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ACS:Law, the firm of solicitors being investigated by authorities over thousands of threatening letters to alleged unlawful filesharers, was attacked by net activists linked to 4chan overnight. The firm's website was brought back online at about 10.45am, following a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) strike. It follows …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It's a mystery to me - the game commences.

    So they've chosen to wind up 4chan /and/ they're "currently under investigation by the Solicitor's Regulatory Authority."

    How soon do you think it will be before the contents of those investigations become public knowledge?

    1. Dan 10

      Fair point...

      Only slightly less time than it might take for his home address to become known. At that point, all bets are off - mail order nonsense of every description, taxi blacklisting, you name it.

      This one could get interesting.

    2. Will Leamon
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      +1 Internets

      For the Dire Straits quote.

      1. Pirate Pete
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        We could restore their website for the usual fee

        (Plus expenses)

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Flip side

    ACS: can now go to even more studios/developers and say look we are making a difference. We are cutting the heart out of piracy. That's why they attack us so.

    Let us act on your behalf as well....

    Better to let the Solicitor's Regulatory Authority do their jobs and bar them from practicing. All this campaign does is create a them and us mentally and justifies even more draconian laws to crack down on this victimless crime.

    no publicity is bad publicity

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Joke

      ♠♠♠♠♠♠♠♠♠♠LETTERS AND DIGITS !!!

      no publicity is bad publicity

      Yeah tell Josef Fritzl that

  3. Joe Hickster

    Cant believe the level of how low Arrogance can sink

    Crossley declares he is more bothered by his Train of his Coffee whilst there are hundreds of innocent people he and his colleague (Terence Tsang, now at Cramer Pelmont) have condemned to a reign of fear and uncertainty as to their financial future.

    Many are so frightened they feel paying up is the bet option to make the LAW go away, but this is NOT the law, this is a group of greedy people intent on making a fast buck. I truly hope the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal throws the book at him and disbars him,

    http://acsbore.wordpress.com/

  4. Naughtyhorse
    WTF?

    AD??? i think not,these fucktards lack the balls

    So the ACS annual charabang goes off a cliif killing all 48 scum sucking shitheads on board

    whats the tragedy?

    4 fucking empty seats, thats what

    the old uns are the good uns.

    yay for the blackhats

  5. envmod

    pwn

    ACS: Law's site is down again....

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Happy

      The title is required, and must contain letters and/or digits.

      ACS-Law... Account Suspended, I haven't laughed so much since watching 4 lions :-)

  6. Tigra 07
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    Bring on the trumpets!

    I'm actually hoping these attacks keep going until the RIAA, BPI etc learn that what they're doing is actually damaging their industries.

    Keep the attacks rolling on to keep the sites down!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Internet makes our actions visible

      This is only the first of many Internet wars.

      When the Internet took off in the 90s it was all about freedom, lack of censorship and power to the people. But gradually all these freedoms are being curtailed.

      Sure, illegal practices like fraud, crime and ID theft are things to be policed. But people using a 'network' to transfer data? isn't that what networks are for?

      The problem is that file sharing online is a visible activity, people have copied each other music, films and software for years. Ever since someone realised you could copy games with a tape to tape deck (early 80s). Early video recorders didn't have macrovision, CDs were unprotected and so on. Copy protection doesn't work and just pisses off the people who buy it (they have to endure all the stupid warning messsages).

      "Sneakernet" has existed as long as computers have. People feel they are being helpful and generous to share what they have. Sure, copyright infringement and all that. But they're not making any money from it. It's infringement, unauthorised duplication which is a civil matter. People copying are not criminals so long as they're not making money from it.

      It is the people selling dodgy DVDs who the IP police need to get onto, these are the people making money and funding dubious causes.

      1. david wilson

        @AC 9:20

        >>"But people using a 'network' to transfer data? isn't that what networks are for?"

        Even if the data doesn't belong to them?

        >>"people have copied each other music, films and software for years."

        True, but it used to be rather more face-to-face, and there was a definite *sharing* aspect to it.

        If there'd been someone who was just a leech, and was getting copies from other people but never buying anything to share, unless there were extenuating circumstances, people would generally tire of them and stop sharing.

        That's pretty hard to do in an anonymous situation. Even if people area asked/required to contribute content rather than just take it, the total freeloader can just 'contribute' stuff they got for nothing elsewhere.

        >>"People copying are not criminals so long as they're not making money from it."

        That's an opinion, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't seem to be the UK law's opinion regarding making content available, *if* there is harm to the rights holder (though I'm not sure how that is supposed to be adequately proved).

        People can certainly argue that making content available for other people to share *shouldn't* be an offence, the same way people can argue that smoking pot shouldn't be illegal, but in reality, however strongly-held an opinion is, 'should' and 'is' aren't the same thing.

      2. Tigra 07
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        RE: AC

        Agree completely with that

  7. Anonymous Bastard

    The spelling on this page has become atrocious

    Why is it the mere mention of 4chan brings out the illiterati in droves?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Wut

      whatz wrong wiv ma spelign

    2. The Other Steve
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      Shurely ...

      ... that question practically answers itself ?

      1. gsogeek
        Go

        Irony's lost on you, eh?

        and don't call me Shirley

  8. Chris Hatfield
    Troll

    Big Whoop indeed! ACS Law = ACS Bore, lol

    1. Well, *he has a point* ! But it was a symbolic protest. Bringing ACS:Law website down for a short while is *no big deal*.

    2. What he has said will be interpreted as a CHALLENGE to many 4chan trolls to be more disruptive. i.e. he has fed the trolls. As revenge, they will probably do something childish like Photoshop his head on a donkey, or something. I imagine they'll use the photo that appears to be on <http://acsbore.wordpress.com/>.

  9. Anonymous Coward
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    This is the ultimate Denial of Service attack on ACS:Law

    Through their own professional channels, by their peers.

    http://www.computeractive.co.uk/computeractive/news/2270209/uk-solicitors-seek-group-action

  10. Anonymous Coward
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    Gotta love 4chan

    They keep the internet on it's toes!

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    Hmmm,,,,,,,,

    I wonder if I'm the only one whose had the thought that by annoying 4chan, Mr Crossley is going to become a cross Mr Crossley?

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Stop

    People who laugh at black people eating chicken and cats...

    Will never take over the world.

    But I'm hedging my bets, so anon...

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I smell trap

    Either this guy has never heard of 4chan or he is trying to set a cleverly disguised trap to catch the stupidest of the bunch.

    His life will still be, erm, "interesting" in the next couple days.

    1. david wilson

      @I smell trap

      >>"Either this guy has never heard of 4chan or he is trying to set a cleverly disguised trap to catch the stupidest of the bunch."

      I guess if someone wanted to get some of the less technically savvy people, provoking them to attack a particular site at a particular time does mean that people could be ready and waiting to do the relevant tracking-down.

      I'm just wondering, if an attack was really large, could someone taking part only be charged with damage they'd caused themselves, or would they be liable for conspiring to cause the total damage. If so, would that be a more serious offence?

      The guy may well be an idiot, but it could be dangerous to assume that he *must* be an idiot, or that the next person doing something similar is *also* an idiot.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Apparently 4chan does not afraid of anything

        Word of the street is that 4chan got addy and phone a few hours after Crossley's bragging. I guess there must be something up on Youtube or similar by now.

  14. David 45

    Cock-sure

    Sounds like a cocky so-and-so, doesn't he? Rather goes with the image the firm seems to have created, don' cha think?

  15. ElReg!comments!Pierre

    unsurprisingly...

    ...acs-law.org.uk has been up and down faster than a Surrey girl's knickers in the past couple hours...

    Not that it's crucial for their business.

  16. daemon
    Pirate

    hmm ACS::law - it was only down an hour (or not)

    If you google ACS::Law you will get this website: http://www.acs-law.org.uk/

    visiting it however will send you to; http://www.acs-law.org.uk/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

  17. Alan W. Rateliff, II
    Paris Hilton

    Failchan Taking the wrong approach

    Taking out a website is "great win," and obviously in this case ACS is either unphased by its site going down for a few hours or is just being a twat and taunting twats rather than ignoring them.

    What gets me is taking down a website is supposedly fun and "I hax0r3d your beans" and all that, but it seems that going after the MX or NS would make a much larger impact.

    Paris, no weaboo for you.

  18. blackworx
    Happy

    4chan partyvan time for Crossley?

    *gets popcorn*

  19. Heff
    WTF?

    Law degrees

    I should get one, write down a few hundred IP addresses and get to blackmailing too. Its apparently legal according to his business model.

  20. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
    Pirate

    Big Whoop and Pirates

    Dozens of comments and I'm the only one who read "big whoop" and immediately had the Monkey Island theme pop into my head?!

    Disappointing! And the games had pirates galore, too! How fitting. Arrr!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Lulz

      'Dozens of comments and I'm the only one who read "big whoop" and immediately had the Monkey Island theme pop into my head?!

      Disappointing! And the games had pirates galore, too! How fitting. Arrr'

      Now that did bring me Lulz

  21. miknik
    Grenade

    Moar lulz to follow for Mr Crossley

    After all, the internet is serious business!

  22. leer
    Black Helicopters

    Hurray!

    Free publicity

  23. Winkypop Silver badge
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    Popcorn

    [sits back to watch]

  24. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    required, and must contain letters and/or digits.

    And the site appears to be still down this morning, such a shame.

    Well I hope the train didn't run Mr Crossley over this morning, that would be annoying ...

  25. Rob Burke
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    Looks like their site is still down at the moment

    Hooray!

  26. Anonymous Coward
    Go

    Can we get

    the address of ACS:Law???

    If so, everyone grab some daft slagazine of the shelf and spend an hour filling in the "Yes please rush me my portable electric walrus polisher" and the "Frankly (not) mint memmorial piece of overvalued brass with no obligation to buy but by god will we poor the junk mail onto you".

    I would reckon the PO will be delivering their mail in a fucking HGV after a few months..

    WAY better method as it means some poor sod will have to sort out the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.

  27. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @Heff: Taste of their own...?

    Perhaps someone should mail them demanding a 'compromise' in terms of a financial settlement or face court action.

  28. Fatman
    Flame

    A Botnet for Good!!!!

    Ok, how many of you out there would love to see these scum sucking a-holes get royally fscked over.??

    No show of hands necessary.

    While most people despise the use of botnets to send spam; I can think of one use for a LARGE botnet - one that could be marshaled up to teach these pricks a lesson.

    Imagine a rolling world wide bot net aimed right at these scumbags. A carefully orchestrated prolonged DDOS attack that appears from one part of the internet and goes away. Only to be resumed from somewhere else.

    Lather.

    Rinse.

    Repeat.

    Do the same tomorrow, the next day, the next day, etc.

    If 4chan could do this, then look out shysters, its BOHICA time.

  29. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    Coffee all over my keyboard

    "Yes please rush me my portable electric walrus polisher"

    Then It went down the wrong way, and nearly choked. Never laughed so hard for a long time. Thank you cornz 1

    I do hope that Mr Crossley is not sent lots of envelopes stuffed with junk mail, with insufficient postage paid. It would be really inconvenient to have to go to the post office, pay the postage, and find the latest offers from the local curry house, taxi rank, etc.

    1. david wilson

      @AC

      >>"I do hope that Mr Crossley is not sent lots of envelopes stuffed with junk mail, with insufficient postage paid. It would be really inconvenient to have to go to the post office, pay the postage, and find the latest offers from the local curry house, taxi rank, etc."

      It might be inconvenient the first time, but I can't *really* see the same trick working repeatedly.

      Ultimately seems likely to do nothing more than waste the time/money of his local sorting office, just as most other potential wizard wheezes are likely to largely waste the time/money of other businesses, and possibly the time/money of the police.

  30. JaitcH
    WTF?

    Not only a gutter bottom-feeding lawyer but dumb, too

    Maybe ACS:Law should obtain a court order to force ISP's to reveal the identities of Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) perpetrators.

    I still haven't received a letter from these clowns after downloading for longer they have been on the job.

    Hope he has many more attacks and that HIS ISP sends HIM a letter, terminating service.

  31. Olafthemighty
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    Ha!

    Still down...

  32. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Anonymous...

    ...couldn't take down a phone number. Alls I can say is the people who've been taken out must have some pretty shitty hosting.

  33. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    All your emails are belong to us

    Well, the DDOS enabled the exposure of ACS Law's private emails for the last month and now they are being spread all over the interwebs. Payback really is a bitch Andrew

    We are Legion

    We do not forgive.

    We do not forget

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  34. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    ACS email database leaked online due to DDoS attack

    I've had a look through about 5 of them so far and then I saw this one from Andrew Crossley:

    "Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:42:21 +0100

    Guys in the office. Do not let this happen again. Make CLEAR notes and ensure that the database has everything uploaded correctly before submitting for supervisor approval. If you do not follw the strict process the system breaks down. Get it right!"

    Everyone repeat after me: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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