The Mozilla Foundation’s servers yesterday buckled under the strain of its own PR stunt to convince World+Dog to download Firefox 3 and set a new record over a 24-hour period. So far, at the time of writing, the open source organisation is claiming just over 7m downloads of its latest browser - despite the fact that at launch …
"Anyone with any sense can clearly see that Opera 9.5 is far superior in every aspect to Firefox3, just not as much hype"
Well for me on OSX 10.4.11(MBP 2.4Ghz 2Gb ram) Opera is being kinda sucky, after loading approx. two pages the browser will just show a blank page which i have to refresh to show the page content.
I have re-downloaded Opera and trashed all the prefs to no avail, i accept this may be isolated however ALL my other browsers work fine, and FF3 is pretty goddamn snappy.
Not saying anything against Opera, i've used it before and its great, i'll just use whatever works best for me at the time
Mines the one with the anti fanboy attack system built in
No silly enlarged back button on Ubuntu :)
FF3 works fine with TabMixPlus but you need to pick up the dev version from the web site.
Got all my extensions working (even Boox!) and FF3 is fast and stable.
The places\history\bookmarks thing takes a little getting used to but is well worth the effort.
Not sure Google will like it though, as it has cut the searching I need to do by at least a 1/4.
Oh yeah the download stunt... it worked didn't it... you reported on it, but more importantly so did the BBC :)
Its FOSS a great product and stops all the shitty adds that so clutter up some sites... what's not to like?
I just downloaded FF 3.0... Damn, it's so UGLY!!! Where's the "Vista look" several bloggers were talking about?
The first thing I did after installing it was to go searching for a new skin... and... of course, I found not a single one worth installing...
The second thing I did after installing FF3 was to go to opera site and download it...
Well... it looks MUCH better...
Mozilla, WTH?! Who does your UI design?!
I keep on reading about people saying that it wasn't much of a record as nobody else had done it before.
Congratulations - you've just uttered the favourite Luddite expression "if it was worth doing, someone would have done it before."
Come ON people - as with *every* record, *someone* had to be the first. In this case, it was the FF team with FF3. Maybe next year it'll be the Opera team. MS and IE are unlikely to *ever* come up for this record - IE is bundled into Windows and as such cannot be considered as it would be impossible to differentiate the number of people who install by choice from the people who have it forced on their PC and then do not use it.
For the record, I download FF3 last night (didn't get my certificate, damn it), installed it without a problem (ABP asked to upgrade itself) and used it to successfully surf the net afterwards. Admittedly, I have an internet-connection problem this morning (LAN works fine), but since it also affects Thunderbird and *ping*, I'll investigate further before placing the blame on FF3's doorstep.
Single Company Downloads
7m Clueless sheep.. By Anonymous Coward -What would you know? The fact that someone uses Firefox in itself means they are unhappy with Windows & IE. If you hadn't realised that then you are not a very thinking person rather a dufus.
Also this doesn't take into account the companies who pulled Firefox down & many of its employees just copied the download rather than repeating the exercise. This company for one would have at least 20 to 30 who use Firefox rather than IE & yes there are a few who use Opera.
Well done Firefox, it's an incredibly better product than IE will ever be as was Netscape in the dark days before it was squashed by a monopolising cretin. For those of you that haven't tried the Add-ons available you're really missing something that makes surfing far more efficient.
@ Dominik Stansby
I sort of agree with you but, I feel that if someone is clued up enough to know that IE is not the only option then there is a good chance that they realise Opera exists.
I use Opera (since version 6) but I accept that the actual usage is pretty low. It has fans for its speed but FF's customisation by extension just beats Opera in every department.
I'm using Firefox 3 now in Ubuntu and I am impressed with the stability - the better FF gets the less Opera gets loaded.
That obviously is just my experience - I have friends who love Opera and hate the new Fisher-Price FF theme... I'll get a new one soon.
Seems like the Operas fanbois and fangrls have got their knickers in a collective knot.
If Opera was all that great then it would be sitting on a market share much greater than 0.5 to 2.5% (depending on the stats sites).
I have tried various iterations of Opera since way back when it was first on the scene when you had to pay for continued use after the free trial. I went back to Netscape.
Now I use Firefox and have been using it since 1.0. Looks like I will keep doing so with 3.0.
@Anyone with any sense can clearly see that Opera 9.5 is far superior ...
...if you don't like add-ons. Get back to me when there's a *decent* ad-blocker (that, wow, blocks ads), or a Gmail checker that can check multiple accounts, nab mailto links and will actually log onto your Gmail instance when you select it. And many more (although admittedly some add-ons replicate built-in Opera functionality).
I like FF, but I still think the download day was a pointless stunt. Who gives a shit about a "world record" that doesn't exist? There's no guarantee that Guinness will accept it for inclusion
Well I like Firefox 3!
I am very happy with this latest version of Firefox. I have used Firefox through every iteration possible; however, I have struggled with the various Betas of Firefox 3 and was even on the verge of going back to Opera. However, Firefox 3 itself is great, finally the Beta bugs seem to have been sorted (for me at least). And as for looks - well I'm sure it won't be long before someone comes up with an attractive theme I can use instead.
I know its just a publicity stunt for firefox, that uses all kinds of tactics to coerce people to download its browser, but surely the most times a file is downloaded in 24 hours from the internet goes to www.yahoo.com/index.html or cnn.com/index.html on 9/11 or www.windowsupdate.com after that virus caused millions of people to visit that site?
Hmmm- Nordrick Framelhammer
I tried Opera a couple of years ago and gave up on it when Firefox came along.
As you say if it is now so magnificent , why does it rate in the low single digits?
I smell a conspiracy ! Perhaps however the ordinary user is not like the nerds that get onto this site in large numbers, and who enjoy difficult things.
Firefox 3 Vulnerability 5 hrs after release
BIG BIG fan of the "high" level vulnerability in the firefox v3 I just downloaded yesterday, found by Tipping Point..... what's that, two records set in one day by mozilla, fastest critical-ish vulnerability?
and still the shill fest ....
Whole bunch of 'em, still bleating away.
Sorry, Microsoft boys, but even the most recent revisions of you browser still don't do the standards right and are malware magnets.
And to the Opera whiners, you paid for a browser and your whining about Firefox? .... go gripe at the Microsoft shills, their paymasters decided that the best price for a browser was £0.
Hey nothing in IT is perfect, but at the moment Firefox seems to be winning the hearts and minds of the computer literate simply because of the combination of price, speed of fixes, openness, expandability and standards compliance.
Until your proprietary closed browsers can match all of those factors, I think you can look forward to Firefox eating up more of your market share, especially if it continues to pull simple advertising stunts such as this one.
"There has never been any record before - so how can you say it's a record?"
You mean that entire Guinness book is full of people who couldn't possibly have set a record as there wasn't a prior record to beat?
"This company for one would have at least 20 to 30 who use Firefox rather than IE & yes there are a few who use Opera"
Not in my company they wouldn't. They'll use the browser that I allow them to have and if they try and install any non approved software they'll quickly find that they don't have admin rights to do it.
What kind of nightmare must it be when users can install whatever they want without any checking that it might screw up their - or rather in true BOFH style -MY systems and networks.
Your sysad needs to get a tighter grip.
"Adobe serves over 8 million downloads of flash player every day of the year with far higher peaks on new release dates."
Really? Three billion downloads a year, not counting the peaks? Around three times for every personal computer in the world? Where did you make those numbers up from?
So what? Opera 9.5 @ 5M downloads...with no publicity!
According to the CEO on the Opera community website... Still waiting for The S60 mobile version tho' .. Yawn..
Call me a sheeple if you like.
But I've been using FF2 for a while. Quite liked it so I downloaded FF3 last night. It's working fine, though no adblocker yet of course and I've added a nice little app that arranges images in an interesting way that may or may not get annoying after a while.
So everything pretty much same as really.
What's the fuss?
@ Dom McIntyre
Unfortunately for desperate firefox apologist Dom McIntyre, Adobe's claimed figures were published long before mozillas pathetic hyping of their record attempt.
Whichever way you try and spin it, firefox's download record is at best dubious and at worst blatantly dishonest.
FF De-uglification Howto
To everyone who has their noses out of joint due to the ugly green button - Right click the tool bar, select Customize and Use Small Icons.
Firefox apologist? No. Spin? No. You're the one taking sides. I'm just querying your assertion that there are more Flash installations than there are personal computers in the world (your second link claims 2.3 billion Flash 9!) I'd say that's at best dubious and at worst blatantly dishonest ;)
Question for the FF3 users
Does it still have that insipid Postdata warning? i sometimes think Moz products are a bit Soviet, and that's one of the culprits.
Also, "This Document Contains No Data" (I actually submitted a bug titled that with the same for the bug content, it was not appreciated).
Amazingly most of mine work when using the compatibility addon. The only addons that are pretty much broke Noia skin and TorButton. Hoping they update that soon! As for speed. Seems a bit sluggish on some operations, like saving an image file for instance (Have to wait a while before I can hit return to save it as it just ignores it otherwise). Otherwise I think I like it.
BTW nice addon if you like some eye candy is Personas. I actually like the simplistic skin of FF3. I cut down on most toolbars too so there is more webpage space.
If you don't like it of course then don't use it!
@Rasczak & Kevin Gurney
@ Rasczak: Firefox has had a Refresh All Tabs option for as long as I can recall on the right click menu of any tab - so that's not an Opera-only function.
@ Kevin: While I agree that letting users install their own software willy-nilly is pretty dumb, it doesn't change the original argument that some IT departments will install Firefox on multiple PCs from one downloaded file saved to a pen-drive or network share - even if they're sensible enough to do it themselves instead of giving local admin rights to any users.
Mine's the one that originally has no pockets, but unlike other coats can have as many different sized ones as I choose to add to it later. ;)
Blind people vs CAPS-LOCK?
Someone wrote in regards to the all-caps fiend:
"Your headwand appears to have whammed the caps lock key - remember to use your eyes and look for the pretty light where it says 'CAPS LOCK' on the keyboard itself,"
Maybe the person is blind (literally) or something - can they tell, I wonder, does it beep or something if caps-lock is on?
Or maybe they're just typing with eyes closed while engaged in... oh nevermind.
Either way, one shouldn't make fun of the handicapped. ;)
That having been said, the only thing I use Opera for is to test my webpages for compatibility. I don't actually surf with Opera though; can't see what the advantage is supposed to be. Maybe I'm just dense or something.
Paris, 'cause she can probably do it flawlessly with eyes closed.