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Microsoft: Windows 7 ready for Christmas 2009

Windows 7 in time for Christmas? No, not this Christmas - but Christmas 2009. Microsoft has reportedly told PC and systems engineering partners Windows 7, the successor to Windows Vista, will be on PCs in time for the next holiday season. That contradicts Microsoft's official party line that Windows 7 would not ship until 2010 …

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FFS

Well I guess that 'upgrade' to Vista ultimate last year was a waste of money, thought what the hell it will be round a while and get better in time. Well thanks Microshaft thats the last time I sh!t over 150quid down the toilet on your crap.

It's a shame more software/games don't support Linux. Had a brief run in with Ubuntu and loved it, only I couldn't do anything I use my computer for! (i.e. gaming and web design).

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If microsoft have learned one thing...

They've got to give techies what they want.

Non techie users will pretty much accept what management gives them, but techies will moan, and moan, and moan about problems.

From what I see on this and other threads. Techies want...

An operating system. Not some exercise in a presenting facile entertainment related data in even more creative ways. (I agree with this, I never understood why media player had to look like some kind of real world piece of plastic, instead of a window. In fact the first thing I do, always, is switch the whole thing back to windows Classic.)

Consistency. There's some marketing type - high on coke, and a bunch of "business analysts" - (aka women who have to do the job once, and spend hours in meetings discussing the shade of green the GO button should be,} who decide what features exist, and how you get to them. (It's this that infuriates me. Why remove features?)

Performance & Response. Why is there so much going on in the background. The computer is executing trillions of instructions per second. What is it doing? Once a day I might search a directory tree for a piece of text in a file. Why is it trying to index the whole filesystem?

Control. It's MY computer, NOT microsoft's. WHY is it WASTING three quarters of MY hardware power, because some kid down the road is running illegal software, WHEN I'M NOT?

Finally. There's one thing that I would like. (Aside from dual table updates real/table variable in sql, merge and hash joins in linq, close buttons staying in the same place in Visual studio, the ability of a laptop to detect a monitor disconnect and moving the windows back to the main screen,) is the abiltiy to add huge amounts of ram for the sole purpose of caching C:\Windows, C:\Program Files & C:\Documents And Settings, and the DVD drive. So that when it starts up, every thing is instant.

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Joke

to paraphrase a popular author

this must be some new use of the word 'ready' that I wasn't previously aware of

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"they'll want a new Office/WMP/IE/etc feature"

"they'll want a new Office/WMP/IE/etc feature"

Such as? And who is going to pick up the costs which that new feature requires?

E.g. If the new Office requires a new OS (and thus new hardware), and requires new user training, let me tell you something: IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN in any sensible business or in any sensible household. It was already unlikely before the Western financial system shot itself (and its customers) in the head. Now everyone knows what "leverage" means, and consequently the IT upgrade budget is less than zero.

"This application requires Windows 7, pay up or fuck off".

See above. Any company whose business's future depends on the success of Windows 7 is going to be a high risk company in the next few years. Sensible companies will ensure that they have alternative strategies independent of Windows 7, *because Windows 7 is not where their customers will want to be*.

This is new territory for MS and the Windows-dependent ecosystem. When you've monopolised the market for more than a decade, there is really only one way to go,

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Vista is perfectly good enough

For ages we have come to trust and love Vista. Why now that all the bugs are out of Vista and it works so well do we need to replace it with a bloated buggy new Operating System? We will all have to buy new hardware.

Happy

There is only one way I'll buy this...

It has to look like XP, work like XP, be reliable like XP

Oh yeah, and no DRM.

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Gates Halo

It's horrid! I love it!

It's not so bad. But is it IS bad.

I have Vista Home Premium with SP1 running on a laptop with 1GB RAM. It's slow, so painfully slow, compared with XP SP2. I can't recommend using Vista at all. I hate it.

I have Vista Ultimate x64 running on a Core2Duo desktop with 4GB RAM, and it is supremely fast, stable, and an absolute joy to use, even with the Aero interface. Faster than XP Pro SP2, faster than XP Pro x64 SP2. Vista is the canine's conkers. I love it. Highly recommended.

So Vista is good and bad, it depends on the hardware.

I've tried Ubuntu, too, but it needs special installers for the programs I want to use, and has (like all *nix flavours) some very sill terminology. It's way to complicated for Average Joe. Which is a shame, as it was pleasant to use.

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@"hardware sound support"

"Hardware sound support" and related stuff will only be back if the end to end DRM stuff is left out, which would be interesting. You can't have unauthorised/untrusted drivers having back doors to access the MPAA's righteous Intellectual Property, can you? Who do you think owns this PC and that BluRay disc? They do, not you!

Gates Horns

Good news...

"...cutting any features that aren't working and that might mutate into delays..."

That'll mean that what's left will fit on a floppy or two, then...

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Shipped Crimble 2009....

...usable by Crimble 2010!

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@Jake

"but at least now they don't have to constantly update both their core systems"

Well, if you insist. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/10/linux_wireless_buffer_overflow_bug/

Paris Hilton

Agonizing decision...

Hold my breath? Get a Mac? Hold my breath? Get a Mac?

Geez, this is a tough choice, isn't it?

(Paris, because even she can figure it out.)

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bored to tears of vista bashing

an upshot of windows seven being released to optimistic reviews is the slow decline of the fashion of vista bashing.

plenty has been said on this topic by people more reasoned, more amusing, and more sexually attractive than you.

am convinced that the people continuing to wheel out these old tired jokes are people who, as a kid, used to try to hang around with the bullies at school. we all saw you wait until that poor kid was on the floor facing the other way before you put the boot in.

Point of upgrading to Ultimate

The point of upgrading to ultimate isn't all the useless 'extras' , but that you get all the business functions plus the media stuff too. In particular there's the NFS client, the Subsystem for Unix, the downgrade rights and the ability to run your copy of Vista (guest) inside a VM hosted by the same license (host) of Vista.

Hardware sound support

It's not coming back built in, but you can get it to work. Microsoft dropped it so things would allegedly be more stable, predictable and so they could synchronise the XBox360 and Vista sound interfaces.

To maintain hardware support in the meantime there's either OpenAL, Creative Alchemy (been free for months now) or the Xonar DX/D2X drivers. So, basically, unless you're running either extremely old games or refuse to shell out for a discrete soundcard D3D continues to work.

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Looks like my Dad will be getting a new PC for Christmas next year

My (75 year old) Dad just loves seeing his photos on his 32" TV screen. And the best kit that I've seen for doing that is a Linksys DMA2100 Media Centre Extender. But it only works with Vista Media Centre. His current XP machine is only 2 years old, and I've been torn between replacing it or upgrading it. But if Windows 7 is going to be here by next Christmas, then I think that's what he's going to get.

@AC

> linux_wireless_buffer_overflow_bug

1: They are hardwired to a BSD based NAT firewall, built by me. No wireless.

2: Keyword from mine is "constantly". Another is "anti-malware du jour".

Do try to keep up. Ta!

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Multi-Clean-it-Shiny-Crap-Screen

What is it with this touch screen crap, doubtless we will have to invent self cleaning screens for multi-user environments, and while I'm ranting about the subject of screens I cannot buy a laptop because of crap shiny screens being the only option.

Rant Over

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I love Vista

Are you guys nuts?!!!

Vista is way better than XP or MMMac... Safe and fast and stable, that is Vista.

I installed vista on all my PCs. it works great!

forget about the old stuff, learn it buddy.

Boffin

Reboot, reboot, reboot again!

One of the more irritating niggles of Windoze (whichever version) is that practically any update will 'require' a reboot (and in some cases, multiple reboots). Not to mention a lot of 'ordinary' software installs.

Whereas in a 3hr period last night I installed Mandriva 2008.1 on a spare box, updated it, then *upgraded it* to 2009.0. All in all, a couple of dozen mouse clicks and ONE reboot (to load 2009.0 after installation - with no "Please wait while installing updates" nonsense during either the shutdown (post desktop) or startup (pre desktop) phases. Oh, and the process involved downloading about 3GB of data - stored conveniently on JANET - so download was ultra fast. Unlike you-know-who's sluggish servers...

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