In a move which would, three decades ago, have seen classic movie The Blues Brothers stillborn, British cops and officials are seeking to prevent private sales of ex-police and emergency services vehicles and uniforms. The Telegraph reports today that senior plods at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO), allied with …
It's called the Fletcher Memorial, home for incurable tyrants and kings, (c) Roger Waters, Pink Floyd, The Final Cut.
Funny, but that was 20+ years ago.
//Coat with the indigestion tablets in the left pocket.
...Holby Blue, The Bill, Casualty, Holby City or The Royal (for confused old folk) etc then. As for soap operas...."Cor, where's the bloody coppers, then? My Phil's done nuffink..."
Stop.... In the name of the law (whichever one it happens to be)
Heinlein would have been proud...
"The wearing of large, commodious undergarments in which explosives could be secreted must be forbidden, with thongs compulsory for everyone except authorised government employees wearing special ID badges"
"Project Bareback" is well on its way, with "Project Stripdown" not far behind. ("The Puppet Masters". Go read it. Now.)
About 6 months back an acquaintance of mine was stopped driving his 38 year old police car to a film shoot and accused of attempting to impersonate a police officer despite the fact that it had a custom made bobble hat over the blue light and didn't show any "POLICE" markings anywhere. I suppose the chrome bell was the giveaway...... he was attired in a T-shirt and shorts....
What we really need is
legslation to prevent the ACPO sampling all those confiscated substances
they have locked away.
Common sense 0, Police Stupidity 1
Years ago a motorcycling magazine (BSH, I think) carried an article about a man (IIRC, white male in his 40's who ran a successful business, so not the type to go out and cause grief for folks) who had been arrested and had his bike "confiscated" because it had a white fairing to which the foolish gent had added hi-viz yellow stripes, and he wore one of those vile yellow vest things to make sure he stood out against the local scenery - the idea being that even the most dim-witted, unobservant, Daily Mail-reading cage (car) driver would see him coming and not convert him to a new variety of Shippam's paste.
All well and good until some overzealous "public servant" in police blue decided the guy was extracting the urine and impersonating a policeman... And the best part of this 'tale of woe' is that it was about the time the Government started thinking (semi)seriously about requiring all motorcyclists to have fairings with dayglo stripes and wear those sodding vests whether they wanted to or not... (which they seem to have forgotten, thank God!)
Mine's the one borrowed from Dave Glover
Common sense 0, Police Stupidity 2
When I did my Direct Access motorcycle training my instructor rode a white BMW with fluorescent stripes, dark jacket, hi-viz vest and a white helmet.
At one point we'd stopped in a side road when a Police car came racing by with lights and sirens going. Just as they went past there was a quick "toot toot" salute from the Coppers' horn...!
Mine's the one with the built in back protector, shoulder and elbow pads because I don't trust cagers to look where they're going...
The power of a uniform
My sister's late father in law was a PoW in WWII. As a PoW he had time on his hands, and by steady scrounging/theft got the materials needed to make a replica uniform of a senior German officer.
He and another prisoner executed a very simple escape: he, dressed as a senior German officer, frog marched this prisoner out of the camp and, at each guard point, shouted in his perfect German at the sentry that if they didn't open this gate NOW then they would be in big, big trouble. OK, they were picked up a few miles outside the camp and he somehow blagged their way out of being shot for trying to escape, but the point holds: the trappings of authority can result in remarkable gullibility, as with the Milgram experiment.
However, the fix is not to withold used ambulances, it's to properly brief the people who grant access to controlled areas.
What do you want?
Quote "As for Police vehicles, umm... remove lights and livery and t-cut... suddenly you have a saleable civilian car... thus protecting the public purse from governmental waste like this."
Lets face it, the BiB have even started buying their cars in silver, as they don't look like ex plod when sold on, and hence have a higher re-sale value.
Can't have it both ways guys!
My father was once Head of Traffic Division for a medium sized police force. They auctioned their old cars off regularly and jolly good bargains they were too. Before they went to auction, and under his instruction, all badges, lights, sirens, dayglo stripes etc were removed. End of problem - the result is one ratther scruffy white car......
This used to be common practice.
Might I suggest then that the root of this problem (if it is one at all) lies with poor control, bone idleness, and general incompetance from the very people whining about 'threats'?
'How did Mr Deathtoinfidels obtain a police car?'
'We sold it to him, M'lud'
The mind boggles.........
Just require all emergency services to only buy Renaults - after two years they self-destruct.
@ Maurice Shakeshaft - "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance"
I think you'll find that Jefferson didn't have terrorists in mind
"The Bill" police cars
Around here (near Collier's Wood tube) is the studio for 'The Bill', and you often see their "Police" cars driving around.
They drive around with a nice small strip of black tape crossing out the word 'Police'. I think if Terrorists agree to do the same then there's no reason we can't sell them old police cars.
Well thanks for sharing that news with Al and his Quaeda*- now we have to be vigilant against terrorists impersonating the Bill impersonating the Bill.
*What is a Quaeda anyway - I had an idea it was a jazz quartet plus yodeller but I went to look it up on Wikipaedia and all I could find was lots of stuff about elevationally challenged salesmen with no clothes on being the only true believers/devil worshipping infidels.
I always thought that the relevant vehicles were always striped of the official parafinalia radios,lights,gofaster stripes,etc.....
Then and Now
I don't remember any of this nonsense coming out when the IRA was blowing things up every month. Detention of people without charge was brought in and then removed because it was counter-productive. Hmmm
Yet with just one successful attack in the UK muslim terrorists are causing the Government to come up with ever more ingenious ways to keep us under the thumb and scared sh!tless.
I notice one difference, parliament is now stuffed with people with law degrees (hence all the stupid laws) but never really made it as a barrister. 20-30 years ago most of MPs had held down a proper job before becoming an MP and one would presume had more than an ounce of common sense.
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