The final push toward state control of children began this week in Watford, as the Council declared two adventure playgrounds were no-go areas for parents. Council rules excluding adults apply to two undercover play areas - Harwoods and Harebreaks. Early reports suggested that parents now needed to be CRB checked in order to …
The council offer something good, and all they get is abuse
Unlike virtually (I did notice one or two) everyone commenting here I actually live around Watford and while Watford council are usually b*stards when they do offer something good (the ability to drop your kids off for an hour or two and let they run around doing fun things with adult supervision) they get a kicking from the uninformed.
The two sites are supervised (and FREE), but if you don't trust them then head over to Cassibury Park which has a newly refurbished playground with lots of fun kit (never had those in my day, wish I was young again etc etc) and you can supervise your kids to your hearts content.
I can understand them banning parents from the site - I bet its a pain in the arse having a few neurotic parents following their kids around getting in the way.
I follow my son around the playground at the moment but that's because he's 17 months old, has no sense of danger and likes climbing! When he's five he can run about by himself and learn his own lessons about falling down. Break out the savlon and elastopasts!
This sounds like mischief making to me....
Watford's a three-way marginal seat - one of the few where the Lib Dems have consistently come second. This looks like a good way to churn up feeling against them in the run-up to May next year. "Watford's Lib-Dem run council has made Watford into a national laughing stock - can you imagine what a Lib-DEM MP would do?" and so on.
It's now a weasel word. The approved responses are "sez who?" and "show me where it says that in writing."
They make this stuff up as they go along.
Oh for crying out loud
All they've said is that when children do an organised activity at a couple of specialist centres, parents can't come along too. So bleedin' what? Parents don't get to sit in the classroom with their kids either.
This whole farce betrays a sad lack of trust in ... council employees. What a sad world we live in, when a few paranoid parents feel unable ever to give their children some space and when a couple of right wing papers make a crusade out of it.
Child ownership act 2019
...In other news Prime-Minister-for Life Gordon Brown announced that he would announce measures in the Prime-Minister-for Life's speech to further protect children by transferring ownership to the state shortly after the umbilical cord is cut. In a statement he said "This will be a great leap forward for child safety. It's clear that adults who are not members of the Labour party or holders of Approved Non-Criminal certificates are all child molesters and a threat to the physical and mental welfare of the nations children. Kids will be better served when turned into productive business-friendly Really New Labour loving adults as property of the state. We are finally ridding childhood of the dangerous reactionary scourge that is parenthood".
A spokesman for Liberty said "I'd love to give you a statement, but I'm emigrating to China in half and hour. Best of luck with the freedom, democracy etc thing...."
In other news it has been announced that all current and former staff of Associated Newspapers have been knighted "for services to mass hysteria". PMFL Brown said "After a shaky start with the Hitler thing, Associated have rendered a sterling service to the Party by providing the manufactured moral outrage required to fuel some of our more controversial laws". Associated's editor-in-chief was unavailable for comment due to a scheduled meeting with the papers Moral Crusade department to discuss the new measures.
The PMFL also responded to concerns regarding his recent surgery, confirming that the operation had been a success, and his disturbing and unnatural grin would be a permanent feature, and would no longer inexplicably disappear at random during press conferences.
BBC on the case now
This has just been on the local BBC London TV news. It appears that the centre is "open access" which means that staff can't stop children from leaving, yet there's a major road outside and they don't allow parents to supervise. Crazy and a big council fail I would say.
Undercover playgrounds! I know what an undercover policeman is, but an undercover playground. Do they go around looking like cemeteries or something?
ID card? what ID card
shouldn't the adults have to show a biometric ID to prove that they're really the kids parents before being allowed to collect their darlings from the tender care of the council..
and then, just to prove that the kids are who they say they are, shouldn't the kids have to carry biometric ID's as well..
all in the name of safety of course.........
In a couple of years they will print an article at the bottom of page 58 of the paper that
"The CRB has 3 times the number of pedos as the national average."
Go figure.... if you were a drooliing pedo you would make it your business to get 'vetted'.
Should be spayed instead.
Big brother is watching the children - now we know they arent safe.
My kids - my access
"She further explained that this situation is no different from that which operates in schools or nurseries and parents would not expect to be allowed to come into those places."
Given the vulnerability of children by all adults I would never surrender them to a no access environment.
Bloody Labour government has screwed up so many things and lost sight of the fact parents have rights, too.
Free the children
As with many posts here, I was also brought up in an era where we spent most of our non-school or non-dragged round the shops to get relacement school clothes, outside in all weathers playing. And yes, we got hurt, and yes wounds healed. And yes we got a mild ear-bashing if our parents had to take us to casualty at 5pm just when dinner was ready.
Now as a parent, I encourage my kids to do the same. Simple boundaries, well enforced (be back by 5pm for food - yes you can tell the time dear, and if you forget your watch, just ask someone in the park. No dear, not everyone in life is a paedo, most people are quite normal. No, don't ask a policeman dear, they'll arrest me for letting you out of my site)
And whaddya know. I now have 3 kids who can ride bikes, climb trees and run fast enough to get away from shopkeepers when they've stole some penny sweets. Sad thing is, that in a small primary school of 120 kids, they are 3 of about 10 that get this privelege.
And when asking other parents why they don't do the same... They simply lack the confidence because they've been brainwashed. So at weekends we regularily have 6-10 kids round to play. Seems as though the brainwashing doesn't prevent other parents from dumping thier kids on us to get that freedom. Odd really, because none of them asked me to be CRB checked. Nor, incidentally, did I need to be when I ran the PTA, nor even when I volunteered at the school for the 6 months I was unemployed.
Who watchs the watchmen?
A school, it's been running for a long time. There's a known structure, a known organisation, including a Board of Governors. Despite some of the dafter elements there might be, it's something with a reputation. We have some idea of the training, and of the standards imposed.
This sounds pretty new. A parent who thinks they know what a school does feels confident about leaving their kids at a school. But what checks are there on these playgrounds? What do they do? Can we trust them?
And chidren aged from 5 to 15? I don't know of any schools or nurseries handing that age range.
I can see why people might be scared.
"Is the world becoming stupid what happens when you give women the vote? I can't say but I think it should be rescinded for a few years to find out."
We already tried that. For a few thousand years. It wasn't a success.
"Watford town council is incredibly PC, very left wing in their actions, and frankly rather shit as a result. Their main emphasis seems to be on making everything very politically correct, "
Can all you rightards learn what PC actually is. You rightards have PC too. Oh yes you do.
"pushing green policies over personal freedoms, and trying to make it impossible to use a car in the area."
Why do you think your personal freedom is more important than other peoples? Oh yes, you're a rightard.
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