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The most dramatic aspect of the smartphone market in the second half of 2010 has been the reinvention of Samsung. Samsung's Galaxy S has shipped 7 million units and has set targets of 20 million for this year – plus one million tablets. Always a powerhouse in mass market handsets and feature-packed media phones, the Korean …

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    1. Michael C
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      duh, single carrier george?

      1) only one carrier vs nationwide sales

      2) Carriers PUSH android, in bundles and 2 for 1 sales, and special promotions, and millions in advertising per day, where as people ASK for iOS.

      3) sub-$200 options (crap as they are, there is a market for them)

      4) its still new, and the users have yet to revolt from being burned and disenfranchised (though it's spinning up).

      Seriously, the tone in here is pretty grim for Android. 6 months ago, this would have been 95% pro-android, but more than half the posts hare are practically spelling its doom now. Its slow to evolve, showing its security weaknesses, Flash is exactly as Apple claimed (slow, draining, laggy, crashes and only works good at all on top end stuff), and we're seeing phone after phone come out and get left behind without Froyo materializing.

      As soon as there's a Verizon iPhone you're gonna see Android sales plummet. If WM7 actually works as advertised, it's going to cannibalize the rest. Why? The carriers HATE android. They only reason they have it is to keep their customers from running to AT&T. With an alternative, it will get no love... No more special data plan pricing, no more bundles, no more advertising. Carriers love control, lock-in, and no compromises, and WP7 offers that, with it;s closed store, no side-loading, no tethering without a separate plan, and no complex support headaches. Pre failed because it failed the Devs, and the carriers noticed. No apps equaled no real iPhone competition, so they stuck with android. WP7 is a viable Palm OS equivalent, and it has motion, and money behind it. They don;t like that they can;t have their skins anymore, but they would have the same with Apple too, so no real loss to them.

      I give Android 2 years before it;s relegated back to where it should have never left, geeks and tweakers. (if the courts don;t pull the plug on this whole stolen Java issue).

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  2. TeeCee Gold badge

    "....an exclusive screen, RetinaDisplay, made by Sony."

    I don't suppose this "Sony" display is actually made by AU Optronics, Sharp or, er, Samsung*? I've yet to dismantle a Sony device recently to find "Sony" as the panel manufacturer rather than one of those three.

    *There'd be some serious irony value in that one.

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  3. EWI
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    Cloners rejoice!

    "have turned it into a swan that is giving Apple a run for its money in terms of mobile allure"

    Considering how their mobile/tablet strategy consists of cloning whatever products Apple's come out with, not much of a compliment there, is it?

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  4. Alex Gollner
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    Samsung will be next No. 1 phonemaker

    With Apple staying at number 2 with less share, but making more money. Every few years the company at number 1 will change, while Apple sticks to its model.

    Reminds me of John Sculley's policy of undermining Coke's few form-factor policy with huge variations in Pepsi product variations.

    Jobs is snobby enough to be happy with No. 2, as long as the 'right' 45% of the market buy his products. Thatcher got a long way on less than 40% of the vote.

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    1. Michael C
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      spot on

      If the right 45% is 75% of the profit to be made, yea, he's happy, and so are the stockholders. Competition is apple's motivation, they have no desire to crush it, just out profit-it. Also, too much marketshare and the FTC starts looking too close...

      Apple does not want radical growth. they want very steady, predictable, market expansion. Fast swings are expensive, complex, and often swing the other way just as fast. Apple is smart enough to know that it;s more profitable to profit slowly. Any real market analyst understands this.

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  5. Anonymous Coward
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    All Galaxy Ss are not equal?

    My wife got a Galaxy S from Vode IE last month, and it rocks. Amazing phone, runs 2.1. She watches HD video streamed wirelessly from the household NAS. Can't do that on my HTC Desire even with Froyo.

    Don't know what these lag issues are all about, but they're not apparent on that handset.

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  6. druck Silver badge
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    We've got both

    I've got a Galaxy S, the wife has an iPhone4. Each of us loves our own one and thinks the other isn't as easy to use, but objectively it's pretty much a dead heat in terms of hardware and software features. It will be fascinating to see what the next model from Apple and Samsung are like, and if either manages to pull ahead decisively.

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  8. Tufty Squirrel

    @ Michael C

    >> the tone in here is pretty grim for Android.

    Yep. For what it is, Android isn't all that bad. It might even be a decent enough phone OS (wouldn't know, don't have an Android phone, only a tablet). For tablet use, it's crap, even with the latest froyo releases. By the time 3.0 has been pushed out (which will allegedly make for a more tolerable tablet experience), the bugs have been bashed out of that, companies are shipping devices running it and software (beyond the eponymous fart buttons and home screen skins that clutter Android's market) is taking advantage of it, Apple will be onto iPad 2 or maybe even 3.

    Those who bought into Android tablets already, especially the cheap chinese versions, are most likely gonna end up running to Apple or MS. Will there be a market for Android tablets by the time its ready?

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  9. Anonymous Coward
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    excuses, excuses, excuses

    Just stop and save face!

    Apple appeals to apple types. The majority DO NOT have or want apple products.

    I do not want to be part of the flock.

    So please just stop and save your bleating for other apple types that want to listen to it.

    You can justify your poor decisions amongst yourselves. Stop trying to bang on and on about the same old arguments.

    Just accept it, Apple products are not for everyone. Thankfully the majority can see that they are for those who need "help" with their social standing and belief systems.

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  10. cooler
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    Nook Color is better for $249

    Nook Color is better for reading than iPad and better for everything else than Kindle. Nook Color is better for $249. Nook Color screen is supposed to be better (less reflective) for reading than iPad thanks to new LG screen with anti-reflection coating. It allows to watch videos, listen to the music, view Office documents and PDF's. Porting Android apps is not difficult. B&N says it is more like optimising them for Nook than porting them.

    Nook Color specs:

    - $249 with free shipping

    - 7 inch Color LG Touchscreen 16 million colors with anti-glare coating 1024 x 600 delivering 169 pixels per inch.

    - 8GB built in memory expandable to 32 GB with microSD card.

    - Formats supported: EPUB, PDF, XLS, DOC, PPT, PPS, TXT, DOCM, XLSM, PPTM, PPSX, PPSM, DOCX, XLX, PPTX, JPG, GIF, PNG, BMP, MP3, AAC, MP4.

    - Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n), USB port

    - OS: Android 2.1

    - Processor: TI 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8-based, 45nm OMAP3621

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