Lucky Mancs could get ID cards first, Jacqui declares Wacky Jacqui Smith continues to believe her own increasingly insane press releases on ID cards. Yesterday she told the people of Manchester that they might be lucky enough to get their hands on ID cards earlier than the rest of the country. The Home Office is looking for "beacon areas" to further trial the cards from autumn …
"I think you'll find the residents of Knutsford, Wilmslow etc all swear blind they live in Cheshire."
As do people from Stockport, check all our postal address'... doesn't mean people don't class us as south manchester
"Chav is a class thing, not a money thing. Footballers' wives *are* chavs." Wrong - it's neither class or money, it's a knob thing. I grew up in a typical chav area, yet I've never been one, and I hate them with a passion... nope, what we call Chav now is a fashion/gang thing ... they just like to use class as a way to justify them being complete wankers to everybody else... unfortunately they seem to be spreading... we also call them Scallies here.... didn't even hear the word chav until like 2005 when I moved down south for a bit...
Paris- because that's the level of sluttiness all scally girls attempt to reach, but few do...
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Then, the creepy bit was the new threats that the government has uncovered:
"And it will provide us with the reassurance we need that others who occupy positions of trust in our society are who they say they are as well."
I had never thought about this one; but, the minister is right, up until 1997 we all thought that Labour governments were composed of left wingers, how foolish we all were!
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What really is everyones problem with carrying an id card?
Please dont spout some bollocks about human rights and infringing your personal space, the fact of the matter is that some people just want to be heard, which is fine, if they have anything constructive or decent to say.
It appears to me that the majority of the comments posted on this forum make no sense and are hate fulled rantings of a disconcerted few, sort yourselves out and get a valid opinion!
The id card idea has been banded around for many years and not a brand new brainwave from the government, so all the villified nonsense aimed at the current incumbents is hot air aimed in the wrong direction.
The criminal fraternity (a minority of the country) and the terrorist organisation will hate the fact that carrying an id card may 'identify' them, but it may reduce crime and terrorist activity, think about it, if a member of your family is injured (or worse) by a criminal or a terrorist, willyou be the first ot bleat about the unfairness of it all............of course you will because that is the way some of you are structured, shallow and almost transparent. You are the sort of people that hate 'authority' in any way shape or form, but soon call on the appropriate service when disaster hits your life (disaster being an exageration as many feel the world evolves around then and demand instant help when they start bleating).
Carrying a small card with your name on it and a few details may save someones life, it may stop horrendous things happening, it may encourage people to behave in public and then others willnot be afraid to go out, it may stop idiots carrying knives and killing innocent people on the way to visit their newborn child..........it may not , but what harm would it do,what have you all got to hide?
Think about it
"No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo...Socialist policy is abhorrent to British ideas of freedom...there can be no doubt that socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism."
Churchill 1945, talking about the possibility of an Attlee led Labour government.
If they (The Government) can explain logically how exactly ID cards will stop a terrorist from blowing himself up in a public place then I might accept the need for them.
However, as far as I can see, foisting ID cards on law abiding citizens will not work, unless they propose to have checkpoints everywhere to check your card reminiscent of Nazi Germany.
It's time 'New' Labour got stuffed and jumped off a sodding cliff. :-) Now that would be worth seeing...
No it wont, never has, never will, just gives the government a vast database of your details in one central location so they find it easier to extort money from you. Funny thing is you rarely know who is a terrorist until they've commited an act of terror, and if you do know who a terrorist is then they're normally already being watched. An ID card is no help at all and only reassures the imbicile.
Infact the ID card is a wonderful tool for Government, if you need it to open bank accounts, get jobs, use transport, get medical aid, you shall have to provide it, its use shall be noted on a database, so the powers that be can create an ever greater and more detailed image of you as a number in their system(the system being the country.)
Most people, as you may note, already carry plenty of things that identify them if they are questioned by police, if the police are suspicious they have ample power to arrest.
The ID card steals our freedom to move without the eye of government watching our every move whilst giving us nothing more then we already have, and also most likely making life easier for a terrorist who has forged identity documents.
You're the kind of person who saps from the milk teet of Government regardless of the flavour.
But no it doesn't really matter to me, the card will have no effect on me once made mandatory, other then being yet another stolen freedom, not that we really had any in the first place. Terrorists will be reinforced by dissafected youths who feel targeted by the state, street violence shall intensify as more money is drained from youth programs and channeled into ever more databases. Many more people will die from both forms of violence, but those numbers will still pale in comparison to the number of people that die in car accidents.
But at least you'll feel a bit safer, even though you'll be far far far from it.
Problem "Course, we may be far more sappy now days and just roll over and suck some New Lab pole becouse we're so scared of illegal immigrant, gun totting, alcholic, drug dealing, identity stealing, peado, terrorists."
Reaction "The government does not even know how many gun toting, identity stealing, paedo, illegal imigrant terrorists are in the country"
Solution "People can't wait to get an ID card"
It's in my pocket next to my knife.
I wonder if Wacky Jacqui's own personal details will be stored on the database she promotes so lovingly...
Having worked in IT and had contact with goverment IT staff and 'security' specialists for some time, I can't wait for the day this system is hacked, her personal details splattered all over the web and this farsical scheme to blow up in her irritating, wacky face. And it will. Just look at the goverments track record for protecting sensitive information in the past 12 months alone.
And I for one can't wait until ID cards are introduced. Being a Manchester resident, I look forward with glee to the day I can rip up the official order to get myself a card into tiny little pieces, and ceremoniously piss on said pieces in front of Parliament.
I live in Manchester and refuse to pay for something that will hold a lot of my personal information on it. I have a driving licence i do not need anything more for p[roof of identity.
The cards if they are making them compulsory have to be free of charge, free of personal information all that is needed is name photo date of birth address nothing more.
Then I still would refuse to pay for this a passport is all that is needed for proof.
This will be another black mark against the Looney labour policies, and people called Maggie Thatcher for the poll tax this is much worse.
Give Looney labour enough rope they will hang themselves with these policies.
Hang on the person in charge isn't even the democratic elected leader is a stand in too scared to have an election.
Paranoia, power hungry mindless leadership continues watch this space there is more to come.
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