back to article Samsung ousts Apple as top US smartmobe biz

In figures for the three months to the end of May, Kantar Worldpanel says that Samsung took a bite out of Apple's US market share to overtake the fruity firm. This is as much down to continued strong sales of the Galaxy S5 as to the introduction of the Galaxy S6. Carolina Milanesi, Chief of Research & Head of US Business, told …

  1. Planetary Paul

    Market share vs profit share

    Market share isn't what Apple is going after, profit share is.

    1. Tapeador
      Meh

      Re: Market share vs profit share

      There's no such thing as profit share. There's profit margin. There's no such thing as 'profit available across the market' because it's a function of the difference between revenues vs costs within each single company, and neither are fixed.

      What there is probably a fixed quantity of is dufuses who are too easily parted with their money. In some contexts we'd call them victims of fraud. Apple calls them customers!

  2. ecarlseen

    So convenient...

    ... to be able to read Samsung's press releases here rather than having to navigate to their site. Some things an actual journalist would actually include:

    1) Whether these are units shipped or units sold. Samsung has a history of channel stuffing to pump their numbers, especially after the release of a new model.

    2) Since this is quarterly "news," a volume comparison to the previous calendar and year-ago quarters would be useful.

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      These are not the numbers you are looking for

      Kantar are the first to release numbers, but the least accurate.

      Wait a couple of months, and you can have the averages from multiple sources in handy tables comparing the previous quarter like this.

  3. W Donelson

    Samsung is doing so poorly in profit, it may abandon the mobile phone business altogether.

    Any halfway competent journalist would note that Xiaomi, not Apple, will push Samsung out of the market completely.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Xiaomi doesn't seem in any hurry to expand into the affluent markets where Samsung is making most of their mobile profits. Sounds like they're finally moving out of APAC into Brazil, but it may be years before they appear in the US or EU and start to really threaten Samsung.

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    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Samsung out of the market completely.

      Samsung makes quite a lot of other peoples mobile phones bits (especially Apple), it will be in mobile for some time yet.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        That's not Samsung's mobile division doing that, but their semiconductor division. They operate as essentially independent businesses, and report their profit separately.

        Anyway, the margins on chips are small because what Samsung sells are commodity products (DRAM, flash) and commodity services (chip fabrication) which would hardly compensate for the fat margins they make on Galaxy S and Note phones even if they were in the same division.

    4. gnasher729 Silver badge

      Samsung phone sales and profits have been dropping, but they are still making significant profits, much more than any sane company would give up voluntarily.

      And their semiconductor business is growing, in revenue and profits, and makes a lot more than the mobile division nowadays. Huge sales to Apple probably help. (I'd really love to know how much Samsung makes from an iPhone 6 vs. a Galaxy 6 sale).

  4. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge

    At the risk of repeating myself...

    At the beginning of June I had a few hours to kill before my flight out of Denver so I stopped off at a large Shopping Mall in the City.

    A Sprint Outlet was offering a Samsung S6 contract where Sprint really did give the phone away over two years.

    Is it little wonder that they shifted a shed load of them? If the phones are that good why can't they sell them?

    A more reliable stastistic would be sales by value rather than raw numbers. I'm sure the Fruity Firm would come out on top.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Is it just me, or do these fanbois come across as horrendously insecure ?

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  6. Philip Lewis

    It's all relative, except when it is not

    "Samsung is unusual in that their devices always have a longer life."

    For the life of me, I cannot deduce to what this statement refers .

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It's all relative, except when it is not

      I inferred it was alluding to lifespan as a viable product. "Shelf life" if you like. Seemed to fit with the context: The older S5 model still being the firm's best seller with the S6 coming second. Conversely the faithful fanboisie obviously clamour for the very latest shiny, shunning last years model like some sort of hideous infective turd. (Both Samsungs fell into that void between sales numbers of this year's breathtakingly wonderful jEsusphone and the unthinkably heinous abomination that is last year's jEsusphone)

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