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A group of Alloa women who got their kit off, in a charity-fundraising "Calendar Girls" stylee, are a little miffed that Scottish Women's Aid has declined to benefit from the proceeds. Domestic abuse victim Morag Hill and business partner Katherine Cram decided to emulate the famous Rylstone Women's Institute 2000 calendar, …

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Womens' Aid philosophy curiously like abuser's philosophy

"we have an issue with women removing clothes"

Sounds like Scottish Women's Aid has a problem with women making their own choices - just like the problem abusers do.

@pictures, or it didn't happen?

www.hairbares.com

I for one am going to pre-order one. I hope they get to sell millions because of this and SWA can stand up and admit they turned down half a million quid in donations because they're prudes who think 18th century morality is more important than helping women in need.

Paris Hilton

female nudity is god's gift to mankind.

too much female nudity? Not in the States, for damn sure! I though female nudity was empowering and assertive, a breaking of the chains of victorian times, not to mention a rebuff of the chains of fundamentalist Islam. Now its a bad thing?

In recognition of this feminist achievement, I think we need an International day of celebration , when all young, attractive women are encouraged to bare their chests in public!

Paris, of course.

Coat

Miss-speling

A group of Alloa women who got their kit off, in a charity-fundraising "Calendar Girls" stylee, are a little miffed that Scottish Women's Aid has declined to benefit from the proceeds.

Don'tcha mean ....a little muffed...

OK, leaving now. See ya tomorrow. Maybe.

Grenade

Has anyone else checked out the website

It looks as if they are falsely advertising that the money raised will go to womens aid when we know that's not the truth.

Book 'em for fraud. A couple of nights in the slammer ought to learn 'em good.

Good to see the true feminists out in the forums

I have to deal with sexism all the time at work - mostly from women of the "All men are bastards" ilk. I know plenty of men who are a-holes but then I know just as my women who are too, and plenty of both who are not.

I recommend Naomi Wolf's 'Fire With Fire' for a good look at the split in the feminist movement between 'victim feminists' (feminism as an excuse to define an enemy to hate) and 'power feminism' (getting on with the job of getting equality for women - and men). No prizes for guessing which categories the two groups in the story fit in to.

PS: Glad to see the uni bookshop here isn't selling those stupid "all men are bastards" diaries any more too. Sexism isn't funny no-matter who the target is.

PPS: But sex is lots of fun - I recommend it . Nude pictures included.

What is the point of this charity?

Is it a " feminist movement" campaign griyo or it meant to be a support group for victims of abuse? The second? Right, then any political views they might hold can fuck right off.

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Plan B

Maybe the would be more comfortable with receiving the proceeds from the sale of a nude 'Reg commentard' calendar? I've got dibs on August so I'm going to go get my back waxed. Anyone else?

*ists == narrow minded

racists, feminists, communists capitalists,.... all are pushing a barrow or some sort.

If you want equal treatment then *ism is not the right approach.

From their blog:

"Can i send out a note of thanks to The Womans federation of England, Reg Charity no 1054154 for their support of our project."

So it seems that they've found a new organisation to support, all that has happenned is the puritans in Scotland have forced this money to go to English women instead.

Megaphone

@AC 12:04

"I thought it was an organisation which helps female victims of violence and abuse.

It seems that they have unwittingly revealed a political sub-agenda in SWA."

Umm, personally, I thought it was pretty much common knowledge that domestic violence refuges are recruiting camps for radical feminist groups.

That is what the founder of the first ever refuge, Erin Pizzy, reckons anyway. From Wikipedia (yes, I know, wikipedia, there are plenty of other sources for this data, get over it)

"Erin Pizzey said that militant feminists - with the collusion of Labour's leading women - hijacked her cause and used it to try to demonise all men, not only in Britain, but internationally. After the alleged hijacking the demand for a service for women survivors of domestic violence grew and soon public funding became available. Today the movement has been rebranded as Women's Aid and garners millions of pounds a year from a variety of sources although primarily from the state."

Grenade

Perhaps...

... they would prefer the calendar if the women had been wearing burkhas...?

Happy

<bleeping title>

AC wrote: "There is so much talk of women being sexy, and whether it's good for them to dress provocatively or not, but there is almost no way for a man to dress in such a manner."

Men are inherently sexy and there's no need for them to go very far out of their way to "dress provocatively." A little bit of nice exposed arm muscle (roll up those long sleeves a couple of inches) and other attributes can be tantalizing enough to get a lady's interest, although she may or may not let you know about it depending on other factors. (Probably different in warmer climates though, where everyone runs around half-naked all the time anyway... I'm thinking more of the cold northern climates I'm accustomed to).

I think the problem is that too many men are unaware that *men* are sex objects too, in a good sense of the word. At least they are for women who are in tune with stuff like that.

Also, too many men seem to have been brainwashed by religion into viewing their own (male) bodies as somehow "dirty" or "bad", where sex is "dirty" etc etc blah blah, not helped at all by centuries of religious/societal conditioning that the human body and its functions are somehow shameful or "sinful" or whatever. (Well, I suppose it depends on what you're doing and who/what you're doing it with - if you're out screwing farm animals and hookers you'll probably get diseases, so yeah that would be "dirty," but otherwise, not.)

But anyway you get my point - as to opportunites for men to be "provocative," it's more about attitude (humble, not snobs), confidence (but not braggarts), and, um, fitness for purpose ;) rather than a specific type of "provocative" attire or lack of. Needless to say, drinkers/smokers/lardballs/scumbags/abusers don't stand much of a chance regardless of how sexy their bodies might be, unless they're seeking a woman (or whatever their prefs are) of similar attributes and interests.

All that having been said, I saw some male strippers at a club one time (got talked into going by some lady coworkers) and quite frankly (no pun intended!) those dudes didn't even really know how to dance. They were lurching around like Frankenstein (seriously!), not very attractive... poor starving college kids I guess, trying to make some extra cash. Those particular dancers could have benefited from some, oh I dunno, meditation or kickin' back with some good mellow reggae for a few months or something, to learn how to loosen up and move/dance in a better manner, but then they probably wouldn't be doing public stripping if they were into that mode, so...

Huh... what was the topic again? Oh yeah - calendars, feminism etc ... (been a long day, sorry) ... how about people-ism... men need 'liberated' too, y'know ;) ... no, I did *not* say lubricated! ;) ok I'm going now...

Coat

"not enough celebration of women's brains"

OK, where's the calendars showing tastefully posed brains?

Ugh - I wish I hadn't thought of that.

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We are a nation of prudes

The basic problem with Britain is that we cannot stand the idea that someone else might be having a good time, so it has to be stopped. Look at the examples:

Nudity

Porn on telly (compare with France)

Foxhunting

Drugs

Alcohol

Shooting Clubs

The other issue is, who is exploiting whom? If men pay the money, are we not the ones being expoloited?

Pent-up?

Feminists just need a bloody rogering! Don't blame everyone cos some guy dumped you for a sexier chick! Maybe if you had worn a bit of make-up and shorter skirts he'd still be with you!

Welcome

Brraaiinnss

"not enough celebration of women's brains."

There is a national celebration of womens brains held annually in London by zombie representatives from various parts of nationalised business.

Feasting is held on or around the twelth striking of Big Ben.

Who is no relation to the clock of the same name.

They are most greatful for Microsofts contributions to getting women into IT and would, I'm sure, be more than happy to take any spare cash the calendar girls might have left over.

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"Celebration of women's brains"

So if I made a calendar with pictures of brains, they'd take the money from that? We've got a lot of med schools around here, I'm sure I could find some floating in formaldehyde. Or do I have to prove they were women's brains before I can hand the money over? You can tell the difference, women's brains are slightly smaller. (scientifically accurate fact; http://tinyurl.com/bvu7y)

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Beware the feminists.

" It means I can go hunt a vision of the world without male violence against men, or female violence against men and children, without worrying about redundancy or duplication of effort."

Well, if you try for a world without female violence against men and children, you definitely won't have to worry about duplication of effort... since no-one gives a fuck. (You may risk being lynched by angry radfems, though.)

"There is a simple test to find out if a woman is sexist. If they see the phrase "white power" as racist, ask if they find the phrase "girl power" sexist. Get them to justify the discrepancy."

Don't try this. Any feminist worth their salt will be able to justify it, probably at great length. (Their justification is, of course, subtly flawed, but good luck convincing them of that.)

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@Alice

Thanks, very much appreciated. Luckily I'm not in any of those no-chance groups, though I've no chance at dancing either. Being visually impaired sort of puts a damper on things though sadly.

Liberated, lubricated, it's all good. Just so long as you keep a towel on hand... ;)

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Don't Panic

It's OK everyone, I know where they can send the money. I just don't know what I'll spend it on yet.

To name a charity

Zero Tolerance seems to be so...ummm...uncharitable

Happy

charity calendar

Hi

Can I just tell Mycho > the fund IS going to women's aid, > the women's aid branches aren't governed by the SWA they are only an advisory body. Happily the local branches who have seen the calendar pictures and have seen that they are not at all pornographic, and are perfectly ok with accepting the donations.

As for 11 women on a calender ? We have a group shot for Xmas > it wasn't rocket science as to how to get 11 women into 12 monthly pages. And ALLOA? It's a small town in Clackmannanshire in Central Scotland, where 11 ordinary women decided to do a fundraising project. So could I just say that the positive comments on the calendar have far outdone the negative ones, and for those that don't agree with our project here's the ideal solution > don't read about it, you don't even have to comment on it, don't look at it ,and don't buy it, then you can allow the people who are interested ,to purchase the calendar and help a worthy cause. Thankyou for your time.

Elizabeth aged 52 yrs > from the August page, Hairbares 2010 calendar, in support of women's aid

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