back to article Oi. APPLE fanboi! You with the $10k and pocket on fire! Fancy a WATCH?

High-end models of Apple's Watch, which apparently has its official release tomorrow, could carry a price tag of at least $10,000. But the 18-carat gold wristputer won't have additional fancy features, according to the Financial Times. Instead, it will apparently come loaded with the same functionality as Cupertino's Apple …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hmm...$10,000...

    ...i'll stick with me Casio.

    1. chivo243 Silver badge
      Go

      Re: Hmm...$10,000...

      Me too, I'll stick to the casino. $10,000.00 wasted at either place is still lost. With the casino, you could get lucky...

      Oh, wait he said casio, he'll probably come out the winner.

      1. Peter2 Silver badge

        Re: Hmm...$10,000...

        I've been wearing a Casio watch since before the newest entrants to the workplace were born, and I am just idly wondering which Casio watch other people are wearing? (daily, as a working timepiece and not as a fashion statement)

        W-93H for me.

        1. Frank Bough

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          MRG 100T

        2. Richard Wharram

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          W 59

          My old F91-W is still going strong after 15 years without a battery change but the strap broke a couple of years ago :)

          The 59 is similar but I can take the kids swimming with it.

          1. VinceH

            Re: Hmm...$10,000...

            PRG 80L

        3. Not Terry Wogan

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          My 20-year-old Casio DBC-62 is already a smartwatch!

          I can even put my name and phone number in, in case I get so drunk I don't know who I am any more.

          1. DrXym

            Re: Hmm...$10,000...

            I had an awesome Casio watch at school - clock, date / time, alarm clock, stop watch, timer AND calculator. And a battery which lasted years. This was over 3 decades ago.

            Anyway, Casio have a G-shock watch which probably qualifies as the only smart watch to be worth a damn at this time. It has low power bluetooth and an app for phones that can make it vibrate and display a text message and other than that it's just a fancy LCD watch. So the battery lasts ages.

        4. Haku

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          For the longest time (nearly a decade) a TS-150 thermometer watch

          Then I got a TSR-100 infra-red thermo-scanner watch

          After that a CMD-40-1ZT infra-red remote control watch

          Now I got a smartphone for my time telling needs... but I still have those watches (and many more with built-in games)

        5. Gray

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          GW-500A ... the "Atomic" solar-powered recharging watch. Better than a chronometer; resets every night from WWV. Nice present from my son. Casio rules. I did celestial sun shots with this one; time is good to the second. Too bad my eyes aren't!

        6. Spiracle

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          F-91W

          It's still an experiment in progress but F-91Ws seem to be costing me approximately £11 per decade to run. Being the Bic Cristal/Honda Super Cub of watches I'd imagine that they'll still be rolling off productions lines 20 or 30 years hence in very similar form.

        7. Humpty McNumpty

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          GW3500B, aesthetics did play at least some part in the choice however. I do also have an F1 TAG but resent the absolute fortune required to change the battery and still have a waterproof watch at the end of it (£60) so it is flat.

        8. goldfish

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          I've got my trusty Casio F-91W, which is waterproof to 10 metres, so I'll drown before it will

        9. Neal Stephenson

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          ACL 200

          Seen me through shed loads of races, ahead of its time with, among numerous other things an asymmetric countdown timer for 50 pairs of independently adjustable laps, plus a backlight that comes on if you turn your wrist upwards.

        10. Glen 1

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          W-86

          Wanted a watch with a stopwatch for my running.

          The next model down had one, but didnt have a backlight.

        11. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          AX-210

      2. bpfh

        Re: Hmm...$10,000...

        DW-5600, replacing a classic 30 year old gshock with the big screw-down back.

    2. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: Hmm...$10,000...

      Do we need watches to tell the time? If I look around my desk, the time is on my monitor screen, my mobile phone and my desk phone. The office wall clock is superfluous. If I go out into my car there is a clock that is kept accurate by RDS signals over the air. In town there are enough time telling devices to cover the time where there isn't one in sight (a few minutes max). I'm generally aware of the approximate time anyway without seeing a clock. At home, the time is on my TV, kitchen cooker, hifi, DAB radio, alarm clocks.

      Why do I need a watch?

      Back in the old days, the only sources of time out of the home were the position of the celestial bodies (not reliable in UK because they often hide) or a clock on a church tower. People carried a small pocket watch on a chain in a pocket. Looking at the time required them to pull the watch out (using the handy chain) open the front casing, observe the time, close the case, replace it in pocket. Then, in the 20th Century, advances brought us the little clock that could be strapped on your wrist and observed by just turning a wrist towards the face. Even with busy hands - brilliant!

      The other step forward was the quartz watch with the eternal battery life -eliminating daily winding.

      Then, in the 21st Century **** me, people regressed back to using the old retrieve from pocket, open case, observe time etc etc, but this time without the handy chain to help them! And all this in a world where the correct time is everywhere and we don't need to look at the time! And daily winding (charging) is back too!

      So what are watches useful for? Well, these mobile phones can give us personalised information, that isn't a common and the same for all of us and ubiquitous. Our feed of information and communication that arrives through our phone. The smartwatch is the step forward from the pocket watch on a chain to a quickly observed wrist twitch that happened with the introduction of the wrist watch.

      But it isn't. Because most of them are impractical devices using inappropriate tech, that need a button press with the other hand. Only Pebble have got it anywhere near right so far.

      1. jai

        Re: Hmm...$10,000...

        <TL:DR>that need a button press with the other hand

        rumours are that the AppleWatch won't need a button press to view the time or latest alerts, you just need to move your arm so you can see the watch face

        1. werdsmith Silver badge

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          "rumours are that the AppleWatch won't need a button press to view the time or latest alerts, you just need to move your arm so you can see the watch face"

          Excellent. Keep still, save battery.

          It'll be perfect for when I'm asleep.

        2. elDog

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          I see that you said "so you can see the watch face."

          Hang on a sec, there we go: "so the watch can see your face."

        3. DiViDeD

          Re: Hmm...$10,000...

          Wow! Just turn your wrist to see the time. What WILL they think of next?

          Incidentally, rumour has it the Gear already does that. In binary time display if you so wish. As an aside, since I installed the binary face I've had to extend the display timeout to give myself enough time to work out the errrm time.

      2. VinceH

        Re: Hmm...$10,000...

        "Do we need watches to tell the time?"

        Some of us do, yes. Sometimes none of those convenient ways to tell the time are available - it depends on the person, what they do, and where they go.

      3. Gray

        Re: Hmm...$10,000...

        No ... you don't really need a watch any longer ... unless you find yourself needing to use a sextant and almanac to find your position several hundred miles from land. That's where my Casio GW-500A proves its worth. Resets itself every day, and bang-on accurate to the second.

        Or you could dispense with the timepiece and try it with your sundial ... !

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Meh

    5-hour Energy

    More than enough time to parade it before your friend's (hopefully) envious eyes.

    1. Ole Juul

      Re: 5-hour Energy

      I'd love to stay, but I have to go home and charge my watch.

    2. big_D Silver badge

      Re: 5-hour Energy

      10 year battery - more than enough time for it to be practical. I'll stick with my Casio.

      1. bpfh

        Re: 5-hour Energy

        Just before Christmas, I brought a health/sleep tracker. Battery lasts ~5 days. Cumbersome, not very ergonomic, kept running low when I did not have a charge cable. It's been sitting at the bottom of my sports bag for the last 2 months... I predict somthing very similar happening to the iwatch...

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Resale Value - not a lot

    Men wear watches for 2 reasons.

    1 : To tell the time ( This is the obvious one)..

    2 : Because it is the only piece if jewellery a man can wear whilst retaining some dignity.

    That piece of jewelery can climb to a very tidy sum of money. It can be kept in good condition and where necassary sold for quite a large part of it's initial value. We're talking Philip Patek, Vacheron Constantin etc not Casio here. ( Nothing wrong with Casio, I have one, it's just that Casio usually belongs in the option 1 group )

    Apples iWatch thing will initially cost a lot and then when the "usual Apple hype" wears of, it will be worth next to nothing. Kind of akin to pying for a solid golf neklace, only to learn that it is just shiny silver plated necklace from the pawn shop owner who just keeps laughing when you ask for anything above scrap value.

    Like most things Apple, there is no intrinsic value, just some hype and then all you are left with is a half eaten piece of fruit.... Before the Appletards get all butthurt, it's Ok not to love Apple, they are just another commercial entity that are very successfull at shafting their customers... Steve jobs didn't design good prducts, he designed good marketing...

    1. elDog

      Re: Resale Value - not a lot

      Pretty obvious that you didn't keep your original Apple-II for its resale value nowadays.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Resale Value - not a lot

        elDog, a fool and his money are easily parted.

      2. John Bailey

        Re: Resale Value - not a lot

        "Pretty obvious that you didn't keep your original Apple-II for its resale value nowadays."

        Pretty obvious you don't understand the difference between price and value.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Resale Value - not a lot

      And real men don't need jewellery.

      1. Richard Taylor 2

        Re: Resale Value - not a lot

        Or quiche

        1. Frank Bough

          Re: Resale Value - not a lot

          Give quiche a chance.

          1. Khaptain Silver badge

            Re: Resale Value - not a lot

            "Give quiche a chance."

            Was it John Lemon or Yolk Ohno that said that ?

            1. Sarah Balfour

              Re: Resale Value - not a lot

              Neither. Quiche Richards.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Resale Value - not a lot

                If they really sell this for $10K, you don't think people are going to buy it and be left to twist in the wind, do you? Seems pretty much dead certain anyone who buys one of those will get some sort of specialized service with it that will either trade it in or replace the insides for x number of years with every Watch upgrade. The guts will cost Apple less than $100, pretty simple to do.

                The only risk with buying the initial model is, what if the Watch flops and there are no future versions? Then you have to hope that someday the handful of gold Watches sold become a collector's item for the same sort of people who collect Edsels or Tuckers.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Resale Value - not a lot

      "Kind of akin to pying for a solid golf neklace, only to learn that it is just shiny silver plated necklace from the pawn shop owner who just keeps laughing when you ask for anything above scrap value."

      Your solid golf necklace will be worth more than scrap value, so long as it has an MOT.

    4. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Resale Value - not a lot

      So the only logical solution is to buy a fake Rolex/Omega from a market stall in China.

      You get the accuracy of any other quartz watch and not only do you get the same respect from anybody stupid enough to care about how much your watch costs, but you get to laugh at them behind their back.

      And if you get mugged for it - you have the last laugh.

    5. PNGuinn

      Solid golf neklace

      Whole in one?

      El Reg - I want a Pedantic Spelling Nazi Icon.

      1. frank ly
        Headmaster

        @PNGuinn Re: Solid golf neklace

        Hello

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: @PNGuinn Solid golf neklace

          I've heard of a pearl necklace. Assuming it's a typo, dare I ask what a solid gold necklace involves?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            pearl necklace

            Ah yes, the "pearl necklace" the ex wife's favorite piece of jewelery. Took ages before she caught on ZZ Top weren't talking about evening wear.

            (It really don't cost that much)

      2. Anonymous IV

        Re: Solid golf neklace

        > El Reg - I want a Pedantic Spelling Nazi Icon.

        Surely you mean Linguistic Purist icon?

      3. Rob Gr

        Re: Solid golf neklace

        Punctilious Spelling Nazi, shurely!

    6. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Resale Value - not a lot

      I wear mine because the crown can be pulled out, revealing several feet of diamond-encrusted piano wire which I can then use to garrotte my adversaries when the government send me into dangerous countries. Normally we send James.

      0010.

      1. Rob Gr

        Re: Resale Value - not a lot

        0010?

        When did HMSS start using binary?

    7. Bronek Kozicki

      Re: Resale Value - not a lot

      @ElReg, please nominate this "Men wear watches for 2 reasons ...." to comments of the week. Or failing that, give us the right to double upvote :)

  4. Naughtyhorse

    So at least that answers the question..

    What the well dressed uber-knob will be wearing this year

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