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Matt Damon yesterday used the London premiere of The Bourne Ultimatum to roundly dismiss James Bond as a Martini-sipping imperialist misogynist, the BBC reports. Damon declared Bond "anachronistic when you put it in the world we live in today" and added insult to injury with: "Bond is an imperialist and a misogynist who kills …

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I like both Bond and Bourne films. Though I feel that Matt Damon's comments are somewhat misguided if not completely daft.

The Bond films have been going for many years and they seem to follow their (very lrge and worldwide) audiences' appetites (otherwise they wouldn't be making them). Certaily Roger Moore's bond films are not the same as Daniel Craig's

Matt Damon might have well have said 60's bands are rubbish because they wrote music in the 60's for ther time and audience.

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Besides....

....where's Jack Ryan in all of this?

He'd probably be the guy chasing Bourne down for the 'feds whilst Bond was slotting both of their women (fnarr fnarr) behind their backs.

All for Queen & Country, mind!

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What cares what MAAATTT DAAMMMOON has to say?

Both Films have there plus points, Daniel Craigs bond is a great re-invention of the tired franchise, and I've just finished watching Ultimatum and I have to say it is by far the best Bourne film yet (and absolutely nothing to do with the book).

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Re: True, so true...

Who wants Emma Peel when you can have Pussy Galore?

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Hmmmm

To Will Leamon; the UK didn't think it ruled the world, it did, once.

Back on topic, I quite like the Bourne Identity, but it's a shame they had to simplify it for an American audience. The RC version was much better in that respect.

Bond is great, as long as we exclude "View to a kill" and "License to kill" (or whatever the title of the last Dalton one was).

But for a night out, it has to be John Steed.

Whatever happened to the man from U.N.C.L.E? Who thought of the name T.H.R.U.S.H for the bad guys (it's a female complaint for goodness sake)?

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Twat Damon!!!!

Nuff said. He was totally outdone by all of his supporting cast in the first movie - Clive Owen, Chris Cooper - always great in anything he does, Brian (Dr Lecter) Cox and the stunning Franka Potente - mmmm, I would!! and they killed her off!!

Apart from that, I think the proof is in the pudding in that all the Bond books are great, and that it took the movie franchise 20 or so outings to start getting a little tedious.... and the latest movie has totally bought the whole franchise back to life in a huge way; whereas the Bourne series is just a second rate imitation - and old Twatty Bollocks knows that - hence his comments. I have to say that after his girl takes the bullet in the head in the second one - I was ZZZZzzzzz'ed.

I'd definately have Eva Green any day of the week. Oooooh that accent in CR!!! Put her in a pair of johdpurs and thigh boots and she could come ride this pony all day long.

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Bourne and Bond...

Matt Damon needs to really think about his audience here. People just want to be entertained. Thats why they go and see movies. Bond and Bourne are different characters, yes. But you don't see Daniel Craig going around dissing Bourne. He has more respect for the art of acting and creation of a film, and certainly has made some better career choices than Matt Damon. In fact, he has positively praised the Bourne movies. I think Matt Damon has been rather unfair to the James Bond series as a whole.

Bond was born out of the 2nd World War (books) and the Cold War (movies). Bourne was created out of the Vietnam war, and the remnants of the Cold War...and both reinterpreted for now. Bond and Bourne are no more or less relevant than each other to today's political and cultural climate. Bond can think on his wits and skills just as much as Bourne can. Casino Royale is as much a testemant to that as Dr No, From Russia With Love or On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

And in reality, their skills are equal and matched. Neither have to rely on gadgets. And Damon was innacurate in his statement that Bourne does not use gadgets...GPS trackers, scopes, mobile phone hacking equipment...not gadgets...!!!???

Matt Damon needs to be a bit more polite. I am looking forward to The Bourne Ultimatum, but he needs to engage brain and be a bit more professional.

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Eye Test?!

Did Matt Damon or Paul Greengrass actually watch Casino Royale, or any Bond film for that matter? Or perhaps The Ipcress File, or maybe The Day of the Jackal......??????????

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Teresa Di Vicenso

Hellloooooooo

OHMSS...Bond is married and widowed within minutes...serial misoyginist indeed!

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Wow....

I wonder which PR guy wrote that little tirade for him?

I agree that Bond is a cock.

However, Bourne is worse.

Oh no! Who am I? Wahhhh!

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I'd prefer to hang out with the guy who participates in this conversation...

"Hi! I'm Plenty."

"I'm sure you are."

"Plenty O'toole."

"Named for your father, no doubt."

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As long as...

...Matt Damon doesen’t appear as Captain Kirk in the next Star Trek movie he can complain about Bond all night...

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mmm, Potente....

<QUOTE>

I always felt Potente was a girl's girl, anyway, so I am available if she wants to drop by. Any Bond girl she wants to bring along will be OK by me, too, although I am too much of a lady to name those I'd prefer...

</QUOTE>

Hear hear! Don't need any misogysauruses lumbering about. I'm-a name names, though:

Miss MoneyPenny: Oh, come *on*. Poor thing's got to be the most fustrated girl in the UK. There is a cure.

Whatever character it was Grace Jones played in that one movie: Total butch goddess. I wouldn't last 20 minutes but what a way to go ^.^

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Martini

"Bourne is a serial monogamist whose girlfriend is dead and he does nothing but think about her."

Sounds like a boring twat who needs to get over himself. Makes me glad I've not seen any of the Bourne films, I like films to be fun and entertaining.

As for the stag weekend... Where's my Martini?

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Hm...

I grew up watching the Bond movies, my dad read the books and watched the first movies as well, so Bond became something like one of those "I want to be like him when I grow up" role models. Of course, that is pre-Brosnan, which managed to ruin it all in his last two movies.

Then Bourne comes, the trilogy must be almost as old as I am but come from a world that is more contemporary to me. Truth is, I liked more the Bourne movies than the last Bond ones (except Casino Royale which was very good), but it could be because of this change of context. (It also helps that Jason Bourne seems to manage better as a rogue agent)

As for the girls: Julia Stiles is good, but I like Franka Potente even more! ;)

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Multiple James Bond

"so would Bond (by the Russkies/Chinese/North Koreans/etc/etc/etc) but who would have had the best life up until that point?"

I vaguely remember a sequence in the original Casino Royale spoof, where M goes to see a retired agent who asks her how the new "James Bond" is going - yep, if a 007 agent gets killed or retires then the new agent inherits the number, the name, the fake back-story, etc... (or at least, they did in the spoof). ^_^

I always thought it was an elegant way of explaining away the multiple actors.

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Ian, can I borrow

your tags?

Jason Bourne is a derivative copy of the Fleming character. Admittedly, the modern film versions of Bond have become mired in gadgets and FX, but Casino Royale has changed that. I was sceptical before I saw it, but having done so, I can only conclude that <teamamerica>Matt Damon</teamamerica> either didn't see it or is trotting out the studio line...

The Bourne films are entertaining and I've enjoyed them in a kind of anti-Bond way, but they're never going be the Bond franchise, no matter how silly the Bond thing was/is/gets.

Why can't I just enjoy them separately for what they are?

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re "Neither" By A Duncan

"Matt Helm!"

'kin Oath! Matt Helm rocked!

I actually like most of the Bond films and the Bourne movies - they are good entertainment with great action.

I think it's terribly unprofessional of Matt Damon to diss the Bond movies and pointless to diss the nature of the character - Bond is FICTIONAL, ffs! And has been portrayed in a variety of different ways by different actors,

As to the stag party - I think I have to agree with those who said John Steed... He'd make sure no one missed out on the action

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Doc

@WTF

....<QUOTE>jesus dancin h christ!!</UNQUOTE>

...finally a religious viewpoint.

Can't wait to see this get argued next LOL

Doc from Oz

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Tom
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There ARE others

Derek Flint, Matt Helm, Napeolean Solo (his sidekick was much beter!), even Felix Reiter. All refelct the era in which they were/are filmed. The demise of Q ( Desmond Llewelyn) who was in more bond films than any other person was a shame. As far as things go, the best Bond film is _From Russia With Love_. All of the Bourne films are good, but as usual for these type of films, there is a bit much action (usually because it is easy to translate into other languages). Casino Royale gets back to basics.

Take your pick.

Who knows, maybe Harry Potter after the seventh film will become an action hero. Could happen you know!

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Its all about the Bond

Bourne is a serial monogamist whose girlfriend is dead and he does nothing but think about her.

Man, what a loser!

Yeah, sure Jason Bourne is better than James Bond. Thats why there are so many Bourne parties.

I wasnt convinced about Pierce Brosnan but Bond as a concept is great :D

But neither can beat the man from U.N.C.L.E.!

Love that show, I've got all the movies on dvd... :D

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And Bourne is just a trilogy

nuff said

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