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An 18-year-old broke France's anti-terror laws by naming his home Wi-Fi network "Daesh 21" – after the medieval murder bastards ISIS. The unnamed teen was given a three-month jail sentence, suspended for now, after he was found guilty of essentially publicly condoning a terrorist act or group. According to daily newspaper The …

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  1. Adam 52 Silver badge

    This story seems to be repeated by a number of news sites, but none of the big French papers and the more reputable French papers are keen to point out that they aren't reporting first hand.

    But if true it would be interesting to know how the court drew any conclusion about support from just one noun.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Does it count as support if direct all traffic to a suitable "educational" target?

      Does it count as support if I make it open, allow anyone to connect, but redirect all web traffic to a goatse.cx (or wherever that wonderful picture resides today)?

      I used to have that set-up (with a different SSID). You needed a VPN to get out. Anyone without credentials on the VPN concentrator had a choice of goatse or goatse for their afternoon browsing session.

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      2. Bernard M. Orwell

        Re: Does it count as support if direct all traffic to a suitable "educational" target?

        "redirect all web traffic to a goatse.cx"

        Well, I guess its a strategy to be arrested for Making an Obscene image under the UK Extreme Pornography laws instead of being arrested as a terrorist sympathiser under s.44/45.

        Comedy is a hard career choice these days, it appears!

    2. streaky

      it would be interesting to know how the court drew any conclusion about support from just one noun

      It would be interesting to know if the French media, police or courts know that daesh is a word that IS find offensive and if they know that's the reason the name is used in western media - because it actively pisses them off.

      Using the word daesh in an IS controlled area will get you relieved of your tongue.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Next time...

    ..try "The terrorist organization that cannott be named".

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Next time...

      You mean The Knights Who Say Ni?

      1. Hans 1
        IT Angle

        Re: Next time...

        >You mean The Knights Who Say Ni?

        IT!

      2. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: Next time...

        Ecky ecky pkang ZOOOM boing...

      3. Daniel B.

        Re: Next time...

        You mean The Knights Who Say Ni?

        The BOFHen who say LART!

    2. JeffyPoooh
      Pint

      Re: Next time...

      At your office...

      Rename your Phone to "Free Pr0n".

      Switch on the 'Personal Hotspot' feature (with a password of course).

      Start Timer, and measure time until somebody cries out or laughs loudly.

    3. PNGuinn
      Mushroom

      Re: Next time...

      Or Robin Hood Airport <postcode>.

      For crying out loud - this is just giving the terrorist b******ds a propaganda victory.

      Maybe the internets will explode as a result. Someone should be banged up for aiding tererists.

      I sometimes wonder who the real enemies are. This was a somewhat mocking joke at the expense of a bunch of particularly evil killers. Getting upset at that kind of thing is what THEY excel at.

      Only icon suitable for that kind of stupidity.

      NB.

      1. READ THE KEY TO THE ICONS. SECURITY CLOWNS. IT'S HYPERBOLIC COMMENT - NOT A THREAT - YOU'RE NOT WORTH A SPENT MATCH.

      2. AS FAR AS WE KNOW ISIS DON'T HAVE A NUCLEAR DEVICE. FRANCE DOES. GET THE INFERENCE?

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Weird

    Daesh would hate him for calling it that.

    Incidentally there's a station in lincolnshire where you can pick up a wifi network called MI5 Surveillance.

    1. VinceH

      Re: Weird

      One of mine is called GCHQ_Monitoring_Hub_something (something being a random number/letter sequence).

      1. Bodge99

        Re: Weird

        I've got:-

        We_Can_Hear_You_Having_Sex

        and

        Police_Surveillance_Van_No-1

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Weird

          > Police_Surveillance_Van_No-1

          Familiarise yourself with Section 90 of the Police Act 1996 - then change it to GCHQ or something which won't get you a substantial fine for an offence which will continue to cause you hassle for years. Most coppers will just laugh, but there's one in every nick who'll pursue that.

        2. Jamie Jones Silver badge

          Re: Weird

          I used to run with that too! (Well, somethinng like SW Police Sureveilance van #6)

          (I currently use "The Aslyum")

          I wonder if we could be done for impersinating a police officer?

      2. Adam JC

        Re: Weird

        You should set it to GCHQ_Monitoring_Hub_117

        That way, it would suggest there are at the very least another 116 floating about somewhere.... ;-)

        1. David 132 Silver badge
          Boffin

          Re: Weird

          @Adam JC You should set it to GCHQ_Monitoring_Hub_117

          That way, it would suggest there are at the very least another 116

          Ahem...

          German Tank Problem

          1. Flip
            Thumb Up

            Re: Weird

            @David 123: Thank you for that link! Very interesting subject.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Weird

          116? They're called ANPR/aka. Tax Disc Evasion cameras, and there are about 117,000 of them. They clock you in, they clock you out, they are strategically placed at 'pinch points' - all towns will have them on roads in/out of said town. Welcome to Britains' Open Prison, its here, working now, with TM in as Prison Governor.

          1. d3vy

            Re: Weird

            "They're called ANPR/aka. Tax Disc Evasion cameras, and there are about 117,000 of them"

            Pay your f*cking VED.

    2. intlabs

      Re: Weird

      I've had theresa_may for my wide open SSID for the last couple of years. Do I need to set up a captive portal for the six regular visitors to my network just to emphasize that this should not be seen as endorsement?

      1. macjules

        Re: Weird

        Presumably nobody wants to go near it?

        1. Ole Juul

          Re: Weird

          One of mine says "VIRUS ALERT!". I was hoping that it would scare people away or get a giggle. However, I would not expect to be charged with false advertising or causing public panic. Presumably the young French chap had the same idea. I am certainly not spreading or promoting any virus.

    3. Ian Bush
      Black Helicopters

      Re: Weird

      Never knew where Mike Corley was, live and learn ...

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    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Weird

      "MI5 Surveillance".

      That's what I call mine! I like to hope it keeps the local terrorists occupied...

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Bollocks

    I need to stop calling my mobile hotspot NSA_5eyes

    1. Empty1

      Re: Bollocks

      And mine - "tv detector van"

      1. Jason Bloomberg Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: Bollocks

        And mine - "tv detector van"

        "iPlayer_Monitoring_Hub" might be more appropriate to get a rise out of someone these days.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    B team?

    Is the B team editing articles today? Or are we down to the C team?

    "the medieval murder bastards" - perhaps missing an "ing"?

    "he did note pose a terrorism" - too many "e"s?

    "he was not terrorist" - too few "a"s?

    You, sir, are a terrorist against the English language. Yes, I'm well aware there is a Tips and corrections link, but that would involve linking web browsing with email. A web form would be so much better!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: B team?

      Not if "murder bastard" is being treated as a noun. You could be a "murder king" or "murder facilitator" for instance, so I guess you can also be a "murder bastard".

    2. P. Lee

      Re: B team?

      or perhaps there is a missing hyphen between "medieval" and "murder."

    3. VinceH
      Coat

      Re: B team?

      ""he did note pose a terrorism" - too many "e"s?"

      But "he did note pos a terrorism" makes no sense!

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    medieval murder bastards

    I believe the correct term is, "dickless nutjobs".

    1. Hans Neeson-Bumpsadese Silver badge

      Re: medieval murder bastards

      ...would be an excellent name for a rock band

      1. BongoJoe

        Re: medieval murder bastards

        ...the name of which I won't be embroidering on the back of my denim jacket.

        1. Tom 7

          Re: medieval murder bastards

          I think it would go well on the back of the Red Hunting jackets tho!

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: dickless nutjobs

        > ...would be an excellent name for a nu rock band

        FTFY

        Medieval Murder Bastards is allright but surely it's already taken.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: medieval murder bastards

        > ...would be an excellent name for a rock band

        All female members?

      4. Ken Moorhouse Silver badge

        Re: medieval murder bastards

        ...would be an excellent name for a rock band

        ...or a Nick Cave album

      5. Scott 53

        Re: medieval murder bastards

        I'd go with Mediæval Murder Bastards myself, for added mediævality.

    2. Ken Hagan Gold badge

      Re: dickless nutjobs

      Sadly for many women who were unfortunate enough to have been living in the affected areas, these particular nutjobs are sufficiently non-dickless that their dick-related activities are on a par with their murderous ones. Kinda makes a mockery of any pretence they might have of being true to Islamic principles, but no surprise there.

      Perhaps sex-mad homocidal heretics would be a more accurate term. I dunno. It's a tough one.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: dickless nutjobs

        That's no way to talk about Saudi/Qatari/CIA financed Assad-ousting friends!

        I will have you done for hate speech!

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    FFS

    Should really set my phone sharing said to something else then.. its currently on "Daeshingthroughthesnow"

    1. Lapun Mankimasta

      Re: FFS - "Daeshingthroughthesnow"

      sorry, "snarlingasyougo" is already taken. Could try for "ïfsomeonegetsinyourway" or "shovethesoandso", and you'd just be in time for Christmas!!!

  8. Mark Simon

    Daesh it all …

    If I used “Far Queue” for an SSID, could I get into trouble for that?

    1. Magani
      Megaphone

      Re: Daesh it all …

      If I used “Far Queue” for an SSID,

      Much safer to call it 'Far Canal'.

    2. Wensleydale Cheese

      Re: Daesh it all …

      Fork handles

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