting "it's against the law" or comparing to other crimes is moronic. Perhaps, some laws are wrong, and we need to think about and change them?
seriously??
you dont think using these coupons is just out and out theft?
If you're selling your car and I give you £10,000 , then you take that cash to the bank and they confiscate it as fake - you'd be ok with that?
You'd say "well gosh darn , that cunning customer got the best of me and no mistake! hats off to the fellow!" ??
"some laws are wrong" . maybe but theft of property isnt one of them.
"Think about it. Blindly shouting "it's against the law" or comparing to other crimes is moronic. Perhaps, some laws are wrong, and we need to think about and change them?"
You remind me of the freetards who post copyrighted music videos on Youtube or the like with the comment "no copyright infringement intended! srsly!" Just because you say something should be legal, doesn't make it legal.
... who wanted to keep slavery legal.
This has got nothing to do with piracy. You also besmirch yourself by using the term freetard.
You know you're running out of legitimate argument when poor analogies and name calling come in to play.
Laws are man-made and do not always accurately portray real right and wrong. All I asked was you think about it. Clearly, you did not.
He's not being persecuted for being "smarter than big business"; he's being prosecuted for making it possible to defraud various companies out of a couple hundred grand.
Now I realize it's in vogue to imagine that every corporation is made out of Satan and all his demons, and in a lot of cases I'd be willing to grant the point when it comes to the occupants of the executive suites. But every corporation also has real human beings working for it, down at the lower levels where shit actually has to get done; since they have no collective bargaining power any more, guess who gets screwed first last and always when the profit margin takes a hit? But hey, that doesn't matter, FUCK THE MAN WOOO
As for the rest, I'll just assume that when somebody cons you out of a few grand and then gets busted for it, you'll testify in his defense that he's just being persecuted for being "smarter than you".
... he was smarter than big business?
Making 'something possible' should not be illegal, especially when the something involves an unsecured broken system.
Interesting you're also defending a system you admit has people at the top doing nothing, and hard working individual at the bottom doing 'shit'.
TRWTF is the idea that implementing a zillion bucks' worth of infrastructure, to combat a few million in coupon fraud a year, would make any kind of sense for an individual store/manufacturer pair, or indeed for all of them in the aggregate. It's not costing any one organization enough to be worth that kind of expenditure, or they'd already be doing it; why then assume that it's what the entire industry needs?
Besides which, most of the time people with bogus coupons don't even realize it, and they genuinely aren't at fault because expecting people to do an hour's due diligence on every coupon they intend to use is the sort of thing which, in a just world, would fetch you a smart slap across the mouth. Screwing them over at the POS for something that isn't their fault will accomplish nothing save to piss off the customer, who will piss off the cashier, the store manager, and everyone else within earshot before departing the store for its friendlier competitor.
Seriously, some people in here are talking so little sense on this subject that you'd think they'd never had a job.
Try coming up with one for a fraudulent coupon.
And by your own excuse for reasoning: The people who printed off the coupons wouldn't have been able to do so in the first place, had it not been for the incredible dipshit under discussion here. That makes him the fraudster, surely.