Hollywood film director and former Fonz sidekick Ron Howard has accused the Vatican of a dark plot to knobble his latest blockbuster Dan Brown adaptation, Angels and Demons. Howard reckons the Pope and his helpers used "back channels" to scupper attempts to film around key landmarks in Rome. The production team had already been …
codes and coeds
@Greg: First my 401K goes in the tank, now they beat me to the studio. Guess I'll never retire and end up "a grizzled veteran of computing". (copyright BOFH, IIRC)
@David: Yeah, but I prefer my version.
Wouldn't worry about the antimatter!
What about the solex agitator/ green-solar-leccy-initiative ????
Bet the vatican has finally been taken over by the illuminati: Now all we need is some orbiting solar mirrors, some very large piezo induction converters (say, about the size of a building.... maybe with a large ariel/cross on top) ...hmmmmm ...... and i also see robots ......i see BIG robots!!!!
Ron Howard's ilk have come to believe that they are deities in their own right and can define truth as it suits their vanity and bottom line.
Re: Cryptonomicon vs Digital Fortress
I totally agree that Digital Fortress is a pile of utter putrid crap and a waste of forest.
Cryptonomicon on the other hand - PHOARRR, I liked it!!
And yes... Tom Hanks is crap as the main character. All I see is "Life is like a box of chocolates..."
Opie Can't Help It
Ever since he killed that mother bird with a sling shot he's had a God complex.
I would have thought any criticism the Vatican gives a movie, the more money the movie is likely to make. Lets face it, who wants to see some dullfest movie approved of by conservative Christians? Surely the more they hate a movie, the better that movie has got to be?
And in any case most people realise that Dan Brown's books are actually works of fiction, not research papers. I believe he wrote them to tell stories and entertain, not to educate.
Most of the conclusions are leaps of faith and backed up by conjecture rather than real evidence. Sort of like the Bible but with less plot twists and not as much fantasy. The Bible is a great work of fiction, so it's authors shouldn't feel threatened by a passing fad.
Story of old actor playing a sheriff breaking in a young boy during fishing trips.
Ron can we film this in your house with your family pictures still on the wall?
@AC Digital Fortress - I know where you went wrong
"it was the only book available after having exhausted my books and moved on to the girlfriend's"
If it wasn't for that pesky apostrophe, imagine how much fun you could have had on that holiday.
Replace "The Vatican" with "Microsoft"
Microsoft has a bit of problem with the author's work, perceiving it as somewhat anti-Microsoft in its outlook. This has been put down to his tendency to portray elements of Microsoft embarking on murderous attempts to suppress what it sees as threats to its monopoly on truth.
the mark of a truly poor writer..
is how many copies you can find in a charity shop in the first month after mass paperback release. dan brown scores almost as high as 'the third angel' by phillip(?) kerr.. and those potter books.
also, Holy Blood (and the) Holy Grail.. that was a laugh. and to have his wife use it as the basis for a secondary fiction and making sooo much wonga. bet that tickled him.. all the way to his Swisse bank account..
re: Saved by the church!
> Also, a "flask of antimatter"? Do you get these at Home Depot or something?
Yes sir! Aisle three, next to the unobtanium!
@Tedium ad Nauseum my child
> I had to keep looking at the cover to check I hadn't picked up DaVinci Code instead.
Funny you should say that. Never read any of his books, but I take it from people much more expert than I that his books are utter tat:
and this one has more, along with a list of other related articles:
I've waded through both books (A&D + DC), puerile crap in the extreme, but good eye exercise for the insomniacs amongst us.
It's Dan Brown guys!
It's not a 'real' author.
Hmm. The evil Catholic Church "back passage" machine vs the evil Hollywood propaganda machine.
Damn. Hard to pick a winner here. Can we get a Wrestler/Rourke style cage match to determine who is right? Sort of a Church supported "trial by combat" that Hollywood can then film.
Ron Howard and the Catholic Church
Ron is lucky that recently the Catholic Church retired the torturers of the Inquisition , and has also stopped burning at the stake, those who dare to say that the Earth is NOT the centre of the Universe.
Galileo Galilei had a close call when he used that devilsh instrument called the Telescope.
He observed things that could not be ,as it was against Christian doctrine.
They are apparently now behaving the way that they should according to the book that they use as a guide.
Something about thow shalt not kill, and all that.
A little competition
Strange slant on this article. The Catholic Church was once the Greatest Show on Earth. But, as we progress as humans, they lose contributors daily, and anything that can get them back into the news is on the agenda. If anyone knows drama, staging, emotional connections, and anxiety and fear as the prime motivator, it is the Catholic Church. Where else can grown men not only get away with wearing hats like that, but - and at the same time - surround themselves with a cast of thousands as they offer up some of the world's most engaging drama. Howard trying to steal a bit of notice? He's just going along for the ride.
Angels & DEmons is...
...quite possibly the second best novel I've ever read. Truly unputdownable, and it made me want to visit everywhere mentioned in the book.
(The best ever novel? 'The Sett' by Sir Ranulph Fiennes . In a novel about ruthlessness and revenge, our hero takes on Yardies, the IRA, badger baiters, the CIA and the President of Pakistan, to name a few. )
"The only thing exceptional about them apart is the sheer amount of real world details given in them"
Eh? The man has clearly never done any research in his life.
My, what a lot of literary critics we are...
I quite enjoy DB books, not particularly well written but keep you occupied. Even Digital Fortress, once you could ignore the obvious nonsense, was enjoyable enough. There are certainly many worse authors out there (most of them posting above I imagine). Try reading some of the older SF books (e.g. anything from 50, 60's) - some of those are really bad.
It appears that the only book liked by those posting above, are those entirely factual ones, with perfect understanding of all areas of science and computing. Although I doubt those would come under the heading of fiction, which DB's do. Perhaps that's the mistake those above have made - thinking that DB wrote textbooks?
Even Lord of the Flies - a modern classic - has factual scientific errors, and yet I don't see that wrecking it's reputation.
I pretty much agree with everything you said. I enjoyed the books and it took me 2 attempts at Neuromancer, too.
It's fiction, people. It doesn't have to be realistic. If anything, I don't WANT it to be realistic. Even Digital Fortress (definately the worst of the books).... I don't want accurate, boring descriptions of a geek using Unix: "Mark cursed as he accidentally typed the wrong arguments into Vi.". Give me exploding super-computers any day!
Angels and Demons
Was that the one with the bomb which they could see on security camera but couldn't find because "the camera was wirelss and had been moved"? So no one at CERN is familiar with the concept of "radio direction finding"? I'm sure evn Skippy once triangulated a radio signal to find out which well that stupid kid had fallen down this week.
I read the Dan Brown novels in reverse chronological order - and if you think DaVinci Code was bad, you should be aware that it is a PHENOMENAL improvement in quaility over the early books. My eyes bleed when I even think of "Digital Fortress"... Seriously, he has improved so much as a writer that if the rate of improvement is constant the next book might actually be worth reading! NOW can you comprehend how dreadful "Deception Point" was?
Au contraire, I don't think the factual inaccuracies are anything to do with it. It's more that they are written so badly.
How about this sentence that caused me to lob "Deception Point" across the room and read no further:
-- "I see we have a newcomer," said an uncharacteristically tall Asian man, walking over to join them. --
It's not just that - the whole book is in this style (or at least, the bit I read). It's just clunky. Don't get me wrong, I don't sit round reading James Joyce all day, but I think Dan Brown could put some fucking effort into it for £6.99.
I've read all four of his books....
It was actually because I couldn't really believe how bad they were, and I had to keep reading because they just HAD to get better. I believed it was some sort of test, and that I would be rewarded with the intellectual equivalent of apple pie and ice cream at the end for my perseverence.
I wasn't. They were just shite*, whether you take into account the factual errors or not (hey, I'll forgive some, but to effectively make up your own laws of physics? Not without at least a plausible premise for doing so, I'm afraid..).
*and how he managed to get away with lifting entire paragraphs from Holy Blood Holy Grail to Da Vinci Code, I'm not sure. Changing one out of every fifty words for a synonym does not make it your own work, as thousands of teachers will tell you.
re: re: Saved by the Church!
> > Also, a "flask of antimatter"? Do you get these at Home Depot or something?
> Yes sir! Aisle three, next to the unobtanium!
"uh, I think we're supposed to be getting some of those in next week..."
Being a good writer does not mean being technically accurate
Digital Fortress, the only book I've almost managed to finish by Dan Brown, is bad, not because it's technically inaccurate, but simply because it's absurd, and written in an awful way. How many books out there are they with so many one-page chapters? Just to try to keep the reader into some kind of thrill.
But it's obvious that the almighty CIA killer, with a perfect record, no pity, and high tech stuff, won't ever be able to touch the handsome hero, however many times DB points out he's just a normal teacher. Though he's got something in him of Superman, because he's able to hear the sound of a pistol above the noise of two engines - a pistol we've been told has a silencer. Cheap gimmicks, one after the other, to make a boring and predictable chase sound interesting.
Or the head of the NSA, using his own personal cell phone to anonymously contact a Japanese company and illegally sell them a supersecret program. It's not technically inaccurate - but gosh, how can I believe that, for one second? The Japanese company calling him back, so he can deliver a smart-ass answer when he's busy trying to kill somebody? And it takes time, only because their phone doesn't have a LED display for caller ID? Please - this is not technically inaccurate in any way, only so stupid, the mind boggles.
How could one believe it for one second, from what has been painstakingly described, on hundreds of pages, as the most sensitive and secure-conscious agency ever?
I've read technically inaccurate books which I thorougly enjoyed, because they were credible, because they did have an internal logic, and their characters had some depth. And they didn't require not only to suspend disbelief with the Real World, but also with the book's previous assertions themselves.
Of course, if you have the attention-span of a common fly, you might be able to overcome those easily.
Don't be cruel
to Opie,he is a nice wee boy .
He will grow up to be successful in whatever career he decides on.
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