And for their next trick

Well I see the home office (according to BC Radio 4 this morning) was feeling particularly left out in the cold and has decided to inform the world that it too was attacked by the Chinese military.

Network security

So the US military doesn't operate its network on the basis of a sandbox concept? Or maybe its referring to the Whitehouse website being hacked yet again. This whiffs of the usual 'don't worry, public, trust us - you wouldn't understand this techie stuff' excuse to pump more funding into the deep pockets of the military-industrial complex. And of course the US taxpayer is easily whooped-up and will happily stump up the cash along with relinquishing whatever rights and freedoms they currently enjoy in 'cyberspace'.

PLA... PLO... ELO!

Yes the US government has been attacked by the Electric Lights Orchestra! Burn your old records in retaliation.

Cyber Warfare....... or just a Market Place for IntelAIgent Ware? Programs for Sale.

@Sigh 17:47 GMT

"all DoD personnel undergo random drug testing. Most people get popped for a test twice a year or so. Failure = dishonorable discharge, do not pass go, do not collect $200."

I can imagine that is naive and in a war situation, also ridiculous. We will agree to disagree if you say that drugs are not taken by military personnel....... which is not to say that it is either rife or that it is condoned just that it happens and in special cases, accepted. And it is a sensitive subject upon which I would wish to comment nothing further.

"5. Finally the intelligence thing: the intelligence community never asserted many of the things stated above, but by the same measure they didn't actively counter the memes as they spread. As always, the reality is very muddy, and the intel people tend not to convey ambiguity very well. Which is very important, as military types are very black/white, yes/no, go/no-go etc."

That would then be a Failure of CounterIntelligence Services? And a very clear Reality.

Carry on.

"Is it me...

By Joe

Posted Tuesday 4th September 2007 23:01 GMT

...or did amanfromMars just make some sense in that post?"

It is you, Joe, you must be learning. The implication in your post is that you should be able to understand anything which is preposterous if you don't know of everything surely?

"of course there are trolls here

By Alan Donaly" ........ Ok, Alan, please be so bold as to venture an opinion as to whether you are talking to a man or a machine or a Virtual Machine or a Program whenever you reply to amfM HyperRadioProActivity....... for is that the question you are indirectly asking?

Maybe One can be All ...and more .....by Virtue of Growth in Processing Power? Would you like to agree on that?

Must have been fast hackers

Must have been fast hackers , because according to my little book of numbers , the Pentagon Systems have been hacked on average 160,000 times per annum ! This equates to a new hacker arriving on scene every 3 minutes or so !

"they want rid of the West and we want rid of them"

No they don't as far as agressive war is concerned China is really quite passive.

And why would we want rid of them, China's a wonderful country with jolly nice people in it. Where would we be without sweet and sour chicken eh?

Just leave 'em be and start using passwords.

Sounds a bit worrying to me

I know it all sounds funny but we've went to war on much feebler evidence than this; do you really want anything approaching a conflict between two superpower states armed to the teeth with nuclear and conventional weapons?

How did they ever find out?????

The "elevator" music piped into the Pentagon lobby began to play Chopsticks 24 hrs. a day.

Broke in ....Bullshit!

Gates sold them excess pentagon bandwidth in line with Dubya's policy of cutting back government expenses.

Confused

I thought we went to war on no evidence whatsoever

Oh well I stand corrected

Red Dragon intrusions

Time and again, red China had been probing for weaknesses on US government systems' security. Their cyberwarfare units have already amassed a significant amount of information about our security vulnerabilities. Hey, it's like them knowing where you left your undies at home when you can't find it! Hacking in China is serious business. Their large pool of bored and talented techies in search of short-term glory doing all those intrusions and probes are essentially being encouraged by their government. The roughly 2,500 physical and "logical" ports of your PCs are never safe from these determined mercenaries. Chinese hackers have also developed a hacking tool that can initiate a scan and present a multiple scenario of suggested intrusions (cyber attacks) based success probability (in percentages) and estimated time of interception by the security systems (in number of hours / minutes). Developed using OpenSource initially and tested in a Beijing gov't tech lab, but the guys are now busy porting this application to "increase it's potency" as applied to the more sophisticated networks being targeted by Red China. In the next 6 months or so, the US can expect bolder intrusions from Red China hackers (both gov't sanctioned and independent). You can all laugh for now, but just wait until your machines start crashing one after another. Their new tool, Dragon Sword, is now under final testing at an undisclosed lab in Beijing. This tool is meant to remotely re-program your CPU and initiate a power overload on your PC or servers and thus burning the units. Not science fiction anymore, folks. It had been done in the lab... soon, you'll more of it in US computer labs... computers / servers getting "burned" even under temperature controlled facilities.

Out of fear

It has gone quiet here because we are all so afraid of Dragon Sword that we have pulled the plugs on our net connections.

I only dared to connect via my Sinclair Spectrum, as it was expendable.

Alternatively we could all be laughing ourselves sick (still)