all i have to say
If it can't beat Chuck Norris it isn't worth rat spit.
WarMouse plans to ship a multi-button office application mouse by February next year. The outfit said it would start taking orders for the pointing device, which comes loaded with 18 chunky programmable buttons and is intended for use by OpenOffice.org fans and gamers, next month. OOMouse features a shedload of inputs. The 18 …
If it can't beat Chuck Norris it isn't worth rat spit.
OOMouse? They should have named it the "EeeuuwMouse". What a p.o.s.
And I'm sure some lawyer is already readying the class action lawsuit for sufferers of the newly discovered OOHand Syndrome... what a beast!
The future of a mouse is one that doesn't need to rest on a surface at all, like the Philips Speechmike. The programmable buttons on mine with the scroll wheel, and controls for zoom, page back, and other stuff make working a computer as easy as watching TV and changing the channel!
...ridiculous. I remember a nine-button mouse was on the market sometime in the mid-90s; the manufacturer went bankrupt IIRC. Thing is, power users use keyboard shortcuts (especially when using the Creative Suite... honestly, I have no idea where in the menus most of the functions I use in InDesign, Photoshop and Illustrator are; I hardly ever see the menus). An 18-button mouse is simply counterproductive in an production environment. Maybe it's something gamers can use; I wouldn't know: I tend to use the keyboard as my game controller...
Mine's the one with the tablet pen sticking out of the pocket.
pointless - gettit, coz its a mouse and it,... oh never mind
it's also stupid, i like multi-button mice, in fact i wish there were more on the market, well, some decently designed ones would be nice, but 18 buttons, and 'wired' !!! thats utterly stupid with a capitol STU. 7 or 8 buttons is the max you can have with ease of use and still keep it ergonomic and it must be wireless (does anyone use or even make corded mice anymore??). I like Open Office but guys c'mon, get your heads out of there, clearly it's too dark for you to see sense
If you think it looks bad you should have seen the prototype:
I take it as a tacit acknowledgment of how many keystrokes it takes to do some fundamentally simple things in OO. Things like inserting the current date (Insert/Fields/Other/Filename/[Choose Format]/Insert/Close), or adding page numbers to documents which shouldn't require 10 mouse clicks. Things I could do 10 years ago in WordPerfect with 2-3 keystrokes require 15 minutes in OO. Not that its their fault, OO copied Microsoft's broken model.
Yeah, I know, I can spend hours configuring autocomplete to do all this for me, only to have it made incompatible and obsolete by the new version released a month later.
All I can say is welcome to our seven-fingered overlords (and a thumb).
I wanna test drive one immediately.
It might drive like crap but I reckon I won't know how it feels till I try one out.
Aesthetically, there is a lot to be desired but... look at all those buttons! Heavens knows I don't have enough buttons on my logitech to pWNz0r n00bz0rs with.
in my experience wireless jobbies are a pin in the preverbial.
they're heavier to use so slow you down and have annoying side effects like the batteries running out.
simple optical wired mouse: plug in. forget for at least 5 years.
Is done on the keyboard, no? So, if I have my hands on the keyboard, why would I want to move my hand to the mouse just to hit a "shortcut" button?
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This is great. Never in my life have I seen a product this badly designed. And there are some bad ones out there but this really has to take the cake. I cant see how this can make "ANYTHING" faster in the office.
"Ok which button was select again? Was is button 1 row 1 or button 3 row 4? I cant bloody remember?"
... and they wonder why OOo hasn't replaced MS Office. muppets!
And at the recent OOo conference thingy, the guy who came up with it was requested (read 'told') not to use the Open Office name or logo with it, hence it's now an OOMouse.
Fail for Reg reporting not being able to keep up with reality...
I think they should have put 103 buttons on the mouse.......
Paris, she pushes my buttons
I think it has enough buttons to write Japanese.a,i,e,u,o k,s,t,m,n,h,y,r,w confirm and - then the scrollie to pick script. You'd never need to use your wrist again lol.
As an aside, wired mice have their place, namely on all my computers becouse they're light, and work, all the time. Nice. I use a wireless keyboard but binned the mouse.
If it can do cool stuff like dissociate the mouse cursor from the typing cursor, so you can copy text from somewhere without losing your place and paste it at the current location (like pico in an xterm), it might not be so bad after all.
And I'd rather learn what several buttons do *once*, than have to select from a menu *every* time.
...I have replicated this mouse simply with a regular keyboard, regular mouse, and some blu-tac.
Obviously though I had to improve it further by adding a couple of cup holders, a pen pot, an in-tray, a printer, and a nodding dog.
And some casters.
Why are the same poeple who have a go at firefox for being form over function saying so much about how this looks.
Also give me a wired mouse anyday, no batteries to go, no waste of spectrum or random times when it can't be bothered to move.
Amazing how conservative you folks are.
Yes, it looks ugly, but the way I see it, there should be at least as many buttons on a mouse as you have fingers. Any less is missing a trick.
Nobody is forcing anyone to buy this device, and let's face it, the scroll wheel is the first innovation in mouse design since Engelbart's 1968 original. (Why has nobody thought of making the ubiquitous office swivel chair into an input device?) Engelbart also devised several other 'no-brainers' including the ancestor of Endfield's Microwriter which have not caught on. Users were able to achieve extremely high typing speeds on those 'finger-chord' keyboards' ridiculed by 'Poor Coco' above, who clearly has no idea that they used a mnemonic finger pattern system, rather like sign-language, and not ascii codes. Once there was a good excuse why such innovations did not catch on (expense and lack of standards), but now we have USB.
BTW did anyone try the Oberon operating system? (Circa 1987). It used an ingenious 'chording' system with its three mouse buttons: Hold down one button while clicking another and you 'copy' the selection to the clipboard, for example. They also used up to four cursors. One for 'source parameter' one for 'target object', one for 'selecting' and one for 'execute'. It might not be the best design, but at least Wirth and co were thinking out of the box.
The mouse and the keyboard are the computer's primary 'sensory organs'. Should innovators not work to increase the bandwidth of their inputs? Increasing resolution of the motion sensors is one thing, but why not have pressure sensitive or velocity sensitive buttons? (256 levels of force? Dynamic Photoshop brush sizes? Wacom do this already and it's very, very cool). Imagine a keyboard where you could press harder for bold text etc.
There are many possibilities, but little real innovation. It doesn't help to have a gaggle of IT 'experts' who dismiss any attempt to design something new without actually trying it in their hands - which is what input devices ultimately stand or fall on.
If the OO mouse were the first of many design iterations, I think we would soon arrive at a really good input device. Yes, it looks absurd, but you have to start somewhere - and I think we are seeing the old cliché: innovators are invariably ridiculed until everyone realises the idea was always brilliant.
(How many here will admit to ridiculing the iPod because it lacked a radio? Well, I remember a vast clamour of voices with exactly that opinion. Yeah, I know... It was a long time ago, I never saw any Jews being mistreated... We didn't know what was going on... I can't really remember.... etc.)
I definitely use the 'home', 'page down' and 'page up' keys at least as much as I use the scroll wheel, probably more. Perhaps some of you minimalist/conservatives would rather have the scroll wheel on the keyboard too? Beside the page down' and 'page up' keys would be an 'obvious' place, no?
The real issue is the driver configuration software. Many logitech mice have 5 or more buttons, but the opportunities for configuring those buttons are ridiculously limited. Kensington mice have superb drivers, with finely tuned acceleration control and a proper macro editor but they seem to be going in Apple's direction of 'less is more' in their hardware designs.
So... why not TRY the device before leaping to any 'brilliant' and 'witty' conclusions.
How would you hold that? They said something like how the buttons were the same size as the buttons on a phone, but those work from your thumb, not your index, middle, and ring finger.
I thought it would have been fine if they moved the buttons all around, like pushing your palm down will set off one button, but even that seems sketchy.