Apple CEO Steve Jobs told staff at the company today that he was taking a "medical leave of absence". He did not reveal specifics about why he had been given time off from the Mac and iPhone maker. "At my request, the board of directors has granted me a medical leave of absence so I can focus on my health. I will continue as …
I can agree to an extent with all your points except the "magical" iPad comment.
I've actually used one, I just don't see what's so great about it. Too big to be a phone, not powerful enough to be a laptop.
iPhone -yes, Mac - yes, iPad -eh?
(Note - I own no Apple devices, although I've no problem buying them for my wife.)
re: you cant deny
I'm pretty sure Apple users won't thank you for referring to them as "average people".
I'm a PC - but Windows-free.
Those IBM keyboards were great and if Jobs had a major part to play in the deterioration of keyboard quality over the years (and Mac keyboards are pretty awful, particularly on their laptops) then that's a rare black mark on his record of changes to the user interface.
Some classy comments here, nothing funnier than a man struggling to fight cancer eh?
Welcome to cynicism in the 21st centaury.....
And no one does it better than commentards on El Reg.
Aaahhh - some empathy!
I wish him well and I don't care which fanboi device I have. After all - it's not very nice being ill.
Wouldn't wish it on anyone
Having see a few friends and loved ones go through it, I wouldn't wish cancer on my worst enemy. The very best of luck to him.
However, that's kinda not the point. Steve Jobs is two entities - he is a private individual, one of 6.8 billion on the planet, in which capacity it's sad that he's ill, but I'm not going to pretend he deserves any more of my time or emotions than any one of the other 6.8 billion people who I have never met, and never will meet, when they get sick and, eventually, die.
In his other persona, he is the boss of a company in the industry I've worked in for thirty years. And as such, my immediate response is *always* going to be "How does this impact my industry, my working practices, my finances."
Sorry if anyone finds that offensive, it's just the way of the world. If you want to fly out to Cupertino and lay a bunch of flowers on his grave, be my guest, although personally I'd rather you didn't unless you actually know him personally and are grieving for him, rather than the horribly mawkish way we have developed since St. Diana died of projecting our un-expressed grief from people we do know onto celebrities who we don't know.
I always thought he came back too soon after the first liver op...and at CEO level too, so the schedule will be demanding.
The docs probably told him to take it easy for a good while, but he probably ignored them and went back to work anyway. And I imagine his best-money-can-afford variety wouldn't be partial to getting things wrong (unlike our megrahi-releasing NHS types).
And now he's suffering for it.
Obvously - we won't know for sure, but that's my bet.
Note to Steve: when the docs tell you to rest....rest!
"respect for our privacy"
Guess he doesnt use an iPhone then.
Anyway, get well.
There aren't many folks like Jobs.
OK, I've described the iPhone as a 'Jobsworth' in the past forums, but...
Jobs, Gates, Sinclair and Sugar (no joke), Moore, Hewlett, Packard, Whittle, Baird, Marconi, Kernighan, Richie, Ollila etc., are individuals who have changed our lives irrevocably.
If not for them, most of us'd be growing veg/milking cows on a farm. (Why, neither Facebook, spam or cheap Viagra would exist. Erm...nobody's perfect...)
They're just a handful of high-achievers - visionaries, if you will, we should be a bit kinder here...
You forgot Cerf...
re: If not for them
ITYF it was the industrial revolution of the 18th and 19th centuries that got us off the farm, not the technological revolution of the second half of the 20th century.
You forgot Pincus
...as in Mark Pincus - founder of Zynga, who's the reason we're STILL growing veg/milking cows on a farm.
"...Marconi, Kernighan, Richie, Ollila etc.,..."
Lionel Richie impacted many people's lives. Unless you meant Dennis Ritchie.
Sorry, I had to do it.
What about Woz? Without him Steve Jobs would have had nothing
And you also forgot..
our dear friend Mr Tesla of course
That's why I put "etc" after the list. Other folks crowding me to use the pub computer, so I thought I'd better keep it short. After all, many of the throng glaring at me had big tattoos, big biceps and big bikes.
But, yeah, there were hundreds more. James Hargreaves springs to mind for contributing to the Industrial Revolution.
("Ohh, Luxury, lad. In't mornin', I'd get up before I went to bed, just to lick t' jenny* clean". "That's Owt! You 'ad it easy. Me dad sent me down t' pit when I was only 5, I finally got out after 30 years, and found that bloody Thatcher woman at' top!" - etc..)
Hope its not serious
I, for one, dont' want to make snarky comments about share prices or dividends.
He's someone's son, someone's father, and someone's husband, and I hope he gets well soon.
And, yes, I admire what he has done for his company, but that's his business, not mine.
as I have written elsewhere....
I admit I am not a fan of Apple (in particular the way Apple do things) but there is no denying that Android simply could not have happened (or rather it wouldn't be where it is today) if the iPhone had not been marketed as a smartphone for the general user (as opposed to just the rich business types).
As for Steve - regardless of what is wrong with him - I really can't understand why people are not being more compassionate?
Yes, he is ill, and that's a shame, however he is the CEO of a company which provides employment for thousands.
If his health is such an issue that he cannot continue to lead the company on an ongoing basis then it is understandable that people who own the company, and are employed by it, are concerned about what plans are in place if his health continues to deteriorate.
Get well soon
There's a world of difference between "liking" something and "respecting" it.
I don't like many of apple's products, but I think they do what they do very well. Just because they don't suit me doesn't mean I can't admire them for what they do, especially for the technically challenged.
Same goes for Steve, he comes across as an arrogant cock, but you have to respect him if you have the slightest interest in tech.
So unless you think being an arrogant cock should be a capital offence then the only decent* thing is to wish him well.
(*which is why the sort that bang on about their shares will continue to do so)
Let's hope Body Spare Parts Inc warranty is handled better than Apples
If Jobs is headed back for warranty work on the spare parts he was given, it is (remotely) possible he will gain understanding of how his customers view warranties and get tired of having to sign non-disclosure forms and fight for their rights.
The union shareholders demand for succession plans is quiet prescient and deserves an answer as Apple is, supposedly, a public company.
Jobs, in asking people to respect his privacy, is asking too much, given how much data he collects on others.
Of course, it's entirely possible....
....that he's just got a bit of 'flu.
All it means is his prototype iPad2 is ready and he wants a week lazing in bed to play with it.
I'm not being funny when I say ...
It probably *isn't* anything to do with his liver -- I think its mental. He's probably stressed out to the max and that is having a major downer on his physical and mental state.
Meanwhile, though, I wish Apple would just fix iChoonz 10.1.1 and the airport update which has completely borked my other half's Mac. That's just as important to me, 'cos I'm tired of fucking about with it.
Aren't they the "Macs, they just work" brigade, after all?
a wish of good health
Aside from the fact that I personally do not agree with Apple policies (and no I do not own any Apple products), I very much appreciate what Apple has done.
Apple has shown the world that if you develop good products you can be successful without paying money to Microsoft. And that is very important.
As a consumer you always want choices. Those idiots working for Microsoft that claim otherwise are just Microsoft employees afraid to identify themselves for fear of being disbelieved. Besides they know fraud works better for Microsoft than anything. Force everyone to buy Internet Explorer and just lie to them about why. Consumers are idiots anyway. They believe anything. Fraud does work. There is no doubt about that. Even incompetient managers know that.
But, as for Steve Jobs personally, I wish him good health. Besides the industry needs more people who will take the initiative to satisfy consumer's needs as opposed to ignore them and try to force the consumer. Apple does that too by the way. So the name Jesus phone does not really fit the company. But, Apple has been necessary for the industry.
Who are those idiots that buy inferior products simply because Microosoft is trying to sell them? Or, not trying to sell them because they know the consumer is forced to buy them? Do you remember any advertisement for Internet Explorer? You do not see them for other browsers either but they are all either free or bundled with the OS. (Even Apple bundles Safari.) Yet, no one in the industry will dispute that the browser is a key product.
Why is the choice of a key product outside the choice of any and all consumers? First you must buy the illegally bundled one. And only then can you get a second car free.
You have to be idiot to not know that illegal activity is prevelent and controlling YOU.
But, Apple has shown that you can develop any number of products in the industry and be successful. And that after all is what is important about Apple.
He'll be back . . .
as an Android.
I haven't bot any Apple stuff since the first time he left, at Sculley's urging,
but I hope he gets well and doesn't croak before I buy an iWUTZIt.
Steve, get well soon
He has been a visionary that propelled the industry forward.
I wish him full recovery soon.
Microsoft was able to postpone dividends for quit some time. But when the share tanked they had to give up, and start paying (first a very lousy) dividend.
This will happen to Apple too, eventually
Get well Jobs.
COO, not CEO
"I have asked Tim Cook to be responsible for all of Apple’s day to day operations"
Tim Cook is Apple's COO, and so should already been responsible for day to day ops... Under normal circumstances at Apple, the COO's job must be a doddle with Steve around...
how long did he deny paternity for again?
"I had a vasectomy y'honour, can't possibly be mine....let the mother & child remain in poverty"
yeah, nice guy!
I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone, but, I don't think his influence on the tech sector has been quite as revolutionary as is being made out.
Snake oil salesman, yeah
overall positive, not even close.
Special snowflake syndrome with a distinctly distasteful 80's Gordon Gheko hangover, seems more like it.
Can he cheat his way up another transplant list this time I wonder?
knew we had so many doctors on el reg!
You sound just like ratfox.
he's not coming back...
the daily mail are saying that he's off for two years!!
but it is the daily mail....
i've got a feeling that we won't be seeing lord jobs ever again.
...this coincides with the launch of the iLiver 3.
I do wish him the best of health. He never looked to have recovered well from his last illness.
We need visionaries, with all their faults, not mere pen-pushers.
Get well, Steve.
Feet of clay ............
Bill Gates may be a scoundrel peddling operating systems and software of dubious value (as well as a small amount of hardware which is actually rather good), attempting to lock governments and the world's public into exclusive use of his products and keeping users on an upgrading treadmill for his own financial benefit. In other words, a very successful businessman. And he'll no doubt die unlamented by the world at large. But at least he's never presented himself as a quasi-divine figure.
And there's the difference. Steve Jobs has presented himself as, and has been regard by the fanbois as, a quasi-divine figure with a vision to which he has sought -- and gained -- what appears to be an absolute loyalty from his followers. What's the world expected to do when Jobs' feet of clay are exposed? The fanbois will still look at the head of gold and ignore the realities of the situation.
Of course Jobs has been a major influence on the computing world, as a representative -- and for decades the leading representative -- of the "my way or no way" approach. And, frankly, if Jobs' way had prevailed, I for one wouldn't be using computers to the extent I do in everyday life. And I say that as someone who was machine-code programming in the 1960s and can remember making very extensive use of the very first IBM word processors in the 1960s.
It's the openness of the IBM PC which has made customised hardware and software, relevant to the actual work we need to do, economically feasible for countless millions of people around the world. I don't like Microsoft and I don't like Bill Gates, but if I were tied to the Jobs approach to hardware and software I wouldn't have either the hardware or the software I need because (a) the hardware I need would be out of my price range (which is at the top end of the custom-built PC range) and (b) the software would never have been written or, again, would be totally out of my price range.
Jobs has been the enemy of the very things that have made it possible for me to make very extensive use of computers in my work setting.
If he expects privacy, he should stop presenting himself as a messiah-figure -- then we can show him sympathy as a mere man overtaken by illness. He can't have it both ways.
Speak for yourself
I wish no ill to Steve Jobs, but:
You are seriously deluded if you think that noone will lament the death of Bill Gates. Bill has done an unbelievable amount of very important charity work, with the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. In just one area - Malaria - he has already done more than all governments in the world put together. The foundation is also pioneering research into HIV/AIDS and many other global problems.
Well, I'm pleased that....
... Bill has decided to spend a lot of money on helping to fight malaria, but please remember how he came by so much of the stuff in the first place. The same sort of business practices as all monopolists crave.
I just hope he isn't doing it in the hope of saving his soul but rather because he wants to make amends.
From what i've heard...
I believe he must eat a child's soul every so often or he becomes ill and must take some work leave.
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