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We're obliged to all those readers who took the time to throw over their nominations for the best sci-fi film never made, and we're delighted to report that we've whittled the contenders down to a final 50. We simply waded through all your emails and comments and picked those titles which had received the most support. On …

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        1. Morteus

          tsk... sloppy research

          OK, I'm a bit confused here... The second from last book "Who goes there?" is listed as being written by Bob Shaw. I asumed at firdt that this was the one that the classic movie "The thing from another world" was based upon, but that is credited to Don A Stuart, aka John W Campbell Jr. I can't find anything by that title credited to a Bob Shaw, so what gives?

      1. Sir Runcible Spoon
        Headmaster

        Sir

        "The pole was for the greatest sci-fi films NEVER made"

        Are you going to tell him, or am I? :)

      2. jeffo

        oops!

        Just shows that we often just think we understand what we read, particularly with common phrases...

    1. Loyal Commenter Silver badge
      Troll

      I'm not sure

      I can think of any polish sci-fi films that should be made into books...

    2. Tony S
      Headmaster

      Extreme fail

      Not only for not reading the article, but for the incorrect spelling of "poll" as in Polling or voting

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll

      (Of course this could also be the pole which is actually a LART = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lart)

      There are actually some pretty good bookson that list. Hopefully those on the final list will be awesome. Of course that doesn't mean any of them will actually become films - the Hollywoods suits are just that concerned about the story anymore, it's all about playing it safe by rehashing stories from the past.

      I remember seeing a reference to Rocky XXXII in one film- can't recall what it was. I wouldn't bet against seeing that released one day, even if Stallone is dead and decaying.

      1. Colin Brett

        Future Rocky movies ...

        "I remember seeing a reference to Rocky XXXII in one film- can't recall what it was. I wouldn't bet against seeing that released one day, even if Stallone is dead and decaying."

        I think it was Airplane 2.

        Colin

        1. Tom 13

          Maybe. It was definitely

          a throw away shot in Back to the Future II, a mostly forgettable film and important only because it sets up III which was a much better one.

  1. Charlie_Manson
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    Excellent List

    Some excellent books here that I have read. Though lots more I am going to add to my list!.

  2. A. Lewis
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    Darn

    I missed this original article. Some nice suggestions there though.

    I know you're not looking for any more, but I reckon "The light of other days" by Stephen Baxter and Arthur C Clarke would make a cracking film!

  3. The Fuzzy Wotnot
    Happy

    Wow!

    "The Chrysalids", I remember reading that at school, back when teachers were still allowed to encourage students to think creatively, not just pump 'em full of facts and make them take exams to get government figures up to spec.

    Anyway you know full well the second they made of those into films they would be massive abominations with way too much CGI and big named talent that has none to speak of!

    1. Charlie_Manson

      Of Ape and Essence

      If you liked The Chrysalids, check out this one by Huxley. That will NEVER be made into a film because of his depiction of the film industry in the first chapter.

  4. Richard Jukes

    ERM WTF??

    No Foundation? Lame. Very lame. NO SERIOUSLY LAME.

    I vote for the Foundation Triology*

    *Yes, not really a triology but I still vote for it.

    1. Uncle Slacky Silver badge
      FAIL

      These *didn't* make the shortlist...

      ...ergo, you're still in with a chance at the final 50. Doesn't anyone read the article? This isn't Slashdot, you know.

    2. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

      Foundation was a trilogy

      for many, many years, before dear old Isaac (bog rest his overworked imagination) decided to go down the future history route, and tie all of his series together. Hardcore Asimov fans don't think of the later books as canon.

      It was interesting to see how he did it while the books were being first published, but in hindsight, I think it would have been better keeping R. Daneel Olivaw out of the Foundation stories. It all feels a bit contrived now.

      Still, I think that it could be good, but would end up a bit slow for the Michael Bay and Jerry Bruckheimer generations.

      I wish the BBC dramatisation of "Caves of Steel" still existed somewhere. If someone has it, they would be a real hero!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Pirate

        BBC Radio dramatisation of Isaac Asimovs 1958 novel "The Caves of Steel". Broadcast on BBC Radio 4

        This is available via thebox.bz

        1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge
          FAIL

          @AC re Caves of Steel

          Not the radio version, the 1964 TV adaptation by Terry Nation, and starring Peter Cushing. Read the article on Wikipedia. Only a minute or so of clips remain.

    3. hitmouse

      Not really a triology

      More a trilogy

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hmmmm...... Hamilton's Void trilogy lacks quite a bit of context

    Without first having Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained. Perhaps all five should be made it to film. Besides, Morning Light Mountain would be a formidable film baddie!

    1. Rattus Rattus

      Eh?

      Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained are in a totally different alternate-future to the Void trilogy. I don't get what you mean about context.

      1. Ian Yates

        Are you sure?

        The Void trilogy is set over a thousand years after Judas Unchained, still prominently featuring Paula Myo and a few other characters.

        Maybe you're thinking of The Night's Dawn trilogy, which is in a different universe?

  6. Richard Jukes
    FAIL

    heh

    Note to self, read article properly first.

  7. Blofeld's Cat
    Pint

    My suggestion didn't make the cut but...

    That's my reading list sorted out for the next year or so.

    Looking forward to the Top 50.

  8. Tom Jasper

    Stand here

    Huh? Some mistake, Shirley.

    Stand on Zanzibar by the late John Brunner is the movie that I dream of being made.

    Agreed that Halo Jones should never ever be made - but just maybe `Hangin Out with Halo Jones` should be played every day...

    And we need Mr Mulligan today

    1. It'sa Mea... Mario
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      Upvoted..

      for Transvision Vamp reference and suggestion that they should be played every day!

      Oh where art thou Wendy...?

  9. Stewart Knight

    Still got fingers crossed

    for EE Doc Smith!!!

    1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

      Wow.

      Galactic Patrol would be great, and contains enough action to satisfy Hollywood's CGI lust. Imagine how you cool you could make Worsel the Valentian!

    2. IsJustabloke
      Stop

      I refuse to enoble a simple forum post!

      NO.

    3. Stevie

      Bah!

      That would be sheerly, starkly unthinkable.

  10. Sulehir
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    Thank you

    For removing Thomas Covenant from the final contenders, most depressing books ever written!

    1. Michael 28
      Happy

      One man's air is another man's poison...

      ...and i thought Nevil Shute's "On The Beach" one of the most depressing books ever.. and it still managed to get made into a film, despite the lack of a happy ending. Still, a remake would probably include zombies and cannibalism, methinks , if made by hollywood..(. they certainly missed the point with "Watchmen"... No wonder Alan Moore gets p*ssed off)

    2. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

      Thomas Covenant

      Totally agree. Mind you, I learnt more about Leprosy from the first book than from the previous 15 years of education.

    3. IsJustabloke
      Megaphone

      I refuse to enoble a simple forum post!

      oh I dunno... I thought the 1st Chronicles pretty good.. abit wordy and overlong in places but thats a matter of taste/ editing rather then a specific complaint about the writing.

      The 2nd Chronicles OTH were an abomination that should never haveseen the light of day.... not unlike the Gap series.....

  11. CD001

    HmmKay

    Not read much on that list but of those I have I tend to think they'd make pretty awful films...

    The Kim Stanley Robinson "Mars" series would be sooooo monumentally plodding and uneventful on the big screen... and as for anything by William Gibson, be careful what you wish for, remember Johnny Mnemonic?

    Should be onto a pretty safe bet with Philip K Dick though ;)

    1. Paul RND*1000

      As much as I like KSR's Mars trilogy...

      ...I have to agree it might not work too well as a movie trilogy. With competent editing it could make a good miniseries, though.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Not nearly enough Neal Asher in that list!

    Neal Asher writes high octane, pacy, technoturbocharged action splatfests! They're just crying out to be turned into films.

    (I'd still love to see someone try to squeeze PFH's 'Void' trilogy into a nice little nine hour flick though).

    1. Richard Brown
      Happy

      Thanks!

      Just looked Neal Asher up cos of your pithy review of his work.

      Sounds just my cup of tea, must go and buy some of his books and support a fellow Essex man.

    2. Steve John
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      Neal Asher

      Just finishing the last but one of his Polity novels (The Technician) and the last one is in the post from Amazon (Hilldiggers). All have been stonking good reads. Prador Moon, Shadow of the Scorpion and The Skinner stand out for me.

  13. Vince Lewis 1
    Unhappy

    I feel a trip to the library comming on...

    I feel rather like an unread, uneducated buffoon. From that list I've only read Vurt and Only Forward ... and that was a very long time ago. Though after reading Only Forward a lamppost did give me a compliment on my shoes.

    1. ArmanX
      Unhappy

      I keep thinking "I need to read these books."

      This is always followed with, "Hey, I could check it out at the library! Sweet!"

      And then, "Oh, right, our library is utterly useless, and couldn't mail-order a book to save their lives."

      I grew up with an awesome library, so having the only library in town be a complete waste of time is saddening... and also has put a severe dent in my reading. I'm now limited by budget, rather than check-out limit.

  14. Graham Bartlett

    Erm, what?!

    Thomas Covenant as sci-fi?! I think not. Hell, if that's sci-fi then I might as well have suggested Agatha Christie. Good job it got rejected early, for the person concerned not having RTFA, or indeed RTFbook.

    Agreed that most of the books there are decent enough, but either

    - aren't that good as fiction (step forward Heinlein, Clarke, Asimov, Bova and Robinson);

    - are too damn long (Tad Williams, I'm looking at you)

    - are too much of their time and wouldn't translate to today (Ubik)

    - wouldn't work as films (The Difference Engine, Ubik, Out of the Silent Planet)

    But if the Atrocity Archives isn't in the shortlist, Mr Flibble will be very unhappy...

  15. noroimusha
    Alien

    hey

    How come these did not make it ?

    The Caves of Steel – Isaac Asimov

    The Invincible – Stanislaw Lem

    The Difference Engine – William Gibson and Bruce Sterling

    all these are incredibly good books

  16. Anonymous Coward
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    @sulehir

    abso-bloody-lutely!

    FFS save us all from tripe, sub-sub-sub Tolkien, so-so low as not even to be a worthy part of a coal seam deep beneath a blackwell's basement while it still honours a single page of 'The Hobbit' lying obscured, discarded and unloved behind a mass of Social Science research. Not to mention its puerile, nauseating, whinging one-dimensional arsehole of a main character who somehow succeeds in making mycobacterium leprae an even worse horror than it is already... of course with this being Hollywood the Reg has saved us 10 TIMES from the horror of emerging from 'The Land' (I mean, FFS! What imagination!) with slashed wrists and neck burns, ankle deep in the mantraps intended to keep us in the Cinema. Yet alone the directors uncut (we stole the razorblades) 30 Bluray boxed set special edition!!

    1. IsJustabloke
      Joke

      I refuse to enoble a simple forum post!

      not a fan then?

  17. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

    Sorry to see

    Transistion didn't make the cut, although I'm not sure how the hell one might make it into a film without being far to confusing... I'm guessing from the absence of Matter, or of The Algebraist on the list of also-rans, that these are still in contention?

  18. Robert Hill
    Alien

    Great stories in this list...

    Hinterlands, Integral Trees, Have Spacesuit, Difference Engine, even Iceworld...those that haven't read this list should not be put off from their rejection.

    But I agree, none of these would make compelling movies these days...either too depressing, intellectual, or simply already done in other ways.

    But you didn't list Niven's "Protector", so I still have hope for my nomination... :-)

    1. Ian Michael Gumby
      Boffin

      Larry Niven?

      I'm disappointed in that some of Niven's collaborative works got mentioned while a lot of his works from the 70's and 80's did not. Personally I didn't really care for some of his collaborative works...

      Niven created an alternative universe which could be made in to both a TV series as well as a series of movies. Protector fits in to Ringworld, Ringworld Engineers, etc...

      'A world out of time' also ties in to his earlier works but some of his themes might be too adult for the mainstream audience.

      Like others of his era, they use Science Fiction/Fantasy to explore the changes in their current society. (Like the episode of Star Trek where two guys have 1/2 of their face painted Black and the other white... only they are mirror images of themselves trying to question the issue of race... (Stuff like that....) )

      So if you have to choose, try and find stories that are:

      1) relevant to today's society and social issues.

      2) have enough action to satisfy Hollywood.

      3) have some bits of drama and comedy intermixed.

      I mean there are literally 100's of great stories that could be adapted to tv and movies. Even a safe bet and much better than remaking movies that were done 20-30 years ago and even some of them were remakes of moves from the 20's, 30's and 40's.

      I agree that Larry Niven's works would translate well.

  19. andy gibson

    Good Novella

    A favourite novella of mine was the one which came with the computer game DRILLER circa 1987:

    http://www.sanfransys.com/homepages/level9/driller.htm

  20. Herer

    thargoid invasion

    I remember The Dark Wheel novella with my copy of Elite on the Acorn.

    Those bundled novellas were great. I remember loving the Starglider story, whatever that was called.

    Memorable value added extras.

    1. Dave Lawton

      @ Herer

      The Starglider story - you probably mean Arthur C. Clarke's The Fountains of Paradise, only made the also-ran list :(

  21. anarchic-teapot

    Ubik didn't make it?

    I dunno, there's bits in the Dr Who Vashta Nerada two-parter that made me think of Ubik. So maybe in a way it's already been done.

    Proper nightmare fodder, that.

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